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| [#1526] What are you listening to? ( classical mus Slightly less than four months after the Richter + Oistrakh + Rostropovich + Karajan + BPO version of Beethoven’s Triple Concerto was made, the three Russsians were joined by Kondrashin + Moscow Philharmonic to re-record the piece. This 1970 version can be found in EMI's 13-CD set "Rostropovich – The Russian Years" (1997). I don't have it. Can anybody say a few words about the performance and the recorded sound please? Thank you.  |
trollope 正式會員202.xxx.xxx.133 |
2007-09-01 11:19 | |
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| [#1527] What are you listening to? ( classical mus 沙展's version  |
lym 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.90 |
2007-09-01 11:20 |
| [#1528] What are you listening to? ( classical mus Of all the 5 versions Beethoven Triple Concerto that I have , i still like the Oistrakh, Richter,Rostrpovich, Karajan most cause this is the 1st copy I got, being attracted by the stars,and listen to them most often. I like the intensity, the dynamics,the fire power and conflict exhibited by the individual players and the conductor,which I think suit the character of Beethoven most. |
kh33 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.177 |
2007-09-01 11:29 |
| [#1529] What are you listening to? ( classical mus 正在第一次用心聽 "邊個邊個" 兄評曰 "百聽不厭" (07-07-24 09:14) 的版本。 Arrau / Szeryng / Starker / New Philharmonia Orchestra / Eliahu Inbal [Watford Town Hall, 1970] 真係幾正。  |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.133 |
2007-09-01 12:19 |
| [#1530] What are you listening to? ( classical mus trollope兄： enjoy!.....:-) |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-09-01 14:52 |
| [#1531] What are you listening to? ( classical mus It is a pleasure seeing this thread flourishing. I observe that the recent focus has been on the greats of the past generation. Whilst this is understandable given their importance in shaping the style of performance in the recent music history, I would like to turn our attention to performances of those artists who are shaping the the style of this present generation. With the decline in the classical music industry as a whole, the present artists perhaps need more support from us music lovers. By way of an example, the partnership of Rene Jacob and the Freiburger Barockorchester at Harmonia Mundi shows that even popular repretorie can be performed differently yet convincingly so long as the musicans are willing to see music through the mordern eyes. Amongst many of their highly accalimed recordings (like the Mozart operas, for example), their latest recording of the two Mozart symphonies is an excellent example of how well-known music can be re-created and sound as if it was music of our own time. This, I believe, is what makes classical music a living art. No doubt, great recordings of the past are fundamental to our listening behaviour, I simply think that great recordings by artists of our time should be recommended with equal warmth.  |
minpin 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.74 |
2007-09-02 03:07 |
| [#1532] What are you listening to? ( classical mus minpin, Thank you for your comment, I share the same opinion with you. Although Richter, Arrau, Oistrakh, Heifetz, Gilels, Grumiaux were great musician, they were no longer alive and we can only remember them base on those vintage records. I am unfortunately that I cannot hear them live. Violinist today actually practice hard and anyone of them can play as good as Heifetz, Hiliay Hahn's live performance of Brahms violin concerto with HKPO always reminded me of Grumiaux, while Vengerov's playing of Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, Shostakovich on record are at least equal to, if not surpass the playing of Oistrakh. If you love Kempff, Perahia can played as fluent and inspirational; if you love Richter, you can listen to Zimerman, his playing are individual and insightful. However, pianists now a days are too conservative, I am afraid no one would play like Horowitz. |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.106 |
2007-09-02 10:40 |
| [#1533] What are you listening to? ( classical mus Another cycle of Beethoven violin sonata that I enjoy much,besides those mentioned, is by Karl Suske and Walter Olbertz, a 4 LP set from Eterna label. Unfortunately it is also a recording from the past, being made in 1969. Suske and Olbertz are prominent artist in Eastern Europe, though lesser known in the west, with impeccable technique. Their approach to Beethoven sonata were fresh, straightforeward and no-nonsense. The recording sound is natural with the right balance between the violin and piano. |
kh33 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.147 |
2007-09-02 11:35 |
| [#1534] What are you listening to? ( classical mus Suske is OK. kh33 (does not listen to CD) is not update about CD issues, Most of Suske's recordings have been re-issued on CD by EDEL/Berlin Classics (Shun Cheong). The pic shows the Mozart set. Anyone not listening to CD deprives himself of a lot of software.  |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.59 |
2007-09-02 11:48 |
| [#1535] What are you listening to? ( classical mus All classical fans, It is a great pleasure to meet with you on line every day, but is it a good idea to getting know each other in a meeting somewhere in Hong Kong? Doctorjohn, I am inexperience in organizing a meeting, can you give us some advice? Can we have some home visit? |
chankaiming 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.106 |
2007-09-02 12:47 |
| [#1536] What are you listening to? ( classical mus DJ, I still have quite a no. of LP that I do not have enough time to listen and I also have quite a number of lp that I would like to acquire. Most important, I do not enjoy music playing from my cd system, as Benyc used to say, it sucks. |
kh33 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.23 |
2007-09-02 12:48 |
| [#1537] What are you listening to? ( classical mus CKM, Home visit is always welcome, anytime, any place. |
kh33 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.23 |
2007-09-02 12:50 |
| [#1538] Incomplete Triple trollope: Thanks for mentioning this. I just listened to it several times, and what a pleasant experience. When I pulled it out, to my chagrin I found the glossy paper sleeves were stuck to each other. Pulling them apart results in a little damage. :-( Unfortunately, the "Russian Years" CD8 has only the FIRST movement of the Triple. The recordimg is clear, but lean. The performance is of great temparature. Oistrakh is more passionate and digs in a little more than usual. Rostropovich is his romantic and fiery young self. The exchange between the strings has a real dialogue feel. Richter's contribution is lean and sparse, but he leaps in sometimes much like the pianist should in Schubert's Trout, sparkling and alive (some passages feels exactly like in a good Trout). The accompaniment is fine. I'd say a tight and exciting performance, and in 1 movement worth its weight more than the usual 3. The notes are written by Rostropovich himself: "The recording of the first movement of Beethoven's Triple Concerto was made after a memorable performance in January 1970, during the most stressful period of my life. Even today I vividly recall my own excitement and the tension in the audience, for the occasion was of the utmost historical and musical importance. Some explanation is necessary: on the way to the airport at the start of a tour of western Europe in 1969, I posted a letter in support of Alexander Solzhenitsyn to four national newspapers. As the plane was taking off I knew I was beginning another unknown chapter of my life, one that would not only affect thew future of my family, but also my conscience. Two weeks of the tour passed uneventfully and my anxiety began to ease, esepcially as my wife told me on the phoine that everything was quiet at home. However, one evening just before a concert at the Austrian town of Bregenz, I was beseiged by a crowd of phtographers and reporters. Suspecting what must have happened, I declined to answer any questions, but after the concert my suspicions were confirmed when I was shown translations of my letter in English, French, Spanish and German. Three men were waiting for me in their black Volga car outside my hotel, and asked to speak to me in my room. I confirmed that I was thew author of the letter (as the KGB still hoped that it was a provocation), and I was permitted to continue with my tour. In Moscow, meanwhile, there was an atmosphere of disquiet, and because the Soviet authorities were worried that I might not return, they instructed diplomats from their embassies in Berlin, Madrid and Paris to pacify me and to assure me that there was absolutely nothing to worry about. Almost immediately after returning to Moscow, I was due to play Beethoven's Triple Concerto with Richter and Oistrakh, but during my tour the functionaries in charge of music had demanded my replacement. Richter and Oistrakh refused (ostensibly on the grounds of insufficient reherasal time), so the concert was cancelled. But as soon as rumors spread that the cancellation was connceted with my publshed letter, the authorities bowed to pressure and allowed the concert to proceed, having postponed it for a week. I was full of gratitude for my colleagues' firm stance, and although the consequences of my support for Solzhenitzhen were soon to cause me great suffering, this performance of Beethoven's Triple Concerto will always remain in my memory. Those who witnessed the concert remmebered it to this day, for it was an occasion when music (at elast temporarily) had won over oppresssion." Rostropovich made no mention of why there was only 1 movement. If there are other issues of the rest of the perfromance, please let me know! This CD box is harder to get now. Should you desire a CD-R copy, please do not hesitate to PM me an address for me to send it to. Cheers. |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.59 |
2007-09-02 13:19 |
| [#1539] What are you listening to? ( classical mus CKM, Home visit is always welcome, anytime, any place. x 2 |
erictang 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.155 |
2007-09-02 22:00 |
| [#1540] What are you listening to? ( classical mus Happy Hour sometime? |
doctorjohn 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.99 |
2007-09-03 05:09 |
| [#1541] What are you listening to? ( classical mus CKM, Trollope, Doctorjohn, hercules, lym, Thank for your contribution and enlightenment, your information helps me to know more the background story of those vintage recording, so educational this thread!! George1977 |
george1977 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.94 |
2007-09-03 09:24 |
| [#1542] What are you listening to? ( classical mus 早晨.... 比較輕可的精品序曲。最突出是Kleiber指的Freischutz (Weber)，令人有一種觸電的感覺。  |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-09-03 09:36 |
| [#1543] What are you listening to? ( classical mus minpin兄提醒了我們另一種視野 -- 音樂、演奏與時代應有的結合。 但在這個資本化、市場化、單一化、即食快壑う漲~代，天才和個性很易就被磨平埋沒。往往是故弄玄虛、欺世盜名的假大師多，有真材實料者卻寥若晨星。 |
邊個邊個 正式會員 158.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-09-03 09:56 |
| [#1544] What are you listening to? ( classical mus Listen to Kissin last night with the following program: CD1：舒伯特六首藝術歌曲李斯特改編之鋼琴版本 / 舒伯特「流浪者」幻想曲 / 布拉姆斯《幻想曲, 作品116 / 李斯特《第12匈牙利狂想曲》 CD2：柴可夫斯基《第一鋼琴協奏曲》" / 巴赫《西西里調》 / 貝多芬《合唱幻想曲》# / 格魯克《旋律》（改編自歌劇《奧菲歐與尤麗狄絲》中的「幸福幽靈之舞」） Kissin makes the paino singing at the time of playing the Liszt/Schubert Transcription and Gluck's "Melody" (The Dance of Blessed Spirit) is played with utmost vituosity and transcendental musical expression. Beethoven's Choral Fantasy was portrayed with color and full force of the orchestra and all the drama and structural integrity which Abbado and BPO have given their best rapport. The playing of Hungarian Rhapsody proves Kissin's prodigious fluency with superior fingerwork and trail-blazing temperament! A stunning performance where justify his success. The live Tchaikovsky recoording under the baton of Karajan was played in a heavy-hearted with utter romantique, string section of BPO is mellifluous but the overwhelming "karajan sound" outshines the dazzling playing of kissin, an interpretation strongly led by conductor instead of the pianist, though the demonstration quality sound is so enjoyable.  |
george1977 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.94 |
2007-09-03 10:06 |
| [#1545] What are you listening to? ( classical mus doctorjohn 兄， 非常感謝你花時間打字，提供了我未知的資料。聽說 Toshiba-EMI 也出過這個 all-Russian 版本的 Triple Concerto，不過也是只有第一樂章，what a big gap in the history of recorded music！CD-R 之事，不急；況且小事不想勞煩 = 遲些累積了一堆再相求，不遲也。 minpin 兄， 兄台真是有心人，所言大中至正，Fred Plotkin在他的 "Classical Music Unbuttoned" (London: Aurum Press, 2003) 也說過類似的話，可是知之不難，行之不易啊。名家之為名家，經典之為經典，都有十數年以至數十年的口碑支持，儼然情理俱在的格局；而且很多名家的經典錄音，近年紛紛以中價甚至廉價版推出，惹人漁獵之甚。相比起來，樂壇當代紅人的新唱片，錄音雖然幾乎肯定優於經典名盤，然而也幾乎全都以正價發售；至於演奏水平，其中固然不乏匠心獨運、一新氣象的妙品，但也很有可能有時會錯買了一些太生新甚或太陳熟的演繹，不免敗興。因此一般樂迷買新錄音都會較小心，如果是新人的唱片，更可能是因為某些「賣點」的刺激而買下的，彈無虛發，越發不易。 其實，在如今大廠壟斷的局面，有點年資的樂迷，大可以多留意細廠雜廠的出品，很多 underrepresented 的好錄音都值得一聽，也不乏廉價的名盤再版。 當代名家中，你提到的 Renm Jacobs 我也很欣賞。他的 "Orfeo ed Euridice" 和 "Coss fan tutte" 不是波瀾壯闊、舉目千里的那種，卻充滿細緻的韻味，時而非常「生猛」，顯見 Jacobs 充滿上下求索的熱忱，更能孜孜經營。倘有餘資，會買他的 "Giulio Cesare" (Handel) 和 "Orpheus" (Telemann) 來細聽。 至於鋼琴唱片，Ashkenazy 的巴哈 WTC 我非常滿意，吐屬溫婉，沒買錯，全套三碟也只費 $210，沒買貴。Barenboim 的那一套我也心動，卻有點怕他會有些「巧句」，其實呢還是因為要等銀行存摺來通知何時可以二讀三讀通過。說得「其辭若有憾焉」，可是 Perahia 再出貝多芬奏鳴曲之時，又是我財散樂樂之日。情不知所起，一往而深，湯顯祖說的是我。 現正在聽的唱片是 Tharaud 彈的蕭邦圓舞曲，頗昂貴，但真是好聽又好聲。Tharaud 彈來不見滯累，不作纏綿悱惻之狀。例如第三首 A minor (Op. 34 No.2) ，情味淡雅，宛爾成章，非常耐聽，有才氣又肯忍手，是有修養的表現。古人論詩，說「能忍不能忍，其力之大小可知」，說的大概就是這種內斂的氣派。  |
trollope 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.133 |
2007-09-03 10:48 |
