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[#2930] What are you listening to? (classical music chowhwk, Your presence is a great honor to us, hope you enjoy our meeting. Due to time pressure, probably we cannot finish the whole symphony or even a movement, however meeting with great friends like you is pleasure for me already. If you manage to come to Hong Kong again next time, please call me before hand or leave me a message, we can always organize interesting meeting for you, or we can go to concert together. See you soon.		chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.225	2007-12-17 08:58

[#2931] What are you listening to? (classical music
Kh33,

Thank you for your hospitality, you system was really great and live like, I was especially impressed by your subwoofer, it really enhanced the enjoyment of music with such a low but powerful bass.

It is really a pity that you don't listen to CD or SACD, although the sound quality may fall short, but the convience of the new software can outweight its drawback.

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 09:23

[#2932] What are you listening to? (classical music
早晨...

很高興見到各位老友，愉快的聚會通常都很短暫。
期望下次可以安排午茶晚飯直落古典吹水會。
再要多謝ckm熱心安排，kh的慷慨招待。

邊個邊個

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158.xxx.xxx.114

2007-12-17 09:27

[#2933] What are you listening to? (classical music
All other classical fans,

Thank you for your presence and all you presence is a great honor to this meeting, although there may be controversy on the best medium, best music, mest melody etc, we all united in harmony when music was played.

I really hope that we can have meeting in a few months time, if you have any ne idea on what program or topic next time, please don't hesitate to drop me a message.

Let me list out the music/movement we have played yesterday for reference, all are LP from Kh33:

Marcello's Oboe concerto ( Eric please confirm perfomer detail ) ( chosen by Erictang )

Beethoven's Violin sonata NO 5 `spring'
Played by David Oistrakh/ Oborin (chosen by Chowhwk)

Bruckner symphony No.6
Philharmonia/ Klemperer (Chosen by 邊個邊個)

Carmen, ( Act I )
Maria Callas/Petri ( chosen by trazom)

Albinoni's Adagio
Karajan/ Berlin philharmonic (Chosen by chowhwk)

Bruckner Symphony No.4 Second movement
Bohm/ Veinna Philharmonic ( chosen by George1977)

Bruckner Symphony No.4 3rd movement
Bohm/Vienna philharmonic ( chosen by Doctorjohn)

Tchaikovsky symphony No.6 3rd movement
Friscay/(please conform orchestra detail) (chosen by Tunafish)

Bellini: Norma - Casa Diva
Maria Callas/ Serfina ( 1960 ) ( Chosen by Kh33)

Mozart: Magic Flute- Queen of the Night
Lucia Popp/ Klemperer/ Philharmonia ( chosen by Kh33)

Mozart violin sonata
Goldberg/ Lupu ( chosen by Kh33/ George 1977)

Falla: three cornered hat
De los angeles/ Please confirm conductor( chosen by Feikeung)

Gounod: Ave Maria
Grumiaux ( violin) (chosen by chankaiming)

Schubert: String Quintet in C
Weller Quartet ( chosen by chankaiming)

Please remind me if anyone was missed out.

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 09:53

[#2934] What are you listening to? (classical music
Sorry one more:

Beethoven symphony No.7
Carlos Kleiber/ Vienna Philharmonic ( chosen by George1977)

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 09:55

[#2935] What are you listening to? (classical music
CKM,

It is a great afternoon with great music and great company. A great selection of music with a lot of diversity plus KH33's wonderful system. We were able to capture the music at its best.

Time did fly by and am sure we all wish to have more time. To all the fans, do let me know if anyone of you happens to visit Beijing.
The sound of my system may not be as good but the passion for music is the same.

chowhwk

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61.xxx.xxx.214

2007-12-17 11:02

[#2936] What are you listening to? (classical music
Thanks CKM for arranging such a wonderful gathering with 13 buddies at the yumcha. Sorry that my CD transport was out of order and you guys had to tolerate the LP sound. Hope every one enjoyed the music.

CKM,
I have to recheck again to fill in the missing information.

kh33

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219.xxx.xxx.224

2007-12-17 11:33

[#2937] What are you listening to? (classical music
CKM,

Tchaikovsky NO 6 played by Ferenc Frisay/Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra.
Three Cornered hat by Los Angeles/De Burgos/Philharmonia Orchestra.

kh33

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219.xxx.xxx.224

2007-12-17 11:39

[#2938] What are you listening to? (classical music
kh：

"忍受"完你套架生後我決定呢個禮拜都要聽耳筒清洗記憶，
如果唔係容乜易大出血就橙喇.....:-PPPP

邊個邊個

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158.xxx.xxx.114

2007-12-17 11:47

[#2939] What are you listening to? (classical music
Let me list out the music/movement we have played yesterday for reference, all are LP from Kh33:

Marcello's Oboe concerto ( Eric please confirm perfomer detail ) ( chosen by Erictang )

Beethoven's Violin sonata NO 5 `spring'
Played by David Oistrakh/ Oborin (chosen by Chowhwk)

Bruckner symphony No.6
Philharmonia/ Klemperer (Chosen by 邊個邊個)

Carmen, ( Act I )
Maria Callas/Petri ( chosen by trazom)

Albinoni's Adagio
Karajan/ Berlin philharmonic (Chosen by chowhwk)

Bruckner Symphony No.4 Second movement
Bohm/ Veinna Philharmonic ( chosen by George1977)

Bruckner Symphony No.4 3rd movement
Bohm/Vienna philharmonic ( chosen by Doctorjohn)

Tchaikovsky symphony No.6 3rd movement
Ferenc Frisay/Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra.
(chosen by Tunafish)

Beethoven symphony No.7
Carlos Kleiber/ Vienna Philharmonic ( chosen by George1977)

Bellini: Norma - Casa Diva
Maria Callas/ Serfina ( 1960 ) ( Chosen by Kh33)

Mozart: Magic Flute- Queen of the Night
Lucia Popp/ Klemperer/ Philharmonia ( chosen by Kh33)

Mozart violin sonata
Goldberg/ Lupu ( chosen by Kh33/ George 1977)

Falla: three cornered hat
Los Angeles/De Burgos/Philharmonia Orchestra( chosen by Feikeung)

Gounod: Ave Maria
Grumiaux ( violin) (chosen by chankaiming)

Schubert: String Quintet in C
Weller Quartet ( chosen by chankaiming)

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 11:50

[#2940] What are you listening to? (classical music
Yesterday this. My sons dance while we're listening...

pumbaa

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219.xxx.xxx.186

2007-12-17 13:32

[#2941] What are you listening to? (classical music
Pumbaa

Reiner's "Vienna" was and is still my ongoing favourite album in my household playlist, since its first reissue by RCA/BMG in the name of "Living Stereo" tag in 1995, I bought at least 3 versions subsequently the Gold CD (1997), SACD (2003) and XRCD24 (2006).

Although Fritz Reiner was a hungarian-born conductor, I really suspect this "iron-man" learnt a lot from viennese charm and Austro-Hungarian empire culture in 19th century, the tempo is generally brisk and crispy, devoid of sluggish pace or clumsy treatment, when you hear tracks of the blue danube, the Emperor Waltz, Viennese Blood, an Invitation To Dance (the cello solo of Janos Starker in the beginning was beautifully and lyrically played) and Rosenklavier Suite (rearranged by Fritz Reiner himself!), you must feel fascinating how much viennese charm Reiner has conveyed to a native american orchestra with fury, precision and waltz-charm , Reiner deserves being called as one of the few greatest conductors among conductor profession! Carlos Kleiber is however beguilingly akin to Fritz Reiner if you seriously compare Reiner's rendition with Kleiber's charming accounts in New Years Concerts' during (1988) & (1992), viennese charm could be heard in every piece and every note! Both Reiner and Kleiber preferred to adopt a neurotic treatment with lots of rubato and continuously varied tempo, no wonder your kid could dance side-by-side !

For the sound quality, I humbly opine that SACD does sound better in terms of dynamic, more liquid treble, better bass extension and richer sonority with more details and noise accompany , however XRCD sounds a bit over-produced and grainy by virtue of its undue emphasis on mid-treble spectrum, yet the senses of soundstage and presence are the strongest among three versions!

George

george1977

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203.xxx.xxx.94

2007-12-17 15:59

[#2942] What are you listening to? (classical music
Thanks George1977.

You're always my mentor of classical music.

pumbaa

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219.xxx.xxx.186

2007-12-17 16:12

[#2943] What are you listening to? (classical music
pumbaa

Thanks for your compliment!

Please please dun say so, a lot of mentors around, members like Trollope,Doctorjohn, CKM, Eric, 邊個邊個 and kh33 are qualified to be your mentor. I am just a usual music freak and information provider! =)

George

george1977

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203.xxx.xxx.94

2007-12-17 16:31

[#2944] What are you listening to? (classical music
The following recording marks a coda and even a relationship breakdown between Rubinstein and Fritz Reiner!

We Classical lover should have known that the paganini variations of Rachmaninov is still a physical and technically-demanding piece which very few pianists like to challenge unless and until they are well-equiped with supreme fingerwork and profound understanding of this virtuoso piece.

This breakdown was out of a remark of Fritz Reiner, a hungarian-born conductor, who showed his contempt of thoughtless and mediocre music partner. The remark was said in an occasion which Rubinstein repeatedly had multiple retakes at the time of recroding session:

Reiner said " How long would you like all gentlemen here to stand with your mistake and to wait for your last take?"

Reiner said in a manner of contempt in front of all CSO members.

You can wonder how furious Rubinstein was in the last take recording, the resultant playing was full of fury, sentiment and fire, worser still, Rubinstein swore subsequently that he will longer collaborate with Friz Reiner for recording other works, no matter how sincere John Prefier, the producer of living stereo series, was to seek both maestros having further cooperation in other repertoire but fruitless!

a side-road gossip but true!

But it's true that both were parted!

George

george1977

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203.xxx.xxx.94

2007-12-17 16:49

[#2945] What are you listening to? (classical music
George 1977,

Have not heard of Reiner's waltz, but for Kleiber's New years concert, I always consider it as a essential for all classical music fans. Watching Kleiber dance like conducting style is a great entertainment already, no wonder Vienna philharmonic play with their heart and soul for Kleiber.

Sample on you tube:
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=9zlE5ipwna8

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 17:10

[#2946] What are you listening to? (classical music
Sorry wrong link, below was the right one:

J. Strauss II Die Fledermaus Overture Carlos Kleiber

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=4YBhKx1bkEM

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 17:11

[#2947] What are you listening to? (classical music
J. Strauss II Tritsch-Tratsch Polka Carlos Kleiber

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs3BF0b7Mtw&feature=related

chankaiming

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203.xxx.xxx.225

2007-12-17 17:25

[#2948] What are you listening to? (classical music
Sorry members

Typo:
Stand "with" should be stand "for"

CKM

Thank for your link sharing, Carlos Kleiber is my all-time strauss conductor choice, excerpt the late Herbert von Karajan ! Very few conductors can earn the unanimous respect and obedience from the arrogant VPO members, Leonard Bernstein and Karl Bohm are another exception of exception and some prestigious conductors were "insulted" or "bullied" by VPO in different occasions such as Mazzel, Muti, Ozawa and Levine....

George

george1977

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203.xxx.xxx.94

2007-12-17 17:27

[#2949] What are you listening to? (classical music
George,
Talking about Beethoven Symphony No.7, have you heard this version?