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| [#2850] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II 邊個邊個, 請 check PM. Thank you very much. |
TunaFish 正式會員210.xxx.xxx.156 |
2007-12-13 12:27 | |
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| [#2851] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II Last night listened to trumpet music, probably due to horn stucture of Tannoy, Trumpet perform especially well on my system, the music are all from classical or Baroque period, although the composer was not famous but the music they wrote was graceful and tasteful, never dissonance and ever enjoyable. I found one more lovely 3 minutes tunes: Gounod's Ave Maria, played on trumpet and organ, share with all brothers here in the meeting.  |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.99 |
2007-12-13 12:27 |
| [#2852] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II chankaiming 請 check PM. Thank you very much. |
TunaFish 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.156 |
2007-12-13 14:13 |
| [#2853] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II ＞＞ckm:due to horn stucture of Tannoy, Trumpet perform especially well on my system 係真唔係架？！ Bosendorfer生產既喇叭播鋼琴咪....:-DDDD |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-12-13 15:32 |
| [#2854] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II 邊個邊個, Once upon a time, I have think of convert the real piano of my sister into one which can play by itself, I am still looking for the the Yamaha machine which can palying piano CD on a real piano, like those Yamaha in the Hotel. |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.99 |
2007-12-13 16:07 |
| [#2855] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II Just back from SZ. I'm able to make it on Sunday! Since there're at least 3 cars, should anyone want to come to my place afterwards, you'd be more than welcome. Driving should take less than 30 minutes from Fo Tan. ------------------------ 古典迷飲茶吹水會II Date: 16 December 2007 ( Sunday ) Time: 1:30pm Location: 雅苑酒家, 火炭火車站銀禧閣商場 (table reserved under Mr Chan, 12 person estimated) Map:http://www.ckharcades.com/ck_chi/EAI/JCSC/jcsc.htm Topic: What are your favorite melody/movement (Please bring along a CD of your favorite tunes/melody/movement by your favorite perfromers to share with us on that day) Please sign up: 1.Chankaiming 2.邊個邊個 3.kh 4.George1977 (I hope I can make it finally!) 5.Sokps (welcome, please check pm ) 6.ck2005 (welcome, please check pm ) 7. chowhwk (welcome, please check pm ) 8. erictang 9.trazom 10. TunaFish (welcome, please check pm) 11. Doctorjohn 12. |
doctorjohn 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.236 |
2007-12-13 21:57 |
| [#2856] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II 邊個邊個 Don't understand what do U mean by 'Bosendorfer生產既喇叭播鋼琴咪....:-DDDD'. I am using Bosendorfer's AC7, playing piano music is 'AAAA' not 'DDDD'. Now listening to Carmignola's Vivaldi late violin concerto also sounds 'AAAA'.  |
myers 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.138 |
2007-12-13 22:11 |
| [#2857] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II Myers: You appear to be a Francophile! Verider Control B into Verdier 845 amp. Auidomeca. Am I right? With this kind of electronics, any speaker should sound good! :-) |
doctorjohn 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.236 |
2007-12-13 22:18 |
| [#2858] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II More precisely should be Europhile, with ART Q dampers, ART digital cable, interconnect and speaker cable from Italy, PHY from France, Fadel Art power chord from France, SSC platforms and pucks from Germany. The only N American product is an NBS power chord and RSA power conditioner from USA, Totem beak from quasi Europe Qubec. This system sounds particularly good in classical music, vocal is good but not as good as the JMR Offrandes, a bit demanding for the Verdier's 845. Have listened to the same speaker with full set of Nagra, Nagra has a stronger bass but less refine than the Verdiers and seems like Verdier's vocal is more upfront than Nagra. Next target might consider some German CDP such as Symphonic Line or Accustic Arts! |
myers 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.138 |
2007-12-13 22:29 |
| [#2859] Maisky I'm not a great fan of Maisky, but I do find him interesting sometimes. The Dvorak is a masterpiece, but for me more for what the orchestra does than the cello. Here the great conducting of Berstein can be heard even though the recording is not top-notch. As conducted here, I realize why Dvorak is grouped into the Wagnerian camp. Listen 4+ minutes into the middle movement and the shadow of Wagner is ceratinly there. Coupled with the Elgar, Schumann and Haydn, this set is a bargain at $69 in Pro Sound.  |
doctorjohn 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.236 |
2007-12-13 23:42 |
| [#2860] 醉人的旋律 My first encountered of Marcello Oboe Concerto In one of the summer while I was playing in my secondary school orchestra, our onductor/teacher arranged a 鬼佬 oboist to play the Marcello oboe concerto. We played it public at St John's Cathedral with rthk4 recorded then broadcast. Wow!! We are all nervous. I miss the broadcast program, but my classmate taped (with TDK D60 ??) and replayed it via a portable mono cassette player, typical of the 80’s. Under that single speaker, the orchestra, with only 2 cellos, sounded like a full orchestra ... and the overall effect is live and ambiance. I recall immediately what our conductor said before: "Don't panic, they can make you sound magnificent". I'm not sure how my classmate taped it, via line-outline-in or speaker air microphone or other domestic means… Just wonder if he or the rthk engineer transformed our playing to sound "professional", at least, to our ears at that moment in time. From that onwards, I believe recording engineers can do whatever they like/can to make music (more) pleasant. |
erictang 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.235 |
2007-12-13 23:44 |
| [#2861] 醉人的旋律 Hello 邊個邊個: I’ll bring a LP and a CD with Marcello Oboe Concerto. The CD is under Naxos with Music Notes by my respectable conductor/teacher Keith Anderson. I also like Sonata in a minor for oboe solo by CPE Bach in this CD. http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.550556  |
erictang 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.235 |
2007-12-13 23:45 |
| [#2862] 醉人的旋律 Hello George, About one of your favorite "Chopin Prelude op28 No.15 "Raindrop" Raindrop are those repeated "a flat" played by the left hand. These raindrops make me think of 夜半雨點打落冷氣機頂  |
erictang 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.235 |
2007-12-14 00:21 |
| [#2863] 醉人的旋律 I like the second part of this piece. To me, it sounds like "storm" after "raindrop".  |
erictang 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.235 |
2007-12-14 00:23 |
| [#2864] Furt's B9 - VPO, 3 Feb 1952 - Tahra (2003) Cpsjj, I learn from your message of 07-11-08 22:15 that you don't have Furtangler's 1952 B9 and that you seem to want one. You will find it available at HK Records in Pacific Place ($145). I saw two pieces there yesterday. Good morning.  |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.133 |
2007-12-14 08:43 |
| [#2865] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II 古典迷飲茶吹水會II Date: 16 December 2007 ( Sunday ) Time: 1:30pm Location: 雅苑酒家, 火炭火車站銀禧閣商場 (table reserved under Mr Chan, 12 person estimated) Map:http://www.ckharcades.com/ck_chi/EAI/JCSC/jcsc.htm Topic: What are your favorite melody/movement (Please bring along a CD of your favorite tunes/melody/movement by your favorite perfromers to share with us on that day) Please sign up: 1.Chankaiming 2.邊個邊個 3.kh 4.George1977 (I hope I can make it finally!) 5.Sokps (welcome, please check pm ) 6.ck2005 (welcome, please check pm ) 7. chowhwk (welcome, please check pm ) 8. erictang 9.trazom 10. TunaFish (welcome, please check pm) 11. Doctorjohn 12. |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.225 |
2007-12-14 08:55 |
| [#2866] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II 早晨... myers兄： 唔好誤會，我係講笑ckm'以形補形'姐； 絕非話borsendorfer喇叭係D級...@_@ 話時話，咁宎蝙琴係未真係特別勁？ |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-12-14 09:19 |
| [#2867] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II Doctorjohn, If you have listened to Dvorak's complete symphony, you will noticed that Wagner have great influence on Dvorak, his symphony no.3 sound like an overtune by Wagner. I would not, however, catorgorize him as one of the Wagner's camp, like Liszt, Bruckner or Mahler. Having wrote so many wonderful Strin Quartet, symphony (in classical four movement style), Trio, Quintet, 3 concertos, Dvorak was a master himself already, if I have to classify him, I would say he was one of the giant in `Nationalism' along with Grieg (Norway), Sibelius(Finland), Elgar (England), Brahms (Hungary), Chopin (Poland), Tchaikovsky (Russia), Verdi (Italy), Albeniz (Spain), Franck (France). |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.225 |
2007-12-14 09:31 |
| [#2868] 古典迷飲茶吹水會II 昨晚又聽bruckner， solti的reading坦率直接，流暢有力。 cso的銅管絕對是頂級中的頂級， decca錄音是一貫的皇者風範，示範級。  |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-12-14 09:42 |
| [#2869] On Dvroak's cello concerto chankaiming: Oh, I understand that. It's indeed a fascinating topic that I'd like to elaborate on more. In fact, Dvorak was/is "grouped" into the Brahmsian camp, in opposition to Wagner. He was tremendously helped by the generous Brahms, who knew a great composer when he heard one. This shows how silly these camps were in what they made into an ideological conflict between two great composers. What's fascinating is that the cello concerto is a late work, yet it still reminds me of Wagner in this performance. Sometimes we all of a sudden truly comprehend something that we have only read about, taking the cognitive experience to another level. Sort of like a revelation or at least an enlightenment. It's all in how Berstein conducted the piece. In the finale of the first movement, the brass playing was vehement and truly virile, Wagnerian that is. The revelation is ~4+ minutes into the slow movement, when the strings uttered a pasionate (in the hands of Berstein, positively soaring) phrase in response to the cello. It seems to me this theme is based upon the first part of the cello theme, as stated in the opening. However, the character is completely different, and this morning I played it again and, lo and behold, is it not a theme from Tannhauser ??? I am not a musicologist, nor score-reader. I'd be more than happy if someone can enlighten me. wikipedia said about this movement: "...the lengthy Adagio, a lyrical movement which is both pastorale and troubled in character..." In this version, there's more trouble than the pastorale! Here are some interesting bits from wikipedia: "...Wihan, among others, had asked for a cello concerto for quite some time, but DvoYák always refused, stating that the cello was a fine orchestral instrument but totally insufficient for a solo concerto. According to Josef Michl, DvoYák was fond of the middle register, but complained about a nasal high register and a mumbling bass. In a letter to a friend, DvoYák wrote that he himself was probably most surprised by his decision to write a cello concerto..." DvoYák's friend and mentor Johannes Brahms praised the concerto: "Why on earth didn't I know that one could write a cello concerto like this? If I had only known, I would have written one long ago!"[citation needed] Brahms never wrote a cello concerto..." Listening to Dvorak and reading this makes me think about Brahms' use of the classical orchestra. Did Brahms really believe only in the classical orchestra or did he refuse to add more instruments just because he had to offer a different aesthetics to Wagner? One of the reason I wonder about this is the incredible Brahms 4th symphony, one of my favorites. I have always had one quibble about this symphony. That is, the ending is not blazing enough, due to the writing as well as the limited number of brass in the orchestra. No matter in concert or on records, I've always found it a little anti-climatic after all that has gone before. Just a personal feeling. |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.21 |
2007-12-14 10:23 |
