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[#1506] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Zimmerman (仙麻曼)是以彈奏蕭邦、 李斯特及德布西而享負盛名. 但用演繹上述作曲家的手法彈奏以結構分明、層次有序的貝多芬第五鋼琴協奏曲,加上以誇張大膽手法而聞名的指揮大師伯恩斯坦領導保守而擁有道地維也納風味的維也納愛樂者樂團,結果又會是如何呢?

告訴您,我覺得這個錄音是最有個性的,若您要聽皇者風範的帝皇協奏曲 (Emperor Concerto), 請挑亞勞 (Claudio Arrau)、波里尼 (Pollini)的版本; 若要人文古典氣息而莊嚴的, 請挑布蘭度 (Alfred Brendel)或基遼士 (Emil Giles); 若要浪漫抒情及如歌美聲的版本, 請挑米開蘭傑里 (Michelangeli). 若你要有個性的夫子自道而不失鋼琴技藝的終極示範, 此錄音是絕對不能錯過. 何況指揮大師伯恩斯坦 (Leonard Bernstein)亦不敢造次, 沒有氾濫的搶版及狂野的處理, 非常德奧的風格, 我想維也納愛樂者樂團 (Vienna Philharmoniker)堛漲悎v傅, 居它黹, 否則早就玩自動導航!!

這張Zimmerman的Beethoven piano concerto no.5(又名帝皇協奏曲), 國外樂評給他的評價不高,原因是不像貝多芬(太有個性的再創造詮釋吧!)。Zimmerman對於觸鍵,和速度的處理都非常的不貝多芬,甚至感覺有蕭邦的感覺(除了旋律是貝多芬之外),但是我聽完之後,卻是通體舒暢,琴音像大珠小珠落玉盤, 晶瑩剔透,貝多芬不一定要詮釋地像貝多芬,Zimmerman的觸鍵漂亮的嚇人,皇帝的第二樂章,第四號慢板都讓人深刻地體驗到那種抒情般的貝多芬,相對於米開蘭傑里的央央大度及浪漫抒情,Zimmerman實在感覺到是非常秀氣了。但是光是聽觸鍵就相當值得,雖然他是那麼個人主義特異的。

1992年的現場錄音質素是DG示範級的!!! Steinway 鋼琴像在眼前般重現, 您有興趣買嗎?



george1977
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[#1507] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
若選購貝多芬三重協奏曲的最佳版本, 首推錄於1968年的卡拉揚 (Herbert von Karajan)/羅斯托波維奇 (Mitslav Rostropovich)/歐伊斯特拉夫 (David Oistrakh)/ 李希特(Sviatoslav Richter)的傳奇組合版本(企鵝評鑑三星帶花名盤、留聲機首選歷史錄音) , 是競奏型的代表作, 四大天王以高超的技藝互相拼出火花, 卡拉揚曾口出狂言說:「讓老子用柏林愛樂浸死你們這群蘇聯豬!」,絃樂鋼琴樂團之間的對話充滿濃列的火藥味, 刺激非常!

相反帕爾曼(Itzhak Perlman)馬友友(Yo Yo Ma)巴倫波因(Daniel Barenboim)的組合帶來的卻是人文氣息的, 每組樂P與樂團之間的對談充滿優雅與哲理, 過程既有競奏的火花,亦有謙謙君子的合作, 乍聽之下還以為在聽室樂合奏, 溫柔似水的小提琴聲襯托著剛勁的大提琴聲, 加上磈麗莊嚴的鋼琴聲, 與柏林愛樂水乳交融的演奏, 確是美不勝枚, 今聽者有繞樑三日之感! 末段搭子的「合唱幻想曲」更是錦上添花, 巴倫波因卓越的琴技加上成熟的指揮風格(記住!他是邊彈琴邊指揮,簡直是揮灑自如!), 加上柏林愛樂者樂及合唱團精湛而無可匹敵的演奏水平,我認為是近年難得一見的高水準現場音樂會, 此曲只應天上有!!,有興趣者可觀看近年剛再版的DVD現場錄像!


george1977
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2007-08-31 18:45
[#1508] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
>>1992年的現場錄音質素是DG示範級的!!!

You sure is 1992 live recording? Bernstein passed away in 1990 wor....
WFC
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2007-08-31 19:24
[#1509] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Good evening George1977 兄,

若選購貝多芬三重協奏曲的最佳版本, 首推錄於1968年的卡拉揚 (Herbert von Karajan)/羅斯托波維奇 (Mitslav Rostropovich)/歐伊斯特拉夫 (David Oistrakh)/ 李希特(Sviatoslav Richter)的傳奇組合版本 >

Interestingly, Richter holds that this recording is an utter failure, and he disowns it. He thinks that Karajan is to blame.

See my messages in "Any classical fans here" two years ago, from 05-03-13 23:40 onwards.
trollope
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2007-08-31 19:33
[#1510] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
george 1977,

Thank you for you valuable comment, I actually have a DVD of Barenboim/ Perlman/ Ma playing Beethoven's triple concerto, they are simply enjoying themselves.
chankaiming
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2007-08-31 19:34
[#1511] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Recently my house-removal allowed me to discover a LP of Richter (but my dad's turntable could not play at all) playing Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto No.2,a live recording of Salzburg in 1971 issued by Europadisc and Suraphon jointly but I could not find neither CD nor LP relevant information in Trovar.com given by doctorjohn, Trollope, have you ever heard of this version >

No, I know not the existence of a third commercially available recording of Richter's Rach2 besides the Sanderling (Melodiya etc) and the Wislocki (DG etc).

If you visit trovar.com again, you will see a note there warning us that Melodiya has issued on LP more than once Richter's Rach2 actually not played by him. Eurodisc used to be the Western arm of Melodiya. Hence ...

trollope
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2007-08-31 19:54
[#1512] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Anyone bought this new re-issue version??

hercules
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2007-08-31 20:54
[#1513] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
I was given this set as a gift by a colleague about nine years ago. Thoroughly enjoyable, and the sound is remarkably clear and atmospheric.

Clara Haskil: The Legacy Volume 1 Chamber Music
1. Beethoven: The Complete Sonatas for Violin and Piano
2. Mozart: 6 Violin Sonatas, K.301, 304, 376, 378, 454, 526
Clara Haskil (piano) / Arthur Grumiaux (violin) [1956-1958]
Philips 442 625-2: ADD (stereo / mono) 1994 (5 CDs)
trollope
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2007-08-31 21:18
[#1514] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
This set no longer in catalog.. can't buy!!
hercules
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2007-08-31 21:55
[#1515] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
I have the old version of Beethoven violin sonata and Mozart violin sonata palyed by Haskil/ Grumiaux, I must say that this duo was one of the most intimate, well balanced violin piano duo in the history, Haskil was a master of Beethoven and Mozart at that time already, Grumiaux however was only a young violinist who was unknown to the musical world. But their collaboration bring out the strength of their partner, their Beethoven was far superior to Oistrakh and Oborin's version, even though their recording was in mono, you hardly notice it.

Now Beethoven violin sonata is on Brilliant classic for a bargain price.

chankaiming
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2007-08-31 23:23
[#1516] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
HI Chankaiming:

I know Brilliant classics re-issue this, but Universal made it available again, and I have the two CD of Mozart already, I would like to know any one in hong kong have this set or not...and also the transfer quality...

It's 1958 late mono recording, not affect the listening experience too much..
hercules
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2007-08-31 23:38
[#1517] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Judging from my 3 CD set issued more than tens years ago, it is not a audiophil item, the violin are right in you face and piano at far back, but the artistry of this set make me come back to it again and again even though I have other set by Oistrakh and one disc by Perlman/ Ashkenazy.
chankaiming
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2007-08-31 23:46
[#1518] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Among the 3 complete sets I often listen to:

Oistrakh / Oborin

The 1962 recording ages well, though the approach to keep the two instruments audibly apart takes a bit of getting used to.

Perlman / Ashkenazy

I bought this complete set (4 CDs) in the Decca "Ovation" series (421 452) released in 1988 many years ago. It's a treasurable set, one which I often return to. Very fresh, lovely style.


Grumiaux / Haskil

A reading of great warmth and humanity.
trollope
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2007-09-01 00:08
[#1519] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
BTW, is the Schneiderhan / Kempff (DG) good?
trollope
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2007-09-01 00:11
[#1520] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
I don't have the complete set of Perlman/ Ashkenazy, but only their `Spring' and `Kreutzer' sonata, my view may be biased.

I found their playing to be very good but I found Ashkenazy too heavy handed occasionally in `Spring' sonata , Haskil was lighter more Mozartian.

Perlman/ Ashkenazy was really excellant in `Kreutzer' sonata and their `heart to sleeve' stormy approach suit the music well, their version are the best out of the three version I have.

chankaiming
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[#1521] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
I think this is one of the commercially available recording of Richter's Rach2 Trollope has mentioned.
Richter/Sanderling/Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra on Melodiya

A club-Sonderauflage edition from Hifi show a few weeks ago.

erictang
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2007-09-01 01:34
[#1522] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
只見星星耀眼
不聞音樂和諧

lym
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[#1523] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    


lym
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[#1524] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
這個較合我心

lym
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[#1525] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
in EMI, i prefer the Beethoven Triple Concerto by Oistrakh Trio/PO/Sargent, more warmth and musical.
hercules
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