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[#1441] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
今日哥頓帶個老婆返歸啦, 恭喜...
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希望新年前執好間房同它洞房,........
kkitkko
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203.xxx.xxx.144
2010-02-07 02:01
[#1442] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
I don't feel surprise when the Chairman of P&C appraised the sound of Gordan's 41a+42a,it is specially built by Mr Wu with as much as possible original parts(it costs a funtune nowadays),and disposed with those original trans that are limited with frequency bandwidth,typically, the OPT used in the original 42a is WE127A(50-6K), its replaced by the WE171C, the primary is specially wired to cope with a PP205D sustaining a bandwidth of 35-10,000hz, which to WE standard is exceptional.Also the two WE109A RET connected to the B+ before its going thru' to the 171A for powering the 2x205D plate is also crucial to the stability and smoothness of the sound both as a driver for the more powerful 43a and as a power amp of 1.75watts which is just sufficient to drive the 755A for smaller size music.In any circumstances, I still think the 41a+42a is best treated as a driver, it can drive anything as you please from SE 212D/211D to a PP252A/PX25 etc, its possibly the best driver ever-made in hi-fi history.As a power amp, apart from the fact that it does not have sufficient gas to drive a larger engine, listening experience revealed that it is smooth sounding but very restricted in dynamics,so I guess the current of the 264A/C tube is too low to hit the swing of the 205D which speaks of the insufficiency of dynamics of the 41a+42A which should always be the long-suit of WE amps.
ptsang
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219.xxx.xxx.58
2010-02-07 18:59
[#1443] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
胡師傅,我想做2個618B MC升壓牛,1)輸入約300 ohm,放大high gain 1:5, low gain 1:8
2)輸入約30 ohm,放大high gain 1:10, low gain 1:15
O.K 嘛?
studiogrey
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220.xxx.xxx.185
2010-02-08 18:16
[#1444] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
修正
2)輸入約30 ohm,放大high gain 1:15, low gain 1:25
studiogrey
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220.xxx.xxx.185
2010-02-08 18:21
[#1445] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
立兄
我有現貨原廠1-618b 30:25000 1:28.8(是peter的)
2-老番618b 30:25000,3-老番618b 40:25000 4-老番285e
150/600:25000 1:12.9/1:6.45
我建議你先拎去試試,然後再決定做那一款
水胡
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219.xxx.xxx.173
2010-02-08 23:43
[#1446] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
胡師傅,先謝過!
studiogrey
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220.xxx.xxx.185
2010-02-09 11:25
[#1447] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
Mr. WU, I will go to your workshop tomorrow
rickynew
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2010-02-10 00:12
[#1448] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
Mr Wu,
Will come with Gordan during Chinese New Year for fun and gethering, WE fans are welcome.Will let you know when a date is fixed.
ptsang
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219.xxx.xxx.200
2010-02-10 14:30
[#1449] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
胡師傅, the best audio note transformer is 55% nickel but the western electric transformer around 75-80% .
studiogrey
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219.xxx.xxx.82
2010-02-10 21:38
[#1450] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Permalloy is the term for a nickel iron magnetic alloy. Generically, it refers to an alloy with about 20% iron and 80% nickel content. Permalloy has a high magnetic permeability, low coercivity, near zero magnetostriction, and significant anisotropic magnetoresistance. The low magnetostriction is critical for industrial applications, where variable stresses in thin films would otherwise cause a ruinously large variation in magnetic properties. Permalloy's electrical resistivity generally varies within the range of 5% depending on the strength and the direction of an applied magnetic field. Permalloys typically have the face centered cubic crystal structure with a lattice constant of approximately 0.355 nm in the vicinity of a nickel concentration of 80%.

Permalloy is used in transformer laminations and magnetic recording head sensors. In its initial application, permalloy was wrapped around the insulated copper conductors of telecommunication cables, reducing signal distortion through improved inductive compensation of cable capacitive reactance.

The right conditions for transmitting signals through cables without distortion were first worked out mathematically by Oliver Heaviside.[1] After a prolonged search, permalloy was discovered in 1914 by Gustav Elmen of Bell Laboratories, who found it had higher permeability than silicon steel. Later, in 1923, he found its permeability could be greatly enhanced by heat treatment. Other compositions of permalloy are available, designated by a numerical prefix denoting the percentage of nickel in the alloy, for example 45 Permalloy containing 45% nickel, and 55% iron. Molybdenum Permalloy is an alloy of 81% nickel, 17% iron and 2% molybdenum. The latter was invented at Bell Labs in 1940. At the time, when used in long distance copper telephone lines, it allowed a tenfold increase in maximum line working speed.[2]

kkitkko
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61.xxx.xxx.87
2010-02-11 04:04
[#1451] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
Gordan,
Good stuff, no wonder why WE trans has improved frequency bandwidth since the mid-forties, its because they found the right Pemalloy in the 40's for making transformers and not, as we think, they don't need wider bandwidth for cinama applications.
ptsang
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219.xxx.xxx.247
2010-02-11 12:09
[#1452] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
For purpose of tube compliments of the 131A amps, 348A can be replaced by 310A/B, they have equilavent specs and characteristics except
1. different heater value
2. different pin positions and,
3. different type of grid cap, otherwise,they are the same.
ptsang
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219.xxx.xxx.247
2010-02-11 12:13
[#1453] Western Electric amps and associated equipments    
西電牛芯唔洗懷疑,但原廠用途不同,大部份都是窄頻寬,好多時比人話無高無低,闊頻寬只得幾款,天價,今日用5000蚊收購左隻壞原廠185a
水胡
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219.xxx.xxx.191
2010-02-11 22:50
[#1454] Western Electric amps and associated equip    
Peter Hing, I would love to join the party although I'm not the WE member yet. Would like to basic start with 131 amp. Please let me know when ? Cheers Eric
eric300
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218.xxx.xxx.104
2010-02-11 23:16
[#1455] Western Electric amps and associated equip    
Peter

I quote the following which bring my interest;

"...., he found its permeability could be greatly enhanced by heat treatment....'


Just want to clarify the melting point of orginal WE resin which Mr Wu used when re-wiring the transformer.......also the heating time scale.
kkitkko
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61.xxx.xxx.87
2010-02-12 02:39
[#1456] Western Electric amps and associated equip    
坡莫合金指铁镍合金,其含镍量的范围很广,在35%-90%之间。坡莫合金的最大特点是具有很高的弱磁场导磁率。它们的饱和磁感应强度一般在0.6--1.0T之间。
最简单的坡莫合金是铁镍两种元素组成的合金,通过适当的轧制和热处理,它们能够具备高导磁率,同时也可以合理搭配铁和镍的含量,获得比较高的饱和磁感应强度。但是,这种坡莫合金的电阻率低,力学性能不好,所以实际应用并不很多。
目前大量应用的坡莫合金是在铁镍的基础上添加一些其它元素,例如钼、铜等。添加这些元素的目的是增加材料的电阻率,以减小做成铁芯后的涡流损失。同时,添加元素也可以提高材料的硬度,这尤其有利于作为磁头等有磨损的应用。
坡莫合金的生产过程比较复杂。例如,板材轧制的工艺、退火温度、时间、退火后的冷却快慢等都对材料最终的磁性能有很大影响。
kkitkko
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61.xxx.xxx.87
2010-02-12 02:49
[#1457] Western Electric amps and associated equip    

this

退火温度、时间、退火后的冷却快慢等都对材料最终的磁性能有很大影响..............
kkitkko
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2010-02-12 02:49
[#1458] Western Electric amps and associated equip    
錳,鐵,鈹,鎳係我所知西電牛芯的材質.纯度非常高
有些牛芯也有銅的成份.
其實西電牛芯真係好利害,50-60年前已經比很多現代牛牛用料精.
胡師傅可把舊有西電材料再烹調出現有的味道…強!
studiogrey
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220.xxx.xxx.185
2010-02-12 10:55
[#1459] Western Electric amps and associated equip    
Mr Wu,We plan to come to visit you on next Thursday to celebrate the Year of Tiger and have tea/coffee together, don't know if the resturant opposite is open or not.
Eric, you are welcome, you'll become a member very soon, who can resist the WE sound after hearing it.
ptsang
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218.xxx.xxx.229
2010-02-12 11:00
[#1460] Western Electric amps and associated equip    
Hello Peter & Master Wu,
I will become a member of 131 amp today.
Happy to know you that you have a party on next Thursday.
Can i join to you?
BR/Simon
8floorboy
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119.xxx.xxx.247
2010-02-12 12:48
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