兩聲道
CD機 | MD機 | SACD機 | DAC | CAS | 合拼擴音機 | 前級擴音機 | 後級擴音機 | 接線 | 喇叭線 | 揚聲器 | 耳機 | 耳機擴音機 | LP產品 | 膽機產品 | 開卷式錄音機 | 音響配件 | DIY音響 | 電源 | 家庭影院
電視機 | 投影機 | 錄影機 | DVD影碟機 | Blu-ray影碟機 | 多媒體播放器 | 機頂盒 | 多聲道擴音機 | 多聲道揚聲器 | 多聲道影音組合 | Mini音響組合 | 重低音揚聲器 | 輔助設備 | 同好會
同好會 | Accuphase | B&W | Burmester | Denon | Jadis | KEF | KRELL | Luxman | Marantz | Nuforce | OPPO | Pioneer | TEAC | WEISS | News
News | Blog | 其他
其他 | 所有 |
| 影音天地主旨 ﹝請按主旨作出回應﹞ 上頁 下頁 首頁 尾頁 | 寄件者 | 傳送日期
|
| [#17032] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user What's a pair of beauty to my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() |
Gingers 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-10-23 17:41 | |
|
|
|||
| [#17033] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Colin What method will you take to give this pair of beauty a bath?? John ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.190 |
2007-10-23 19:46 |
| [#17034] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user This may be one of the most stunning pair in town :-) ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.190 |
2007-10-23 19:47 |
| [#17035] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user The wing is amazing :-) ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.190 |
2007-10-23 19:48 |
| [#17036] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Colin Please share the progress when you restore it :-) ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.190 |
2007-10-23 19:49 |
| [#17037] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user that is the picture. the side was rusty and you painted them. if the polish is conductive, you will short the laminations. ----------------------------- For those who do not yet know what was actually meant by the above statement, it should be elaborated. Laminates are sheets of steel cut into "E" and "I" (or other shapes for other types of transformers). The sort of steel sheets that are good for making transformers should satify two basic requirements: (a) highly permeable to magnetic flux to contain as much magnetic energy as possible, and (b) highly resistive to electricity so that localized electric current on one laminate (due to cutting magnet flux by the laminate) cannot flow to the other laminate, and eventually, short the circuit to consume and waste magnetic energy. For the purpose of (b), the common laminate, Z11, for example, for power supply transformers has a layer of oxide (grey in colour) on both sides of it. The metal oxide is non-conductive of electricity. When rested laminates are cleaned, the metal part of laminates is exposed. If shoe polish actually conducts electricity, all the laminates are to some extent short-circuited by the shoe polish. That power supply transformer will be hotter and the amp will sound like lacking force. That output transformer will sound poor as if the entire amp is downgraded. But of course, we should make sure if shoe polish or another substance used in restoration is also good for purposes other than cosmetic. Cheers! ![]() |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-23 22:59 |
| [#17038] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Ace - Thanks for sharing! I believe the toughness of the fibre board used for my "BLACK" tag boards make it bullet-proof. I actually cannot break a piece with bare hands. LEAK phenolic boards would have been broken several times already. |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-23 23:06 |
| [#17039] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user It could be innovative to use 膠水 instead of soldering tin! Not kidding. ------------------------------------------ Richard Thanks for sharing. May I know which 膠水 is your best choice? John |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.190 |
2007-10-23 23:34 |
| [#17040] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Gingers, First of all, you need to know what is contained by the "paste" before use. I have not yet tried and will not try because I am not innovative enough. :) |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-23 23:40 |
| [#17041] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user I believe the toughness of the fibre board used for my "BLACK" tag boards make it bullet-proof. I actually cannot break a piece with bare hands. LEAK phenolic boards would have been broken several times already. ------------------------------------------- Will the "BLACK" tag boards also improve the sound?? I am thinking if both "BLACK" tag boards and LEAK phenolic boards work good, the difference of sound performance should not be too obvious. |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.190 |
2007-10-23 23:44 |
| [#17042] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Gingers, You are right there should not be sonic change due to fibre boards (instead of phenolic boards). It is NOT the purpose for using fibre boards. The only reason is fibre board has better heat tolerance and do not break easily. |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-23 23:50 |
| [#17043] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user If shoe polish actually conducts electricity, all the laminates are to some extent short-circuited by the shoe polish. That power supply transformer will be hotter and the amp will sound like lacking force. That output transformer will sound poor as if the entire amp is downgraded. ----------------------------------------- Richard Your words really scared me. BTW, are you sure the shoe polish conducts electricity? I always see there is a "IF" in your sentences, i.e. If shoe polish actually conducts electricity...etc. You know, my heart is not as strong as my body looks. And you know I am quite proud of my 25A. Apart from emphasizing my method is innovative, please don't scare me :-) Anyways, I am still grateful to you for your sharing :-) |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.74 |
2007-10-24 00:13 |
| [#17044] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user ginger, the polish definitely conducts electricity. i tested it just now. having said that the resistance is still pretty high in the region of 1-2Mohm. so as far eddy current is concerned, i think it should be o.k. |
drwkng 203.xxx.xxx.238 |
2007-10-24 00:17 |
| [#17045] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user having said that the resistance is still pretty high in the region of 1-2Mohm. so as far eddy current is concerned ------------------------------------ King Sorry. I did not understnad. Are you saying that the shoe polish may do harm to the transformers. I am grateful to you for conducting a test on the shoe polish. I can see you are a guy can make use of living example to support what you had said. John |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.74 |
2007-10-24 00:35 |
| [#17046] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Good night He is handsome, isn't he?? :-) ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.74 |
2007-10-24 00:47 |
| [#17047] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Gingers, I actually don't have any shoe polish and the "IF" is for you to find out and to learn not to take risk. :) |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-24 00:52 |
| [#17048] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Typo, should read: ..and to learn to avoid risk. |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-24 00:55 |
| [#17049] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user having said that the resistance is still pretty high in the region of 1-2Mohm. so as far eddy current is concerned ------------------------------------ Output transformer may be more sensitive to such leakage. Any comments from the cow experts? :) |
rcwy 221.xxx.xxx.224 |
2007-10-24 00:59 |
| [#17050] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user I actually don't have any shoe polish and the "IF" is for you to find out and to learn not to take risk. ---------------------------------------- Good morning Last night I had a dream. A shoe shine boy, he has to struggle for his living everyday. Although he is poor, he is happy. He told me in the dream that the rich persons need not to buy any shoe polish to polish their shoes themselves. All they do is to step on others with their shining shoes. One day a rich person came and blamed the shoe shine boy's shoe polish is a poison, leaking into his shoes and caused him lacking force and sound poor when he sings. The shoe shine boy denied and explained, saying he had used this brandname of shoe polish several years already. His shoe polish is working fine. He asked the rich why the shoe polish is a poison in a soft tone. However, the rich only shouted to the poor shoe shine boy in an ordering tone that he has no shoe polish, it is the responsibility for the shoe shine boy to find out and to learn that his shoe polish is poisonous................................................................ A dream to share. Please don't ask me the ending as I wake up already :-) John ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.26 |
2007-10-24 06:55 |
| [#17051] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user Different ears, different tastes and different approaches ----------------------------------- Hi all Thanks a lot to all of you to share your views on a small layer of shoe polish topic. In fact, in the dream I also talked with Mr. Harold Leak who also reminded me not to apply the shoe polish on the transformers as he also thought that the poor shoe polish insulted his proud UK blue blood, elegant image of 12.1 :-( ![]() |
Gingers 221.xxx.xxx.26 |
2007-10-24 07:22 |