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| [#8985] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user What is your recommendation? ---------------------------------- Hope you win :-) I asked the seller to provide me with high resolution photos. John |
Gingers 正式會員221.xxx.xxx.66 |
2005-12-18 22:18 | |
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| [#8986] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Ended at 911 GBP  |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.66 |
2005-12-18 22:37 |
| [#8987] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user John The Leak Stereo 60 is a very nice EL34 amp. I have listened to it a lot 2 weeks ago using the EAR 834 pre amp. The midrange of the St60 is quite transparent and the bass is much deeper than the other Leak amps that I have used. If I decide to change all the original components to modern ones, I will be quite happy to use it daily. Hon |
hifienthusiast 正式會員 80.xxx.xxx.11 |
2005-12-18 22:56 |
| [#8988] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Leak Stereo 60 in Italian ebay, very unusual rectangular choke. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/amplificatore-finale-LEAK-valvole-valvolare-valve-amp_W0QQitemZ5841212015QQcategoryZ39783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  |
hifienthusiast 正式會員 80.xxx.xxx.11 |
2005-12-18 23:05 |
| [#8989] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user .  |
hifienthusiast 正式會員 80.xxx.xxx.11 |
2005-12-18 23:06 |
| [#8990] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user .  |
hifienthusiast 正式會員 80.xxx.xxx.11 |
2005-12-18 23:06 |
| [#8991] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Hi Can you advise how to choose a pair of Leak 12.1? What are the precautions? Thanks Powercord |
powercord 正式會員 86.xxx.xxx.4 |
2005-12-19 02:48 |
| [#8992] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Richard, John, I'm on this pair now. What is your recommendation? Hi Can you advise how to choose a pair of Leak 12.1? What are the precautions? ---------------------------------------------- My advice: a) Keep a low profile about your intention to bid and bid at the very last moment. Some guy(s) simply wants to push up to reveal your maximium (but retracts afterwards if no longer a dead chicken). b) Buy those in a decent comestic condition as possible. In the amp's original colour and shape is always desirable. c) Check carefully about the internal condition to assess if the majority of the original components can be used. If the amps are to be rebuild completely, it doesn't matter if any or none are original. Add the cost, e.g. about $2,000 for TCC coupling, $1,500 for resistors and electrolytics, etc. Calculate your budget accordingly. d) The rectangular capacitor block is costly and hard to come by. Estimate if the existing one can be used, e.g. has the block been bypassed, any extra capacitor added to the block, etc. e) When the seller said the amp cannot power up, the worse scenario is a burnt power transformer. Rewinding costs $800. Bid accordingly. f) The most decisive is perhaps the condition of the output transformers. You can't be sure who can reliably be called for and what will be eventual sound after rewinding. Avoid. Richard  |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2005-12-19 04:42 |
| [#8993] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user The Leak Stereo 60 is a very nice EL34 amp. --------------------------------------- Let's organize a party at Gingers' place when it is convenient to him. :)  |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2005-12-19 04:50 |
| [#8994] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user The winner is among this thread? :)  |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2005-12-19 05:35 |
| [#8995] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Most bidders of this TL12.1 auction are from HK. The others are from Austria and S Korea. Sold for 1190 pounds at the end. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LEAK-Point-One-TL12-valve-amplifier-Preamplifier_W0QQitemZ5840341059QQcategoryZ43804QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Prices of TL12.1 is kept at similar price recently. I remember during the summer, one tidy Leak 12.1 in Reading was sold for 700 pounds with only 1 bid. I was tempted to bid because Reading is only about 1.5 hour from me. I have already got a pair so I didn't bid. Otherwise, I could sell it now and made a few hundred pounds! Hon |
hifienthusiast 正式會員 80.xxx.xxx.11 |
2005-12-19 06:03 |
| [#8996] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Hon, When will you come back HK? |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2005-12-19 06:16 |
| [#8997] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Just paid US $39 for a pair of these 8uF/600V oil-filled caps for trial in my DIY 12.1 clone.. Shipping is not cheap. :( At present, Solen metal film caps are used in the power supply. Will these oil-filled caps sound better?  |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2005-12-19 06:28 |
| [#8998] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Richard I will be back to HK on Chinese new year's eve (28th Jan). The oil filled caps should be quite good. I had a 8uF one and a few 0.1uF ones a few years ago and sold them for very little in ebay! Hon |
hifienthusiast 正式會員 80.xxx.xxx.11 |
2005-12-19 06:31 |
| [#8999] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Hi all, I have a pair of NOS Cornell-Dubilier 8 uF (micro farad), 600 Volt DC paper in oil capacitors. Mounting brackets for both capacitors are included. The printing on the capacitor body is as follows: TJH 6080 G I tested them with a DVM and did not detect any leakage. Both of the capacitors are in very nice, NOS condition, and the terminals are clean. --------------------------------------------- It is hard to find some space to accommodate them on chassis. May change to use two mono chassis?  |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2005-12-19 06:31 |
| [#9000] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Let's organize a party at Gingers' place when it is convenient to him. :) -------------------------------------- My warmest welcome. I think you did not come for a few months already. And I have some toys you did not audition before. I would like to have your comments:-) i.e. Fisher 400CX-2, Leak Stereo 60 and the champagne in my place :-) I will check the leave day in this week :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.248 |
2005-12-19 06:43 |
| [#9001] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Hon I noticed this clean 60. The seller refused to ship out of Europe. You can consider to bring it back to Hong Kong if the price is right :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.248 |
2005-12-19 06:47 |
| [#9002] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user The winner is among this thread? :) -------------------------------------- An old man bought it, not me. This is a very clean 12.1 :-) However, I did not find any reason to buy my fourth 12.1 :-) After tax payment, my pocket was burned. John  |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.248 |
2005-12-19 06:52 |
| [#9003] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjleak/message/18424 I came across this message posted by Carl dated 2005-08-05 and enjoyed reading it again :-) ------------------------------------- (Cross posted to Quad and Spendor group) Thanks Steve for making such a great effort, here is a small write up on the day, all very subjective of course! Here are some pics for the Quad and Spendor groups to see: http://photobucket.com/albums/y115/kiewa/vintage_audio/ It was a fantastic day, but as expected we didn't get through all the gear. We began with running all the speakers with two CD tracks driven by a Quad 303. It was interesting to note the differences between the speakers. The Spendor BC1 and Quad ESL 57 sounded quite similar, provided you were on axis with the Quad's. The LS3/5a were simply amazing......how does this little shoe box sound so lifelike? The Tannoys were in a league of there own in terms of dynamics and scale, when the levels rose they filled the large room easily. The sound is so powerful. Initially the big Tannoys of Steve Spicer's were out of phase, they sounded pretty woeful as you could imagine, exaggerated by the SRM12X which sounded much better. After correcting this phase issue, the big Tannoys sounded excellent on more modern music. The Tannoy does have a very strong character of sound, I am not sure I could live with the mid range colouration however on popular and jazz, a big Tannoy is hard to beat. They are not so convincing on classical music I have to say. The Spendor and Quad's were much more neutral sounding on classical works and had a more extended top end but inferior dynamics. The Quad 303 I have to say is a very fine amplifier. At one stage, I was out of the room for some minutes and when I came back I was amazed to hear how life like the sound was from the big Tannoys. When I walked up closer, I found out the LS3/5a's were playing! .......on vocal and small chamber works, this speaker is amazing. How does it do it? On larger scale works, the speakers were swallowed up by the large room and limited output but even so, the performance was excellent. I didn't have a decent listen to Steve's modified Leak Sandwiches but for the few minutes I heard them they sounded pretty good. After lunch, Steve did a very interesting speaker comparison using Leak amplification. He devised a switch where we could swap instantaneously between three speakers. We compared the big Tannoys, the Quads and LS3/5a. Again, the differences were pretty much as above however Steve's choice of vocal music suited the Tannoys much better...perhaps giving weight to the theory that one really needs to have a few systems depending upon what you listen to. Steve then fired up the Lowther LL26 amps, I'd never seen a pair before and there performance was most impressive. A very authoritive bass with articulate and detailed mid range and treble with lots of power, nice! We then used the BC1 to try some amplifiers, Trimax A54, Quad II, Leak TL12.1, Radford K25. I had never heard the 12.1 before so this was a good experience. They have the most beautiful mid range I think I have yet heard from the Spendors, so detailed with amazing presence. The low and high frequencies were not extended, the bass I found slightly ill defined and the top end was noticeably rolled, this was very apparent when we tried the Radford and Trimax A54 which drove the Spendors with much more authority at the frequency extremes but without the beautiful mid range of the Leaks. On certain types of music, the 12.1 is simply stunning, like jazz, chamber and vocal works. Unfortunately, time did not permit us to try the TL25A, maybe next time. The Quad II was in between the sound of the Trimax/Radford and Leak TL12.1. Not quite as sweet and detailed in the mid range but better at the frequency extremes. Next we tried the Quads with the Tannoys and I felt this was not a good combination, the Quad II didn't have a good control of the speakers, possibly because of the power needed to fill the room. The bass was lumpy and slow, but the mid range was excellent as was the top end. Again, fine for small works but for large scale classical and popular works, more power was needed. The Quads were better driving the BC1's and although not going as loud as the Tannoys, the sound was more coherent. For me, the sound of the day goes to John Corneille who brought his beautiful Luxman MB3045's driving the Quad ESL57. The Lux had it all, detail, frequency extension and beautiful open mid range. Coupled with the Quads neutrality, this was stunning. I had a great day and a lot of fun and thanks to those members who bought gear, especially Steve Spicer who had to bring a trailer as well and to John for bringing the Quads. Regards, Carl |
Gingers 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.228 |
2005-12-19 14:55 |
[#9004] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user  |
Gingers 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.228 |
2005-12-19 15:05 |
