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| [#2796] Beethoven Violin Sonata Hi diziwong, where did you get your Poloarts Richter WTC? Much interested to know. I hope it's in one of HK's shops. |
trollope 正式會員202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-03 20:40 | |
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| [#2797] Beethoven Violin Sonata For someone who hasn't listen much to Mahler, which of his recordings are good to start? Please suggest recordings that have good sound but not overly expensive. |
ranger 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.27 |
2005-01-03 21:34 |
| [#2798] Beethoven Violin Sonata Hi ranger, you may well start with a disc on Mahler's slow movements. There is very nice CD sold in HMV ($45) entitled "Mahler - Adagios" (HMV Classics 5 73384 2). It contains slow movements from sym 4, 5, 6, & 9, with Tennstedt conducting the London Philharmonic Orch. |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-03 22:02 |
| [#2799] Mahler Trollope, thanks for your suggestion. |
ranger 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.27 |
2005-01-03 22:31 |
| [#2800] Haydn Quartet ocean, Can you pls post the cover of the CD "Mozart / Haydn Quartets by Hagan Quartatt"? Thanks! |
kcm 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.136 |
2005-01-03 22:41 |
| [#2801] Haydn Quartet I am sorry kcm I dont know how to post the photo. Let me divert you to the collection of Hagen Quarette so u can check it out by searching 'Hagen Quartett'. http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/home.htms |
ocean 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.25 |
2005-01-03 23:36 |
| [#2802] Haydn Quartet This one? Quartet is my favourite music type.... :)  |
kcm 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.136 |
2005-01-03 23:45 |
| [#2803] Haydn Quartet I also have Kempff Beethoven Piano Sonata LP set. Will listen to it later. Hi trollope, because of working late, I have only listen the first & second movements of "Hammerklavier". Beware below is only my peronal opinion and I'm no more than an amateur classical music fans. So please don't take it serious. When compare to Conor, Gilels has strong contrast between soft/loud and expressive. The second movement, much of the 'Scherzo' melody is based on groups for 4 notes (soft-loud-loud-soft; long-short-short-long). Maybe Conor is playing faster, so the last notes of each group is relatively long. Gilels' playing is slower and clear cut; as a whole, a stronger Scherzo feel. The tune changed at about 50 second onwards, Gilels' playing is better phrased and expressive. But Conor's left hand melodic line is a clearer. Conor's scale at 1'40 is not clear enough, maybe a bit too much pedal. But I like how he plays the groups of notes after the scale. Gilel's playing at 2'41 is forceful and energetic. Recording wise, the one of Conor is not very good and I don't know how this will discount the contrast between soft/loud and cresendo. |
erictang 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.115 |
2005-01-04 01:04 |
| [#2804] Haydn Quartet Some typo, revised as below: The second movement, much of the 'Scherzo' melody is based on groups of 4 notes (soft-loud-loud-soft; long-short-long-short). |
erictang 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.115 |
2005-01-04 01:11 |
| [#2805] Haydn Quartet Hi Ocean Hing, I got whole set of Horowitz RCA, Sony and DG records, but I seldom listen to Beethoven 5th cuz I don't like it much, but I agree that Horowitz's music is not only showing off his technique, good example are his recordings of Mozart in DG seasons. Wilhelm Kempff is a great musician, I once read a book about great Pianist, their comment on Kempff is "just listen to his music, don't challenge his technique". I think it's true, his interpertation and performance is so natural, without much personality. His recordings of Beethoven violin sonata with Menuhin is great as well. As for Mahler lovers, we are lucky that Edo De Waar (hope I spell it correct) will lead HK Phil to perform whole Mahler's Symphonies. But I don't have much records on those, one I got is Karajan conducts Mahler's 9, but it's such a long pieces that I still can't listen the whole patiently :p |
mutter 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.142 |
2005-01-04 10:17 |
| [#2806] Haydn Quartet Hello again Eric, let's dwell on a bit longer on "Hammerklavier". I have in my collection 23 different versions (some by the same pianists). Who do you think play the slowest 3rd movement? |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-04 11:18 |
| [#2807] Haydn Quartet Or, for that matter, the fastest? |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-04 11:28 |
| [#2808] Haydn Quartet 我的Poloarts CD 是在廣州買的(數年前了), 在香港相信可找尚書房訂. |
diziwong 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.234 |
2005-01-04 12:39 |
| [#2809] Haydn Quartet Hi Trollope, you must be a "Hammerklavier" fans. Can you list out the 23 editions in your collection? And which one you like most. |
erictang 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.113 |
2005-01-04 13:17 |
| [#2810] Haydn Quartet ranger, If you want to try Mahler Symphony with vocal/choral part, try starting with Mahler 1 and then 5 (or vice versa is still O.K.). If you're O.K. with vocal/choral part included, then you can try Mahler 2 first. EMI has a budgetary box-set by Klaus Tennstedt. It's just around $200 for 9 Mahler Symphonies - a very good bargain. Tennstedt's set is good, though there may be some other better performance for individual Mahler symphonies....  |
DL 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.39 |
2005-01-04 20:12 |
| [#2811] Haydn Quartet Hi all, Just finished listening to Paganini Violin Concerto No.1 played by Yehudi Menuhin. Many violinist stressed on virtuosity when playing Paganini, but Menuhin stressed on the musical aspect. Menuhin's version may not be the best or monumental, but is quite enjoyable for listening. Just some sharings.... |
DL 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.39 |
2005-01-04 20:19 |
| [#2812] Haydn Quartet ranger, Sorry, typo. Should be: "If you want to try Mahler Symphony WITHOUT vocal/choral part, try starting with Mahler 1 and then 5 (or vice versa is still O.K.)" |
DL 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.39 |
2005-01-04 20:28 |
| [#2813] Haydn Quartet Many thx diziwong. |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-04 20:46 |
| [#2814] Haydn Quartet Hi eric, here you are, my 23 "Hammerklavier": Artur Schnabel, 1935, Toshiba EMI SGR-7132 (2002) [18’02] Wilhelm Kempff, 1951, DG 447 966-2 (Dokumente, 1995) [15’21] Solomon, 1952, EMI (References, 1993) / Philips (Great Pianists, v.92, 1999) [22’20] Eduardo del Pueyo, 1957, Dante HPC-153 (1999) [14’55] Claudio Arrau, 1963, Philips (Beethoven 14-CD set, 1998) [20’25] Wilhelm Kempff, 1964, DG 429 306-2 (Complete Beethoven Piano Sonatas) [16’27] Anatoly Vedernikov, 1966, Denon COCQ-83652 (2003) [23’02] Daniel Barenboim, 1966, HMV HMVD 5 72752 2 (1998) [22’] Charles Rosen, 1968-1970, Sony SB2K 53531 (Essential Classics, 1994) [18’23] Rudolf Serkin, 1969-70, Sony (Columbia Legends) SM5K 87993 (2003) [16’23] Alfred Brendel, 27/2/1970, EMI (classic archive, DVD, 2003) [18’32] Glenn Gould, 1970, Sony SMK 52645 (The Glenn Gould Edition, 1993) [20’42] Sviatoslav Richter, 2/6/1975, Praga PR 254 022 (1997) [17’10] Sviatoslav Richter, 11/6/1975, BBC BBCL 4052-2 (2000) [17’46] Sviatoslav Richter, 18/6/1975, Stradivarius STR 33313 (1991) [14’41] Maurizio Pollini, 1976, DG 429 569-2 [17’09] Christoph Eschenbach, 10/1976, EMI (Gemini) 5 85499 2 (2003) [25’17] Annie Fischer, 1977-78, Hungaroton HCD 31629 (1997) [19’51] Vladimir Ashkenazy, 1980, Decca 452 176-2 (Double Decca, 1996) [19’19] Daniel Barenboim, 5/1982, DG 429 485-2 (3D Classics, 1984) [21’50] Emil Gilels, 1982, DG 453 221-2 (Complete Beethoven Piano Sonatas, 1996) [19’51] Louis Lortie, 1994, Chandos CHAN 9435 (1996) [17’20] Alfred Brendel, 1995, Philips (Great Pianists, v.13, 1999) [17’46] My three favorites: (1) Annie Fischer (2) Sviatoslav Richter (Stradivarius) (3) Daniel Barenboim (DG) |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-04 20:49 |
| [#2815] Haydn Quartet Hello again eric, playing time of "Adagio sostenuto. Appassionato e con molto sentimento" in sq. brackets. A missing item I would love to listen to: Richard Goode on the label "Nonesuch". I have his last three sonatas by Beethoven released in Japan (WPCS-21131). Very touching and glorious sound. |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.193 |
2005-01-04 20:56 |
