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| [#3670] Brahms 4th Finale Sorry typo: Rudolf Kempe  |
george1977 正式會員58.xxx.xxx.211 |
2008-02-23 15:39 | |
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| [#3671] Brahms's Fourth George1977, I wonder how you would rate Walter's 1951 versions with the New York Philharmonic if you happen to have them (Urania, 2001 and Sony, 2004). |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.133 |
2008-02-24 00:18 |
| [#3672] Brahms's Fourth Trollope, Sorry that I could not comment since I never owned his mono account with NYPO in 1951-53. Eager to listen! BTW, my favourite mono accounts for Brahms Symphony Cycles also include Eugene Jochum / BPO (DGG), Arturo Toscanini /BBC SO (Testament) and Furtwangler (Music & Arts). George  |
george1977 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.211 |
2008-02-24 00:34 |
| [#3673] Brahms's Fourth As a general rule, Walter's NYPO performances are leaner and cleaner in their soundworld. The "special warmth" of his Indian summer, in no small part attributable to the LA musicians, is not usually found. The readings though are excellent and preferred by many. |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.233 |
2008-02-24 09:51 |
| [#3674] Furtwangler The Furtwangler CD in this set contains postwar Lugano performances in quite reasonable sound. The perfromance of Mozart's piano concerto #20 by Yvonne Lefebure is vital, even virile. The BPO pastorale is excellent. There's not smothering warmth nor cheap cartoonish tone-painting. "Scenes by the Brook" feels like gentle waves rippling, successive phrases lightly covering the track of what had gone before. The "storm" is not the rattling thing it sometimes is portrayed as. Excellent.  |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.233 |
2008-02-24 11:17 |
| [#3675] Harnoncourt's Brahms I am delighted to see that there is a hot discussion of Brahms symphony No.4 on this thread. Last night, I listened to Brahms symphony by Harnoncourt and read the little booklet that come with CD which feature an interview with Harnoncourt on Brahms. Like Beethoven before him, Brahms's symphony come in pair, if you listen to symphony No.3 and 4 together, you will noticed the decending chord of the final movement of symphony No.3 is like a mirror image of the accending chords od symphony No.4. Another point Harnoncourt raised is that Brahms draw his inspiration from french baroque music, the final movement passacaglia is actually a dance rthythum from Baroque period. Harnoncourt reading was light and energetic, stress on the dancing rthythum rather than thick majestic sound that Klemperer and Furtwangler favored, with his insightful notes, I can understand Brahms symphony from another angle.  |
chankaiming 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.69 |
2008-02-24 12:38 |
| [#3676] Schubert box Another MEMBRAN box is a bargain at $98. I don't see any more at HMV though... Look at the content (some mistakes)!!! CD 1 (listened to it this morning. Karajan is a classical 9th but it's Mengelberg's dark and dramatic "unfinished " that stands out) Symphony No. 9 in C major, D 944 Wiener Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan, recorded in: 1946 Symphony No. 8 in B minor, D 759 “Unfinished” Concertgebouw Orchestra, Willem Mengelberg, recorded in: 1939 CD 2 Symphony No. 5 in B flat major, D 485 The London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Thomas Beecham, recorded in: 1938 Symphony No. 6 in C major, D 589 The London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Thomas Beecham, recorded in: 1944 CD 3 Sonata for Piano in D major, D 850 Artur Schnabel (piano), recorded in: 1939 Sonata for Piano in A major, D 959 Artur Schnabel (piano), recorded in: 1937 CD 4 Sonata for Piano in B flat major, D 960 Artur Schnabel (piano), recorded in: 1939 Moments musicaux for Piano, D 780 Artur Schnabel (piano), recorded in: 1937 CD 5 Four Impromptus for Piano, D 899 Four Impromptus for Piano, D 935 Edwin Fischer (piano), recorded in: 1938 CD 6 Fantasy for Piano in C major, D 760 “Wanderer” Clifford Curzon (piano), recorded in: 1949 Trio for Piano, Violin and Violoncello in B flat major, D 898 Arthur Rubinstein (piano), Jascha Heifetz (violin), Emanuel Feuermann (violoncello), recorded in: 1941 CD 7 String Quartet in D minor, D 810 “Death and the Maiden” Busch Quartett: Adolf Busch, Gösta Andreasson (violins), Karl Doktor (viola), Hermann Busch (violoncello), recorded in: 1936 String Quartet in B flat major, D 112 Busch Quartett: Adolf Busch, Gösta Andreasson (violins), Karl Doktor (viola), Hermann Busch (violoncello), recorded in: 1938 CD 8 Trio for Piano, Violin and Violoncello in E flat major, D 929 Lieff Oborin (piano), David Oistrach (violin), Sviatoslav Knuchevitzky (violoncello), recorded in: 1947 Rondo for Violin and String Orchestra in A major, D 438 Henri Temianka (violin), Temianka Chamber Orchestra, recorded in: 1937 CD 9 String Quartet in E flat major, D 87 Quator Calvet: Joseph Calvet, Daniel Guilevitch (violins), Léon Pascal (viola), Paul Mas (violoncello), recorded in: 1937 String Quartet in A minor, D 804 Kolisch Quartett: Rudolf Kolisch, Felix Khuner (violins), Eugene Lehner (viola), Benar Heifetz (violoncello), recorded in: 1934 String Quartet in C minor, D 703 “Quartettsatz” Budapester Streichquartett: Joseph Roisman, Alexander Schneider (violins), Istvan Ipolyi (viola), Mischa Schneider (violoncello), recorded in: 1937 CD 10 Sonata for Violin and Piano in A major, D 574 Fritz Kreisler (violin), Sergej Rachmaninov (piano), recorded in: 1928 Piano Quintet in A major, D 667 “Trout” Artur Schnabel (piano), Quator Pro Arte: Alphonse Onnou (violin) Germain Prévost (viola), Robert Maas (violoncello), Claude Hobday (double bass), recorded in: 1935  |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.233 |
2008-02-24 13:33 |
| [#3677] Brahms Sym#4 Brahms 停不了. 近傳 NY Phil 再次肩上破冰外交重任會出訪北韓. 數十載前她也曾破冰外交於蘇俄. 此 Bernstein 於紐約愛樂錄於 1963 年. 封套標示各樂章速度為 : 1st : 12:35 2nd : 11:50 3rd : 5.50 4th : 10:40 感覺 Berstein 演的整體比較帶張力, 表現傾向鮮烈, 第一樂章由相當陽光感覺展開, 到發展至較為沉鬱而富張力之下結束. 第二章較為沉重緩慢至尾段漸趨平和完結. 第三章很快且極為歡欣跳脫. 終章與第一章呼應, 色彩變化豐富並保持張力, 頗能抓緊注意力. 錄音不算很出色, 左右聲道分隔有點誇張. |
lym 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.197 |
2008-02-24 14:34 |
[#3678] Brahms Sym#4  |
lym 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.197 |
2008-02-24 14:34 |
| [#3679] Brahms Sym#4 音樂無分國界! MADE TO MEASURE 系列之一.  |
ck2005 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.16 |
2008-02-24 15:11 |
| [#3680] Brahms Sym#4 又同沙俄有關?  |
ck2005 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.16 |
2008-02-24 15:12 |
| [#3681] Chopin by Pollin found this in Mainland China. Gentle and smoother performance. It appears that personal character is not that strong as Pires.  |
ck2005 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.204 |
2008-02-24 18:28 |
| [#3682] Brahms Sym#4 有待解封的布拉姆斯管弦樂全集(DVD).  |
ck2005 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.204 |
2008-02-24 18:41 |
| [#3683] Brahms Sym#4 早晨... 來一點輕鬆柔軟的西班牙結他。  |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2008-02-25 10:00 |
| [#3684] Rhapsody Some sonic excitment in Sunday night, the Cello section in this recording is jaw dropping.  |
chankaiming 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.69 |
2008-02-25 10:17 |
| [#3685] Brahms Sym#4 Hi hercules and lym, Don't you think Stokowski's Brahms 4 is too hasty that details can't be aptly unfolded --- esp in the final mvt? Well, that's subjective i know, but his Mahler 2 on the same album I've got (RCA Gold Seal: pictured below) is great.  |
wal 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.5 |
2008-02-25 10:24 |
| [#3686] Vegh's Mozart Wonderful playing by Sandor Vegh and demonstrative grade recording, but most enjoyable is Mozart's music, it can always make you forget all the trouble.  |
chankaiming 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.69 |
2008-02-25 10:25 |
| [#3687] Vegh's Mozart remember to get the whole set. The 10 CD boxset is just less than $500!! |
cande 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.98 |
2008-02-25 10:35 |
| [#3688] Brahms Sym#4 Hello doctorjohn, Though I am not very impressed with Schuricht's Brahms 4th with VPO in 1965 (album pictured below), I see his mono Beethoven cycle on EMI as a yardstick interpretation in his times. More, his account of Missa Solemnis + Brahms First on is irresistably magnificent. The Missa, in clean and natural mono, is even better than Bohm's 195X version on DGG Original Masters.  |
wal 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.5 |
2008-02-25 10:36 |
| [#3689] Brahms Sym#4 ... (FYI) Beethoven: Missa Solemnis Stader, Cavelti, Haefliger, Rehfuss Choir of St. Hedweg's, Berlin NDR Symphony Orchestra, 1957 Brahms: Symphony No.1 Orchestre de la Suisse Romande Carl Schuricht [Archiphon]  |
wal 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.5 |
2008-02-25 10:41 |
