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| [#1] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 我套LO-FI每次播交響樂效果都不好, 樂器分離不足...一嚿嚿. 但播其他類型音樂OK. |
interlock 正式會員223.xxx.xxx.234 |
2011-09-21 21:14 | |
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| [#2] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 個人覺得音樂感、節奏、感情起伏同意境營造難播過動態同分格度...！ |
Pilotrol 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.65 |
2011-09-21 21:18 |
| [#3] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 我估大部分人套HiFi 都會係咁。 |
T.K.T 正式會員 110.xxx.xxx.64 |
2011-09-21 21:19 |
| [#4] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 A few points for sharing 1) the playback requirements for symphonies and pops are different. For pop music, the sound can be "tuned" to bias towards your personal preferences, for instance, with some emphasis on the vocals. For symphony, the sound should better be more neutral - and some c-hings will then comment that the pop music playback becomes too neutral and "tasteless" 2)In general, symphonies playback demands proper matching and setup of all components end-to-end. The best classic recordings can easily expose the weakest link in your system. Go for live classic concerts will definitely help your judgements 3)You need to choose the right classical pieces for playback. There are many cases the conductor and orhestra are great, but the performance is bad, or the recording itself is bad. For instance, if the recording quality is great, but the performance is below par, the music could sound boring. 4) Try to learn from experienced c-hings to locate some real nice classic CDs to start with... Probably try starting with the easy stuffs, such as Concertos & chamber music, then gradually exploring the difficult pieces, such as Symphonies, Operas, etc... 5) Soundstage is an important element for Classical music playback. The listening environment and the speakers positioning are particularly important in this case. 6)A rule of thumb - bookshelf speakers can handle relatively light classics or symphonies that require a smaller scale orchestra. Floor-standing speakers and bigger spaces are always preferrable for the big symphonies ... Happy Listening!! 最後修改時間: 2011-09-21 22:14:41 |
faimiu 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.190 |
2011-09-21 22:04 |
| [#5] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 good insight faimiu i like to add a few: """1) the playback requirements for symphonies and pops are different. For pop music, the sound can be "tuned" to bias towards your personal preferences, for instance, with some emphasis on the vocals. For symphony, the sound should better be more neutral - and some c-hings will then comment that the pop music playback becomes too neutral and "tasteless"""" recording techniques very different for pop and for orchestral music. placement of microphones, multi track recording and remixing can have very different outcomes. """2)In general, symphonies playback demands proper matching and setup of all components end-to-end. The best classic recordings can easily expose the weakest link in your system. Go for live classic concerts will definitely help your judgements""" very high end equipment can handle full spectrum 20 to 20khz. organ music can easily go down lower than 50hz while most systems cannot handle this. also above 16khz there are not many tweeters handle the highs without much distortions. """3)You need to choose the right classical pieces for playback. There are many cases the conductor and orhestra are great, but the performance is bad, or the recording itself is bad. For instance, if the recording quality is great, but the performance is below par, the music could sound boring.""" there are threads in software section recommending good recordings with good performance. """4) Try to learn from experienced c-hings to locate some real nice classic CDs to start with... Probably try starting with the easy stuffs, such as Concertos & chamber music, then gradually exploring the difficult pieces, such as Symphonies, Operas, etc...""" the trend is playing hi rez music files not limited to 16/44 format """5) Soundstage is an important element for Classical music playback. The listening environment and the speakers positioning are particularly important in this case.""" room size and acoustic treatments will play a part. if limited then use headphone and compare the differences. """6)A rule of thumb - bookshelf speakers can handle relatively light classics or symphonies that require a smaller scale orchestra. Floor-standing speakers and bigger spaces are always preferrable for the big symphonies ...""" yes to get full 20 - 20khz u cannot expect 2 way or even 3 way speakers can handle with ease. |
cpu8088 正式會員 115.xxx.xxx.214 |
2011-09-22 08:09 |
| [#6] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 Classical symphony is complicated in texture and have lots of things going on. On top of it, the freq range is wide. These all add up and make it handle well by HiFi. Yet, to me, the main reason symphony is a benchmark is that this is also one of the few genre of music which does not involve amplification in live. Thus, if one is familar with live concert of such, one can develop his own preference/sound-right standard with lesser variables. |
BenYC 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.178 |
2011-09-22 10:55 |
| [#7] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 Very good sharing from previous c-hing. I would like to add a few cents too. Source player plays an important role for classical playback. In short, pop music are less complicated and can be easily handled by most sub $20k CD players. Classical music has wider frequency coverage and more affected by soundstage performance, thus a better quality player is a must! Hi resolution formats like FLAC and SACD also have more signification improvement than their pop music counterparts. |
Royal Horse 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.229 |
2011-09-22 11:45 |
| [#8] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 SBY said the 3 types of music can test the performance of the Hi-Fi Set-up: 1. Piano; 2. Chinese Music Instrument; 3. One Vocal music Most of the people said Piano is the most difficult task to a Hi-Fi system, maybe more difficult than a Orchestra Music. Orchestra music mainly consists of Strings, Flute & Horn. Piano can play more than that. That's why Piano never be the Orchestra system, but Concertos ONLY. For Chinese Music Instruments, 2nd, 3rd or 4th Harmonic wave appear on one single Music Note. Instead, Western Music Instrument play almost pure note. That's why Orchestra music can play the harmonic melody, while Chinese music orchestra cannot. For a Hi-Fi system, it is more difficult for playing Good Chinese Music. Compare with these two type of music, I think Orchestra music is more easy to play, BUT I do not mean it is a easy task. |
skhosam 正式會員 121.xxx.xxx.200 |
2011-09-22 13:00 |
| [#9] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 western orchestral music, like stravinsky the rite of spring, has vast dynamic range. similarly chinese orchestral music the same. these big dynamic range may not easily be captured by 16/44 cds when compare with live. with piano music u just look for tonal accuracy, transients, attacks, decays and harmonics 最後修改時間: 2011-09-22 13:31:06 |
cpu8088 正式會員 115.xxx.xxx.214 |
2011-09-22 13:30 |
| [#10] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 Piano is an interesting topic - in terms of playback First, many people have chances to listen to the real piano in multiple circumstances and they are familiar with the sound characteristics. Therefore they are more able to spot the differences if there are deficiencies in the playback system. Second, piano is a single instrument that covers a wide frequency spectrum. Each note have rich harmonics. It is a good test of the coherency of the sound coming out from the speakers. Third, some piano music can have large dynamic range and transients (it also depends on the performer) that could be challenging as well 最後修改時間: 2011-09-22 14:06:21 |
faimiu 正式會員 192.xxx.xxx.193 |
2011-09-22 14:05 |
| [#11] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 Forth, different pianos (and manufacturers) sounds differently. Even cheap stuffs like Yamaha and Roland, they have completely different properties and approaches like Denon vs Onkyo...... |
Royal Horse 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.229 |
2011-09-22 15:25 |
| [#12] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 most of the instrument are difficult to replay - if you can ge 60% being like real, it's already very successful. Of them, I think the most difficult replay instrument are guitars and drums guitars - most playback are thicker strangs and lack of texture , course drums - many huge , but completely off-box is not easy if you have dynamic |
diytfy 正式會員 155.xxx.xxx.45 |
2011-09-22 15:48 |
| [#13] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 如用胆機,後級由EL34改KT88會否好啲? |
interlock 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.254 |
2011-09-23 13:00 |
| [#14] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 for tube amplification...it is no use.... |
raychow830 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.248 |
2011-09-23 13:07 |
| [#15] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 What gears are you using ? A typical symphony has 100+ persons playing differnt instruments so it is a big task. Your gear's resolution power is important, the recording is important too (microphone placing technique, SACD etc). PS: if yours is a Chinese tube amp, then tubes would not make too much difference as usually Chinese tube amps' transformers may not be up to task. |
Kenny 正式會員 146.xxx.xxx.21 |
2011-09-23 13:11 |
| [#16] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 My humble opinion that Tubes Amps that are capable to playback big symphonies should be very costly these days - as it demands for both speed, accuracy and power. Yet I never doubt the contribution of Tubes equipment, especially when many many outstanding performances and recordings in classical music history are coming from the 50's and 60's . Salute to the great sound engineers of that time , they are very capable to capture the essence of the musical messages conveyed by the great performers! |
faimiu 正式會員 192.xxx.xxx.193 |
2011-09-23 13:52 |
| [#17] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 "symphony has 100+ persons playing differnt instruments " For that reason, most of the setups are suck , unreal , narrow , artificial, blooming, lean, annoying, unbalancing, wrong image layout...... ^__^ |
diytfy 正式會員 155.xxx.xxx.45 |
2011-09-23 15:43 |
| [#18] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 播交響樂，唔單只對Hi-Fi系統有相當要求，還對房間佈局有要求。 |
edn 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.195 |
2011-09-24 11:33 |
| [#19] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 交響樂的層次感, 3D立體音場 + 3D立體結像 + 音樂感、節奏、感情起伏同意境營造...加起來才是玩HiFi最高境界!!! |
7308 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.3 |
2011-09-24 12:01 |
| [#20] 交響樂重播是否最考起HI-FI性能之高低 空間大小 , 喇叭及箱體設計 , 是否有大功率提升控制 力水 , 200 呎 空間同 500 呎 , 容量下之重播分别也 可分別很大 , 氣勢也全不一樣 , 音式及分識力較高而又 比較全面的器材 , 更佳 . |
kyc9 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.124 |
2011-09-25 10:56 |
