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| [#11346] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Marantz 7C fever in Taiwan ------------------------------------ At least two Marantz 7C visited me before my Fish came to my life :-) 看到二手區討論到Marantz 7c 的serial number與價格的關係, 敢不以個人經驗在此野人獻曝一番. 期能拋磚引玉, 希望Myav的各位網兄能夠分享經驗. 個人覺得, 可能是Myav網兄的年齡平均應屬較為年輕一群, 通常對"骨董"音響的討論較少. 有關 Marantz 7c 的編號, 個人現役擁有的編號為18***, 12***,16***, 經與釵h日本的audiophile朋友聊天時請教日本人對7c編號的看法時, 總括有幾項看法: 先不管價錢, 一致認為最好的是15***~16***, 覺得聲音最好, 通透與韻味兼收, 零件的狀況也還算相對新(7c生產的時期還算蠻長的), 在日本也是價錢最好的. 應該避免的則是20***~以後, 但並非每部20***都不好, 這一批最後生產的7c裡面若使用的Sprague電容已經仍是Bumble Bee或Black Beauty其實還是非常值得珍藏的, 但是若非使用原來的Sprague Bumble Bee或Black Beauty電容者則將大失7c原有韻味, 而以Black Beauty的耐用程度, 據說壽命再用個20年應該還很正常, 千萬別為了改善7c的 一些"缺點", 例如不夠快, 不夠通透, 描繪音場能力不夠等....就大剌剌的主張換了那些Sprague電容, 當然如果早期Bumble Bee電容已經有漏電或者老化損壞而無法使7c在正確的工作點上工作者, 儘量想辦法找到原來Bumble Bee或者Black Beauty代替(個人偏好Black Beauty,與Bumble Bee聲音接近且更為耐用), 對於那些換了現代的所謂"現代補品"電容, 不是不好, 而只是那將使得7c變的不是7c了, 就這點我個人是敬謝不敏的. 至於Sprague 後期的Orange, Vitamin Q, 放在7c上後, 總也覺得哪已經不是7c了. 其餘12***~15***範圍者, 速度較慢,韻味夠, 少了些通透, 由於生產年代較久,一則使用較久, 二則當時零件與後期略有不同. 與17***~20***這一系列比較起來, 17***~20***, 則相對通透度高, 反應快, 音色仍保有Marantz一貫的氣質. 這一範圍的7c其實相較所謂的~15000前, 少了些暈黃, 可看的清楚些, 仍不失其韻味. 這些僅屬個人淺見, 我想版上擁有7c作為現役機者應該不少, 應會有更多迴響, 其實我還發現一個狀況, 釵h7c的擁躉, 如果LP仍然是他重要的訊源, 通常不會只有一部7c的. 個人使用的3部7c過渡早中晚期, 每一部取得時都有其故事, 相較於McIntosh c22而言, Marantz 7c仍是我的主力現役機種. 過去10來年, 由一部約50000台幣買到後來100000台幣一部, 調教好的7c速度實在是一點都不慢, 7c擁躉常說的那句箴言"7c不熱就不好聽嚕",當你發現你珍愛的7c工作起來是冰涼涼時, 我想你應該是還沒有體會過7c的熱情. 幾十年的老機器, 總之代表那時候的風華, 君不見我釵h朋友為了預算上的限制想以仿7c的前級替代, 乍聽下都比原版7c優秀太多了, 但連聽半個月後, 鮮少不將原來7c接回原來系統. 至於重刻版的7c, 聽過後覺得那是另外一件事情了. |
Gingers 正式會員221.xxx.xxx.115 |
2006-05-01 14:45 | |
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| [#11347] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Ginger This one is for you, my recent TL10 addition.  |
clng2003 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.216 |
2006-05-01 21:44 |
| [#11348] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Inside TL10  |
clng2003 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.216 |
2006-05-01 21:45 |
| [#11349] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user try again inside one of the TL10 |
clng2003 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.216 |
2006-05-01 21:46 |
| [#11350] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Chi, Send me your photo. rcwy AT hotmail DOT com |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.246 |
2006-05-01 21:56 |
| [#11351] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Today, a pair of Leak TL50 Plus leaked into my house :-) Must thanks David for the free consultation before allowing my $$$ leaked out from my wallet. Usually it will be a happy event when a person brought some new toys but for Leak it is the start of problem :-( Now must hunt for the lion and at the same time these babes must go for health check. Ace  |
Ace_Hayashi 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.75 |
2006-05-01 22:18 |
| [#11352] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Spent the whole long weekend holiday upgrading my 220v Leak...  |
maxbliss888 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.5 |
2006-05-01 23:25 |
| [#11353] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Lots of works...  |
maxbliss888 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.5 |
2006-05-01 23:26 |
| [#11354] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Need to finish cleaning and restoring before families come here for holiday.. : )  |
maxbliss888 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.5 |
2006-05-01 23:27 |
| [#11355] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Top view : )  |
maxbliss888 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.5 |
2006-05-01 23:36 |
| [#11356] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user A special CD produced, written and sang by my Singaporean friend! Some says that SIngapore is a "culture desert"...but they are a few composer and singer who tries very hard! The muisc market in Singapore is so small....In fact, we have to try harder in many aspects...  |
maxbliss888 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.5 |
2006-05-01 23:55 |
| [#11357] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user 先不管價錢, 一致認為最好的是15***~16***, 覺得聲音最好, 通透與韻味兼收, 零件的狀況也還算相對新(7c生產的時期還算蠻長的), 在日本也是價錢最好的. _________________________________________________ Mine M7C serial is in 15.. ^^  |
dd845 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2006-05-02 09:20 |
| [#11358] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Ace "Must thanks David for the free consultation before allowing my $$$ leaked out from my wallet." ________________________________________________ You are welcome la.. Good buy wor.. Have seen one pair in Hong Kong asking more than HK$40K !! Call me in any questons.. |
dd845 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2006-05-02 09:24 |
| [#11359] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user This one is for you ------------------------ Chi Thanks a lot. When / How :-) John |
Gingers 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2006-05-02 09:51 |
| [#11360] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user 先不管價錢, 一致認為最好的是15***~16***, 覺得聲音最好, 通透與韻味兼收, 零件的狀況也還算相對新(7c生產的時期還算蠻長的), 在日本也是價錢最好的. _________________________________________________ (Mine M7C serial is in 15.. ^^) DD Why the "BEST" alway in your house? Colin  |
xwh 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.176 |
2006-05-02 10:54 |
| [#11361] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user I guess M9's toys + Tannoy :-)  |
Gingers 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2006-05-02 17:29 |
| [#11362] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user The Tannoy is being sold at 60,000 HKD :-)  |
Gingers 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2006-05-02 17:31 |
| [#11363] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user jesus, how come it just asked for 4.5 pairs of LS3/5A V2 ? Too cheap, main reason is not easy to have space for them! |
diytfy 正式會員 155.xxx.xxx.45 |
2006-05-02 17:34 |
| [#11364] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Hi! I could get the leak TL12 on ebay. However, I never heard of the amp before. Though the amp was repaired by a specialist, I'm not sure what the sound is now. I am looking for a person who will advise me who to repair. I'm not chinese, but Korean. |
james6484 正式會員 59.xxx.xxx.54 |
2006-05-02 19:50 |
| [#11365] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Hi! I could get the leak TL12 on ebay. However, I never heard of the sound of the amp before. Though the amp was repaired by a specialist, I'm not sure what the sound is now. I am looking for a person who will advise me how to repair. I'm not chinese, but Korean. So I can read only English. Answer me in English. (I cannot delete the below words, so I write again.) Thanks |
james6484 正式會員 59.xxx.xxx.54 |
2006-05-02 20:03 |
