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| [#1] 請教改位聴歌 各位前輩師兄， 我家快要全屋裝修，我想大改但又怕捉蟲。 我用krell 前後級，b&w 802s2 為主。 附圖1為現時setting,我想將全套搬去飯廳，將開放廚房封牆，改廚房門位如圖2。 左右牆距282cm，就算偷廚房位亦只去到290cm。 改動好大亦不能復原，所以心大心細，希望各位有經驗前輩師兄俾啲意見，多謝！  最後修改時間: 2014-09-10 17:02:13 |
tscc 正式會員223.xxx.xxx.131 |
2014-09-10 16:45 | |
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| [#2] 請教改位聴歌 原位  |
tscc 正式會員 223.xxx.xxx.131 |
2014-09-10 16:57 |
| [#3] 請教改位聴歌 細房用802，師兄高手黎喎！ |
ckwan2014 正式會員 99.xxx.xxx.15 |
2014-09-10 19:46 |
| [#4] 請教改位聴歌 唔改好過改 |
gohkahteong 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.67 |
2014-09-10 22:36 |
| [#5] 請教改位聴歌 師兄,唔好笑我啦！ 係高手就唔駛問人啦。 |
Mcheng 正式會員 223.xxx.xxx.131 |
2014-09-10 22:39 |
| [#6] 請教改位聴歌 個朋友剛剛都係咁講，改咗都未必好。本來想搬過去試，但朋友話左面吧枱，後面有排櫃宜家都試唔真,真係頭痛因老婆想我套嘢歸一啲。唔該師兄意見! |
tscc 正式會員 223.xxx.xxx.131 |
2014-09-10 22:57 |
| [#7] 請教改位聴歌 鑽石型房間，可以用來主力聽 5.1 或 7.1，音場、音象要靠 5.1 或 7.1 的錄音方法及多聲道喇叭沿著多邊型房間擺放。 聽兩聲時要靠前置左右的一對主喇叭，左右兩邊盡量有相同及對稱的牆壁及空間，皇帝位要放近主喇叭以 near-field 來聽，但不要期望有正式二聲道放在左右對稱的長方型房間的表現水平，因為「鑽石型」不是為兩聲道音響重播還原，無計！ 因此，裝修時不要浪費金錢去改圖則，除非可以改到成為長方型才有意思去改！ 最後修改時間: 2014-09-11 00:48:47 |
rcwy 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.23 |
2014-09-11 00:41 |
| [#8] 請教改位聴歌 I am very curious. Your living room is not very small, despite its diamond shape. What are you dissatisfied with the current sound? Why do the change to a smaller semi-rectangular shape? Unbalanced sound field at present? 最後修改時間: 2014-09-11 01:11:17 |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-11 01:07 |
| [#9] 請教改位聴歌 Rcwy 兄， 多謝你的寶貴意見。師兄所言一語中矢，我現在就係要靠近喇叭嚟聽，才有比較好的效果，但音場有紐曲，所以想做一個長方形㕔，可惜皇帝位背後無法間牆。師兄經驗我應原用圖1（左右無牆）定係尚可改良圖2（現如改則亦只能做到左右喇叭可離牆一呎，喇叭相距六呎），會有機會改善嗎？ （我聽兩聲道而已），thanks again！ |
tscc 正式會員 223.xxx.xxx.131 |
2014-09-11 01:30 |
| [#10] 請教改位聴歌 如果搞得掂家人, 可以試試這喇叭擺位.  |
rcwy 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.25 |
2014-09-11 01:36 |
| [#11] 請教改位聴歌 如果真的搞得掂家人, 可以考慮拆去廚房改開放式及加一小幅由地至頂磚牆 (如圖), 要有 4"- 8" 厚的實心硬磚牆, 注意: 不是板間牆 !  最後修改時間: 2014-09-11 01:59:51 |
rcwy 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.25 |
2014-09-11 01:41 |
| [#12] 請教改位聴歌 可惜皇帝位背後無法間牆。 --------------------------- 放喇叭後面及左右兩側對稱, 重要過皇帝位後面對稱. 圖一及二都不是好, 你提議的新位最不佳. 趁裝之前, 試改喇叭擺位, 找出那個喇叭擺位比較上好聲 (用耳聽, 不是用眼睇!), 然後決定裝修, 應該離 #11 不會遠. |
rcwy 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.25 |
2014-09-11 01:55 |
| [#13] 請教改位聴歌 To zbigniew821 ching, thanks for the feedback. Yes, it took me quite a long time to solve the problem of unbalanced sound field (as I'm not a good player in HiFi field.) After many trials, it's getting better now. But no matter how I set the speakers & did acoustic treatment, I feel uncomfortable in my left ear esp., in high volume with strong bass. No idea if the high sound pressure is caused by the open kitchen or the bar table. So, when I say it's better b'cos I turn down the volume..haha I shouldn't say I solve it, I should say I live with it. I do hope a semi-rectangular shape could help. To rcwy ching, thanks for the advice. Any suggestion for the position of hifi set. |
tscc 正式會員 223.xxx.xxx.66 |
2014-09-11 02:08 |
| [#14] 請教改位聴歌 Any suggestion for the position of hifi set. ----------------------------------------- It does not matter. Just put your hifi rack at where vibration from speakers is the least. |
rcwy 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.25 |
2014-09-11 02:10 |
| [#15] 請教改位聴歌 Haha.. found this topic interesting.. Final suggestion before I go to bed. Just noted that you have open kitchen already. Now consider the following changes: move the working/cooking bench to the middle of the front wall, and keep the left and right corners of the front wall clear/unoccupied (or occupied by only light and small objects). Good luck!  最後修改時間: 2014-09-11 02:22:00 |
rcwy 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.25 |
2014-09-11 02:21 |
| [#16] 請教改位聴歌 thanks a lot! Glad to hear you found it interesting. 最後修改時間: 2014-09-11 02:46:18 |
tscc 正式會員 223.xxx.xxx.66 |
2014-09-11 02:43 |
| [#17] 請教改位聴歌 Morning! Would love to know your final decision! :) |
rcwy 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.25 |
2014-09-11 09:11 |
| [#18] 請教改位聴歌 Oh no kitchen to cook and speakers will be very smelly and oily !!!! I dont think it is practical. |
astronomer 正式會員 175.xxx.xxx.226 |
2014-09-11 09:29 |
| [#19] 請教改位聴歌 Note message #1, he is having open kitchen already, and it is time to redecorate the apartment. Think beyond the boundaries. Sound waves travel beyond open kitchen boundaries! Keeping the 4 corners at the front clear and straight will give the optimal bass this room may give. 4 corners: left upper and lower corners, right upper and lower corners. Given the width of the space, the two speakers at the approx position may need substantial toe-in, but it should be good in your case. You will need some wall carpet or curtains hanging on the bended sound wave passage behind the king's seat. The exact speakers placement positions should be explored along the L and R side-walls, gradually away from (or towards) the king's seat. It will be embarrassing and difficult if the best sounding position is blocking the door entrance! This will be the fine adjustment after redecoration. 最後修改時間: 2014-09-11 10:15:05 |
rcwy 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.24 |
2014-09-11 09:52 |
| [#20] 請教改位聴歌 Oh no kitchen to cook and speakers will be very smelly and oily !!!! ------------------- 如果家人接受，外人不要笑！ 為了靚聲，這叫做「環境」戰士，香港多的是。 |
rcwy 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.24 |
2014-09-11 09:59 |
