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[#4242] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user 我有朋友住在深圳他們也是 Leak 友你說【急】是 ???		Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.224	2005-02-26 18:28

[#4243] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
多",急者,@急知道也.

szman

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203.xxx.xxx.125

2005-02-26 18:31

[#4244] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
Thank you PLEASE 多指教.

szman

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203.xxx.xxx.125

2005-02-26 18:35

[#4245] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
Welcome : )

Gingers

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221.xxx.xxx.224

2005-02-26 18:37

[#4246] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
2 PCS GZ32 MULLARD

CV593 MILITARY PRINT

NEW AND WRAPPED IN MILITARY BOXES

BRITISH MADE 1967

Gingers

正式會員
221.xxx.xxx.224

2005-02-26 18:56

[#4247] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
John:

My pair of ECC33 look like your CV2821...
CV = Commercial Valve??

Gingers:

For John's two pair of black base, one is with D getter and the other with the block tank getter...
D-getter should be a better one....

Little_Stone

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221.xxx.xxx.215

2005-02-26 19:51

[#4248] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
Valve Numbers and how to decode them

European system, also known in Britain as the Mullard Code
Two codes are used, one for transmitting and industrial valves, the other
for receiving valves. Both consist of a string of two or three letters followed by a
series of digits, for example ECC83, EL34.

TRANSMITTING VALVES
First letter (general class of valve)
M LF power amplifier or modulator triode
P RF power pentode
Q RF power tetrode
R Rectifier
T RF power triode

Second letter (type of cathode)
G Oxide-coated filament in mercury-vapour rectifier
V Indirectly heated oxide-coated cathode
X Directly heated pure tungsten filament
Y Directly heated thoriated tungsten filament
Z Directly heated oxide-coated filament (except in mercury-vapour
rectifiers)

Third letter
S Silica envelope

First number (anode voltage in kV) followed by hyphen
05 0.5kV
5 5kV
12 12kV and so on

Second number (output)
For valves up to 5kW anode dissipation, the figures indicate maximum anode
dissipation in watts.
For water-cooled valves above 5kW dissipation, the figures indicate the
maximum output in kW.
For rectifiers, the figures indicate the maximum permissible rectified
current per valve in milliamps.

RECEIVING AND GENERAL PURPOSE VALVES

First letter (heater rating)
A 4V
B 180mA DC series connection
C 200mA AC/DC series connection
D 1.4V DC (normally directly heated, can also be 0.625, 1.2 or
1.25V)
E 6.3V (by far the most common prefix)
F 12.6 or 13V
G 5V, later defined as Rmiscellaneous voltages¹
H 150mA series connection
K 2V DC
L 450mA series connection (?)
O cold device, not heated, e.g. cold cathode tube, voltage
stabiliser or
semiconductor device
P 300mA AC/DC series connection
U 100mA series connection
V 50mA series connection
X 600mA series connection
Y 450mA series connection

The second and where applicable, third and fourth letters in
multi-electrode valves indicate the types of device in the valve. They are normally
listed in alphabetical order.
A Signal diode
B (=AA) double diode
C Signal triode
D Output or power triode (e.g. TV shunt stabiliser)
E Signal tetrode
F Signal or RF pentode
H Hexode or heptode (Hexode structure)
K Heptode or octode (octode structure)
L Output tetrode, beam tetrode, or pentode (including TV line
output valves)
M Magic eye tuning indicator
N Gas-filled triode or thyratron
Q Nonode
X Full-wave rectifier or double diode (gas-filled)
Y Half wave rectifier or single diode (vacuum)
Z Full-wave rectifier or double diode (vacuum)

Digits indicate the base (first digit) and a code to distinguish valves
that would otherwise have identical numbers (e.g. EL84 and EL85 are both output
pentodes with a 6.3V heater on a B9A base. They are otherwise different).

1 - 10 side contact
11 - 20 footless
21 - 30 Loctal
31 - 39 and 300 series International Octal
40 - 49, 140 - 149 B8A
60, 70 Subminiatures
80 - 89, 180 and 800 series B9A
90 - 99 B7G
200 series B10B
500 series B9D

GEC Code (Marconi/Osram Brands also)
Consist of Letter (or Letters) followed by digits (e.g. L63, KT88). The
digits are simply to distinguish similar valves (like all triodes), and cannot be
decoded. The letters have the following meaning.

A Industrial valve (Maybe almost anything - power triode, etc.)
B Double triode
D Diode
GU Gas-filled rectifier
GT Gas Triode (Thyratron)
H Signal triode (high impedance)
KT Kinkless tetrode (beam tetrode)
L Signal triode (low impedance)
MU Indirectly heated rectifier
N Output pentode
P Output triode
QP Quiescent push-pull double pentode
S Tetrode (Screen Grid Valve)
U Rectifier
VS Variable mu tetrode
W Variable mu pentode
X Triode hexode, heptode, octode, frequency changer
Y Tuning indicator
Z HF pentode

USA (Radio Manufacturers Association)
This code consists of digits, letters, digits plus an optional suffix. A
variant is used by the Russians.

The first digits give the heater voltage rating, with the exception that
the codes 7
and 14 are used to indicate 6.3V and 12.6V valves with a loctal base.
Not all tubes follow the rules; for instance 1F4 has 2V heaters and 2C22 has 6.3V
heaters.

Letters specify the type of valve, but there appears to be no consistency
of coding. S often indicates a single-ended (no top cap) version of an
earlier valve with such a cap

Second digits give either the number of active electrodes, or the number
of external connections.

The suffix letters specify the type of envelope or base. The code is
G large Glass envelope.
GC Glass Compact, a tubular glass envelope
GT Glass Tubular, the smallest glass envelope
LT Locking base
M Metal envelope
WA High quality version

Mazda Code (Great Britain)
Consists of digits, Letters, digits. Do not confuse with a US code.

First digits give heater voltage, except that 10, 20, 30 indicate 100mA,
200mA,
300mA for series connection

Letters give type of valve
C Frequency changer
D Signal diode
F Signal tetrode/pentode
K Thyratron
L Signal triode
M Tuning indicator
P Output tetrode/pentode
U Half wave rectifier
UU Full wave rectifier.
Mazda codes tend not to double up letters - L is used for multiple triodes
also.

Final digits distinguish between otherwise identical codes.

British Royal Air Force
Code consists of letters followed by digits. The letters have the
following
meanings :
VCR - valve cathode ray (CRT)
VGT - valve gas triode (thyratron)
VI - valve indicator (tuning eye)
VR - valve receiving (general receiving valve)
VS - valve stabilising (gas stabiliser)
VT - valve transmitting (general transmitting valve)
VU - rectifier

British Army
Again, letters followed by digits. The letter part gives the valve type as
follows :
ACR - Army CRT
AR - Army receiving valve (generally triode)
ARD - Army receiving diode
ARDD - Army receiving double diode
ARH - Army receiving hexode
ARP - Army receiving pentode
ARS - Army receiving screen grid (tetrode)
ARTH - Army receiving triode hexode
ARTP - Army receiving triode pentode
AT - Army transmitting valve (generally power triode)
ATP - Army transmitting Pentode
ATS - Army transmitting Screen Grid (Tetrode)
AU - Army Rectifier
AW - Army Stabiliser

British Royal Navy
Another letters followed by digits code. The letters give the type of the
valve, as follows :
NC Navy CRT
NGT Navy gas triode (thyratron)
NR Navy receiving valve
NS Navy stabiliser
NT Navy transmitting (or power) valve
NU Navy rectifier

Other British series
CV (common valve) numbers replaced the above 3 codes during WW2. There is
no way to decode these by simple inspection of their number. ZA and 10E are
also used as prefixes to catalogue numbers. For example UHF Rhorned¹ triode 10E/392
is also equivalent to ZA 3055, VR 135, NR 80, CV 1135 and E 1148.

French Army
Originally numbered in the TM (Télégraphie Militaire) series with the
letters TM followed by the type number. There was also an R11¹ series of all-metal
construction with octal base and equivalent to comparable American types but using
11-volt heaters. Thus 11L6 was similar to 6L6 but using 11-volt heaters. Valves
marked ECMR indicate French army origin (Etablissement Centrale du Matériel
Radio-télégraphique militaire.

German Defence (Reichswehr)
Most German army valves use a special base and bear codes in the format:
two letters, two digits, one letter and two digits.

First letter
R Reichswehr (Defence), includes both Wehrmacht (Army) and
Kriegsmarine
(Navy)

Second letter
D Dekametric wavebands
G Rectifier (Gleichrichter) or diode
K Cathode ray tube
L Transmitting or Power
V Amplifier (Verstärker)

First number
Heater voltage

Third letter
A Cathode ray indicator
D Dual anode
G Rectifier or diode
H Hexode
L Speed modulation
M Magnetron
P Pentode
T Triode

Final number
This indicates the maximum power output in watts if the valve is a power
tube, the coefficient of amplification if an amplifier or maximum rectified current
if a rectifier.

A different scheme was used by the Air Force, employing two letters and a
number.
The number is a simple type number, issued progressively as each new valve was
registered.

First letter
L Luftwaffe (German Air Force)

Second letter
B Cathode ray tube
D Dekametric waves
F Special type
G Rectifier or diode
K Stabiliser
M Magnetron
S Transmitting, wavelengths above 1 metre
V Amplifier, wavelengths above 1 metre

Exceptions to this scheme include SA (rectifier), SD (triode) and SF
(pentode), all using 1.9V heaters.

Mazda (France)
Television tubes use the code letter C (for cathode ray tube), a number
(indicating screen size in mm), then two letters followed by a number. The first
indicates the method of deflection (M = magnetic, S = electrostatic) and the second
the screen colour (B = blue, G = green, R = radar long-persistence, W = white). The
numbers were allocated sequentially.

Miniwatt (France)
This is a subset of the European system. Either two or three letters are
used, followed by a sequential number.
First letter (heater)
A 4V AC
B 180mA DC
C 200mA AC/DC
D 1.4V battery
E AC and 6.3V car battery
F 13V car battery
H 4V battery
K 2V battery
U 100mA AC/DC

Second and optional third letter (type of valve)
A Diode
B Double diode
C Triode (oscillator, detector, amplifier)
D Audio power triode
E Pentode
F RF pentode
H Hexode or heptode
K Octode
L Audio power pentode
M Visual tuning indicator
X Dual-anode rectifier (gas-filled)
Y Single anode rectifier (vacuum)
Z Dual-anode rectifier (vacuum)

Television tubes use two letters followed by a number. The first
indicates the method of deflection (D = electrostatic, M = magnetic) and the second
the screen colour (B = blue, G = green, R = radar long-persistence, W = white). The
numbers were allocated sequentially.

Telefunken (Germany)
This simple code had just two series, RE and RS, standing for
Röhren-Empfangen (receiving valves) and Röhren-Senden (transmitting valves). The
three-digit number following indicates first the heater current (first two digits, in
hundredths of an amp) then the heater voltage (4, 3, 2 or 1 for 4V, 3V, 2V or 1.5V).
The final letter indicates the valve base pattern, t for Telefunken, d for Europa-base
with side contact for space grid, and no letter at all for Europa-base.

American Army (US Army - Signal Corps)
VT numbers are USA military valves, with no way of decoding their
pattern without look-up tables, although many valves were dual-marked with VT and
civilian part numbers.

BVA numbers (British Valve Association) were assigned to valves used for
civilian replacements in WW2.

Gingers

正式會員
221.xxx.xxx.224

2005-02-26 19:53

[#4249] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
Other British series CV (common valve) numbers replaced the above 3 codes during WW2.

There is no way to decode these by simple inspection of their number. ZA and 10E are
also used as prefixes to catalogue numbers. For example UHF Rhorned¹ triode 10E/392
is also equivalent to ZA 3055, VR 135, NR 80, CV 1135 and E 1148.

Gingers

正式會員
221.xxx.xxx.224

2005-02-26 19:54

[#4250] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
http://www.etedeschi.ndirect.co.uk/valve.htm

Gingers

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221.xxx.xxx.224

2005-02-26 19:56

[#4251] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
Military Codes
A number of Military codes are used, but these are unlikely to be encountered in domestic receivers. If one is encountered the best course of action would probably be to find out the commercial equivalent from a suitable data book or web site - or from my Valve Data CD-ROM!

Military codes cannot decoded in any way - they are generally a fixed prefix (such as CV) followed by a serial number.

http://www.vintage-radio.com/repair-restore-information/valve_valve-numbering.shtml

Gingers

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221.xxx.xxx.224

2005-02-26 19:59

[#4252] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
Gingers:

My new power cord for Leak 12.1

Little_Stone

正式會員
221.xxx.xxx.215

2005-02-27 02:13

[#4253] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
hello, i am a new Leak owner. just bought a pair of Leak TL12.1 amps from ebay and now in the process of restoring them both. having checked and found all the resistors have drifed quite a lot and caps are leaky, i decide to replace them all. started with one of the amp, resistors and caps are replaced with the cheap ones to make sure it works ok before upgrading to more expensive components. belows are my results

- voltages at tubes ECC33 and the 2 KT66s are close to the expected values as indicated in the schematic

- however, this is not the case for EF37A. here are the details:

volts at both ends of R5 are 442V (vs 445V in schematic) and 361V
EF37A anode volt is 137V (vs 80V in schematic)
screen (pin 4) volt is 59V (vs 35V in schematic)
cathode (pin 8) volt is 1.47V (vs 1.3V in schematic)

can any experts in this forum comment whether these values are too bad and what might be the causes of problem? I have checked that the filtering cap C10 is functioning ok.

Thanks
Tim

PS: would appreciate if anyone can show me how to post photos from my pc

bontube

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221.xxx.xxx.228

2005-02-27 12:00

[#4254] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
"would appreciate if anyone can show me how to post photos from my pc"

To post photos, you need to place the image under a public accessable album that supports hot-link. You can open an account in the msn group, then you will be given a few MBs of space for storing your photo. Upload your images to your personal album there, then copy the link of the image (i.e. the property) to the "相片" field at R33 post message window.

lym

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219.xxx.xxx.251

2005-02-27 12:06

[#4255] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user
thanks lym!