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| [#13848] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering Better put all effort to tune up the TL12+ to save face for the England team. |
timtube 正式會員203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 11:42 | |
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| [#13849] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering Tim I was told that the KL-V410 was made for professional audio use. There are only a few Germany made tube amplifiers for home use? I think the German liked to stay in a cineme or a studio to listen music :-) http://www.tube-classics.de/TC/GermanTubeHifi/Integamps/Integtable.htm |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 11:54 |
| [#13850] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering Is that the reason why Dynaco made a huge success in Germany whilst Eico never made it to the deutsche land? ---------------------------------------- May I know which Germany vintage tube amplifier (s) made a huge success in USA before?? :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 11:56 |
| [#13851] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering his "secret weapon" for the EL84 party ----------------------------------------- No la. I turned out TL/25A to meet the German already :-) TL/12+ by no way to compare with 25A :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 12:10 |
| [#13852] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering No la. I turned out TL/25A to meet the German already :-) TL/12+ by no way to compare with 25A :-) ---------------------------------------------- Gingers, do you meant that TL25A also defended by the V410 and therefore no point to compare TL12+! TL25A should actually be compared to the similar power Klangfilm V502 and V408. The V410 is actually the emergency back-up amp for the V502. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 14:24 |
| [#13853] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering For Leak vs. Klangfilm, the fair rounds should be : TL12 (KT66 Triode PP) vs. V402 (F2a11 Triode PP) TL25A (KT66 Pentode PP) vs. V502 (EL34 Pentode PP) TL25+ (EL34 UL PP) vs. V408a (EL34 Pentode PP) TL12+ (EL84 UL PP) vs. V410 (EL84 Pentode PP) |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 14:29 |
| [#13854] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering For Leak vs. Klangfilm, the fair rounds should be : TL12 (KT66 Triode PP) vs. V402 (F2a11 Triode PP) TL25A (KT66 Pentode PP) vs. V502 (EL34 Pentode PP) TL25+ (EL34 UL PP) vs. V408a (EL34 Pentode PP) TL12+ (EL84 UL PP) vs. V410 (EL84 Pentode PP) --------------------------------------------- Will like to attend this party :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 14:46 |
| [#13855] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering But I do not know anyone who owns a KL-V402 in Hong Kong. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 14:48 |
| [#13856] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering do you meant that TL25A also defended by the V410 and therefore no point to compare TL12+! -------------------------------------------- el84 amplifier is easily HITACHI. My 25A needs at least double time to warm up. |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 14:48 |
| [#13857] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering Or we can have Leak vs. German Studio Amps TL25A vs. V69 TL12+ vs. V81 TL10 vs. V73 TL50+ vs. V101 |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 14:50 |
| [#13858] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering do you meant that TL25A also defended by the V410 and therefore no point to compare TL12+! ------------------------------------------- Type. I mean "defected" instead of "defended". Oh dear, so the German had a field day in the Leak den. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 14:52 |
| [#13859] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering Another typo. What is wrong with me? It should be "defeated" instead. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 14:53 |
| [#13860] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering Or we can have Leak vs. German Studio Amps TL25A vs. V69 TL12+ vs. V81 TL10 vs. V73 TL50+ vs. V101 _______________________________________________ Tim, In my past auditioning of the TL10 and the V73, I don't think the TL10 stand a chance. |
cpsjj 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.167 |
2007-01-18 14:56 |
| [#13861] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering I think the worthy opponent to the V73 from England should be the AM8/3A from the BBC studio. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 16:00 |
| [#13862] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering We should have a party soon for "Battle of Vintage Studio Amps - West Germany vs. England" : V69 vs. BBC AM8/6 and LSM/10 (Sound Sales BBC) V81 vs. BBC LSM/8 (BBC version Leak TL12.1) V73 vs. BBC AM8/2A |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-01-18 16:09 |
| [#13863] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering The second Fisher 50C was fished at ebay in 2006 and it swam across the ocean by place. Still fresh.  |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 16:16 |
| [#13864] Fisherman in 2007 I think they were born in the same week if not same day :-)  |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 16:19 |
| [#13865] Fisherman in 2007 A very well matched pair. Congratulations! Do they work?? |
cpsjj 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.167 |
2007-01-18 16:20 |
| [#13866] Pre el84 tube amplifier gathering V69 vs. BBC AM8/6 and LSM/10 (Sound Sales BBC) V81 vs. BBC LSM/8 (BBC version Leak TL12.1) V73 vs. BBC AM8/2A -------------------------------------------- With UK speakers. Can we have any Germany speakers for the test :-) Loudspeakers manufactured in the 50's by WSW (Wiener Schwachstrom Werke) Siemens & Halske.  |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 16:26 |
| [#13867] Fisherman in 2007 I fiddled a little with Gingers' 50C last time he brought along. There is in fact a saddle point of emotion in the combination of the treble and bass adjustments. I did try the 2.99999L and 2.00001R setting and in my opinion it is slightly on the happy side. I prefer the 1.618L and 0.618R setting which is optimally sad but still maintain the subtle happiness. May be it will be easier to map out the different emotion settings for Gingers. Do they work?? -------------------------- They are singing now. No distortion :-) And I am studying how to set the tone control as what Richard, King & you had told me :-) ＞＞I prefer the 1.618L and 0.618R＜＜ I am stupid I can't find this setting :-) CP, are you referring to the King's new tone control and only the wise can hear :-) As what Bruce Lee said," Don't cheat me as I did not study as much as you had learned " Kidding |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-01-18 16:33 |
