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| [#2388] Mahler's Sixth Lupu & Previn (LSO 1977)... A vivid performance!! It seems our next Classical fans meeting will be held in Shatin !! CKM pls check PM  |
trazom 正式會員203.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-11-15 13:09 | |
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| [#2389] Mahler's Sixth Season's Greetings  |
trazom 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-11-15 13:19 |
| [#2390] Mahler's Sixth Also preparing myself, I'm listening to this one. This Abbado's live recording was awarded Record of the Year by Gramophone in 2006.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.124 |
2007-11-15 13:44 |
| [#2391] Mahler sixth Some old post: Last night listened to Mahler's Symphony No.6 conducted by Bertini. My sixth will propound riddles the solution of which may be attempted only by a generation which has absorbed and truly digested my first five symphonies. (Mahler, in a letter to Richard Specht) Mahler symphony no.6 was depicting a hero who was struck down by his fate. Despite the fact that Mahler's music was very popular among classical music circle, his sixth symphony was still a enigma. The main question was why Mahler would composed such a `Tragic' symphony when he was in his most happy time of life? The symphony start with a march with a Fate motif, and I must say that Bertini keep thing going in the right pace in the very beginning, it is neither too fast like Boulez nor too slow like Barbirolli, Bertini manintain his drive and tension in the second movement Scherzo, everying sound so right. The third movement is very romantic and lyrical melody and it was especially heart-warming under the baton of Bertini. The four movement was a struggle between soul and suffering and the finally three hammer signified `three mighty blows of fate befallen by the hero, "the third of which fells him like a tree", Bertini leaded his team played these convincingly. Bertini's version make everything sound right, I have other version by Szell (uneven sonic) , Barbirolli (too sentimental) and Boulez (lack real passion), but I have to say that Bertini were most satisfying among four versions I have. I also found a painting by Klimt to illustrate Mahler symphony No 6.  |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.106 |
2007-11-15 18:57 |
| [#2392] Mahler sixth See you tonight during intermission. |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.66 |
2007-11-16 08:24 |
| [#2393] Mahler sixth DJ and CKM Morning! If I have an audition in advance of live concert, I might choose Bernstein's account by virtue of its neurotic ferocity and sensitivity to every slight change of atmosphere and pace, his earlier account in Columbia (1966) reveals his utmost personal reaction to these tragic pieces and thrilling finale. The coffin-lid closing in the finale was full of electricity and exxageration without unduly indulgence, sonic quality is superb without digital edge. In contrast, his later live account with VPO (1988) reflects his profound and egocentric vision to Mahler's score (he was joyful of being praised as the "embodiment" or "incarnation" of Mahler, althought he neither denied nor avered) , VPO responds to his subliminal message and death-haunted reading with outrageous bravura and immaculate spontaneity, yet the finale was enormously lasting over 30 minutes with dragging pace. Should I choose between 2 accounts, his earlier sixth is my indispensable choice. Certainly the dutch maestro Mengelberg who conducted Concertgebouw Orchestra Amsterdam was also a good choice if you are not detered by its utterly egoistic view, flexible treatment of pace but poor sonic quality. Four last songs of Richard Strauss was sung by many glorious sopranos such as Lisa della Casa, Gundula Janowitz, Dame Elizabeth Schwarzkopf in the past five decades, Schwarzkopf's account (EMI) has been widely revered most among music critic and music lovers, yet I prefer the recent rendition of Cheryl Studer, her lyrical, seamless legato yet dramatic voice is an ideal interpreter for this luscious piece, well-accompanied by Sinopoli and Dresden Staatkapelle, her delivery is suitably hushed and introspective in a perfectly natural manner. Enjoy tonight's concert! George  |
george1977 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.94 |
2007-11-16 09:48 |
| [#2394] Mahler sixth Last night, preparing myself emotionally for the `tragic', heartstopping Mahler's Sixth. Mahler have studied Bach's Counterpuntual and fugue music well before he write dwn his fifth, sixth and seventh symphony. To clear up my mind before the emotional roller coaster tonight, I listened to Bach's Goldberg variation. Background information: 藝術中最崇高的一刻－談巴赫的Goldberg Variations http://www.musicdata.org/md_new/pages/posts/19.-C3C0B3nA4A4B3CCB1rB0AAAABAA4A8E8A1D0BDCDA4DABBAEAABAgoldberg-variations21.php  |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.106 |
2007-11-16 12:26 |
| [#2395] Mahler sixth CKM, Hope you have a rewarding evening with Mahler 6. Unfortunately I cannot schedule my visit to be in Hong Kong. I like Schiff's intepretation of Bach Goldberg. Yes he is not Gould, but his plain, no non-sense approach suits me. |
chowhwk 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.139 |
2007-11-16 16:39 |
| [#2396] Mahler sixth Last night was a joyful night for myself, having dinner with DJ and Tony, seeing lots of familiar faces and R33 brothers (CKM ,sokps, Hoi Gor, 98, Trazom, Jeff) at the Mahler sixth live concert played by HKPO, though I reserve a lot of De Wart's "boiled-water like" treatment and reading, I have been brainwashed by Bernstein's egoistic and neurotic reading, Mahler sixth should be more hysterical and sensitive, fully agreed of what DJ said, "not involving!", though HKPO's performance is self-evidently outstanding and competent. Four last songs of Richard Strauss is well-played with Solie Isokoski's intensity and reflective voice, the violin solo played by John Harding in "Beim Schlafengehen" is especially captivating and luscious, much better than previous Korean concert master whom I dislike most. De Wart's reading and Isokoski's creamily voice fully capture the core theme of Four last songs that was a farewell of "serene confidence", HKPO gave their best effort to demonstrate a truly polished and beautiful playing without dissonance and dichotomy, a harmonious and caressing moment! Thanks to DJ's recommendation, the seat in left upper balcony (near first violin and double-bass sections)is great, you can effortlessly hear every note singing , devoid of edginess and up-front attack. George  |
george1977 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.61 |
2007-11-17 10:03 |
| [#2397] Schubert Arppegione Sonata Finally ordered it..... not yet listen to it..  |
hercules 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.232 |
2007-11-17 11:16 |
| [#2398] Domingo's IL Trovatore Gorgeous voice!  |
george1977 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.61 |
2007-11-17 12:29 |
| [#2399] Domingo's IL Trovatore Yes, Domingo's IL Trovatore is a great recording. For tenor, I would prefer Pavarotti over Domingo in general. I also like the singing of Horne in this recording under Decca. Eg, Track 10 Il Trovatore: Part Two: 'Stride la vampa!' - Marilyn Horne http://www.amazon.com/Verdi-Il-Trovatore-Peter-Knapp/dp/B0000041RB/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195277267&sr=1-2  |
erictang 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.184 |
2007-11-17 13:53 |
| [#2400] In the mood of Cheryl Studer Having enjoyed a wonderful four last songs of R. Strauss last night, I played this album of Cheryl Studer accompanied by Staatskpelle Dresden under the baton of Sinopoli whole morning , her lyrical, seamless legato yet dramatic voice is an ideal interpreter for this luscious piece, though not as dramatic and powerful as Jesse Norman, the mellifluous voice and its melancholic beauty linger on.... in my mind, the French horn in the second song:September provides us a perfect closing and the violin solo in Beim Schlafengehen is luscious and warm, what a caressing and romantic moment which reminds me how sweet when lovers stay together to listen this song (the little lover sitting next to Doctorjohn last night still hugged and got close in a tight manner even after the intermission :D), The closing "Im Abendrot" was sung with studer's heartfelt and lyrical voice, a peaceful yet melancholic farewell to "serene confidence" without unnecessary sigh in the dawn! Highly recommended to those who love romantic pieces or fond of arts of lieder. George  |
george1977 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.61 |
2007-11-17 14:31 |
| [#2401] Mahler's Sixth I attended Mahler's Sixth on Friday, and I am delighted to meet with so many Review33 members. I was most unfortunate to be late on that day and miss the first half of the concert, Strauss' Four last songs was my favorite pieces. Mahler's Sixth symphony was named `tragic', however it was written during the most happy time of his life. He get married at that time and his second daugthter was bron during the course of composition. The theme of the symphony however, was a hero who was struck down by his fate. De Waart's interpretation of the symphony was not tragical at all, on the contrary Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra was quite excited instead, was it due to the fact that De Waarts have signed a new contact with HKPO? The second movement was quite disappointing as it was not too affecionate, the fourth movement benefit more from De Waarts fast pace and the orchestral's brass section really brought the house down. Edo de Waart give us a objective reading of Mahler's Sixth symphony. Technically, Hong Kong Philharmonic have improved a lot, the brass section was more stable and powerful and have a burnish tone. Edo De Waarts was really a good orchestra builder and he have a world class orchestra under his baton, but I really hope that he could take his time and let the music unfold in a a more reflective, romantic, sentimental manner. I look forward to his Eighth and Ninth symphony. |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.106 |
2007-11-18 10:55 |
| [#2402] Mahler's Sixth Hi george1977 and chankaiming, Nice to meet you at the Mahler's Sixth on Friday evening. I really enjoy in reading your views and perceptions on classical musics.:-) |
Sokps 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-11-18 11:25 |
| [#2403] Mahler's Sixth Sokps, Nice to meet you to that day, you extensive knowledge on Hi Fi was well known on review33, and you persistent effort in organizing yumcha meeting on saturday have creat a platform that members of Review33 can meet and exchange our joy in our hobbies. I am sure that we will have more opportunity to meet in future, either in the yumcha gathering you organized or inm concert. |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.106 |
2007-11-18 11:43 |
| [#2404] Mahler's Sixth Sokps, Glad to meet you too! Welcome on board! I am a peanut of Hi-Fi, see whether I can join your Yumcha activity in the forthcoming weeks. I think you can inspire me a lot from both Hi-fi and music as well! Regards George |
george1977 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.3 |
2007-11-18 12:55 |
| [#2405] In the mood of Maria Callas My first CD for Maria Callas was her highly-acclaimed performance in Puccini's "Tosca" boxset (EMI 5628902), as a "opera-idiot" and "latecomer", I was captured of her radiant, thrillingly magnetic, inspired, lifelike, free and imaginative in one of her finest roles at the time of listening her "Vissi d'arte", with Victor de Sabata conducting and Gobbi as Scarpia. The conducting of de Sabata is sumptuously lyrical yet sharpy dramatic, although a mono production by Walter Legge in 1950's, the sonic quality is balanced with glorious voice and virtually stereo effect. Although Mr. Chu, owner of Pro-sound, has done his utmost to persuade me buying its new boxset for 20 minutes, as a cautiously rational spender, I only bought an introductory CD which encompasses lots of her luscious arias excerpt and showpieces instead of full boxsets (indeed a super budget bargain already 60CDs for 1200 quid!). Neither with libretto nor translation, Callas proves to me that she was at her peak and surpassed Tebaldi (her contemporary rival and my dad's all time favourite soprano)in every respects, the "Casta Diva" of Bellini's Norma in CD2 almost drove my tears out and made me heartbroken because of her unmistakable tone, distinctive timbre, immaculate top notes and her coloratura agility. It reminds me how great it was when I listened to this aria firstly at the time of watching Wong's Kar Wai's Film "2046", and my first audition at kh33's house. Callas once again won my heart when I listened to her solo part in "Bizet's Carmen, though a strong, vibrant and characterful delivery but lacking the utmost imaginative detail of her finest work, this is a rough-hewn performance by Callas standard. Still Leontyne Price is still the top choice because of her seductive and smoky-toned voice. After listening lots of Puccini's and Verdi's arias, I found that Callas could give extra dimension to the Puccinian little women by her superbly imagination and inspiration. Her vocal was also excellent in Verdi's works with toughness and dramatic determination in her singing,she gives an unsuspected depth of character and heroine feeling into every roles she played, whether in the coloratura or in the dramatic passages, Callas gave me an eloquent and impressive performance. Yet these studio recordings almost reveals her slight imperfections in her vocal production (a heavy beat in her early years; then great flapping wobbles in her late years) which severely undermine enjoyment of her towering artistry, but I was overwhelmingly conquered by her sentimentally heartfelt and profound interpretation! Would it be better if I can listen her live performance? I always wonder..... Sound quality of this new digital transfer is first-rate, devoid of pops but retention of certain tape hiss (which is great that the remaster engineer is not obsessive of noise-cleaning processing), highly recommended to all starter and opera freak! George  |
george1977 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.3 |
2007-11-18 14:21 |
| [#2406] In the mood of Schubert's Winterreise After Callas heartfelt rendition, I try this Schubert's Winterreise sung by Peter Pears and Benjamin Britten, a lifetime couple in both artistic and private life aspects (as if our gunangdong opera figures : 任白小姐), Pears is more than aided by Britten at the piano; despite his often reticent placement, it's the composer who welds every song together. Britten is able to create unique poetic dramas out of each text--it's a miracle that Schubert's simple vocabulary makes this possible. The two performers are uncannily seamless. They follow a shattering emotional arc for their "winter journey," projecting plaintive melancholy from the start, only to move deeper into the shadows until the eerie, soul-killing bleakness of the last three songs renders the cycle's full tragic impact. Britten again prove himself the perfect accompanist of Schubert's Lieder, though my favourite shortlist should not miss Sviatoslav Richter who accompanied Peter Schreier! Highly recommended!  |
george1977 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.3 |
2007-11-18 15:19 |
| [#2407] In the mood of Schubert's Winterreise George1977 and chankaiming, Well, before I came to know friends through the platform of Review 33, I was quite naive about HiFi and music. Only after meeting knowledgeable audiophiles through yumcha gatherings and home visits, I have been able to learn more about the reference standard in HiFi system and started to enjoy classical music. During the past few years, I treasured the time at yumcha through which I could meet and share with new/old friends the experience and joy in our hobbies. This is also the momentum that drives me to persist on organizing regular yumcha through open registration as long as I am available on Saturday. As a matter of fact, I am attending regular yumcha gathering on weekdays - Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday! If you have spare time on Saturday afternoon, please feel free to join our yumcha gathering at Central.:-) |
Sokps 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-11-18 19:46 |
