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[#23494] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Is Toyxxx Corxxxx a better car than Merxxxx C2xx?

I have owned these cars before. The latter is much more expensive and IMHO it is better. However, I must emphasize that I enjoyed driving either of them when owning either of them.

Just like hifi and photography, one can still enjoy the hobby, no matter the gear is expensive or not. Similar to tube amps, can a Nikxx be a better SLR camera than Leixx when a very expensive lens is connected? I would say, NO, but the performance is surely better.

Just my two cents
j_l
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218.xxx.xxx.149
2008-11-18 10:16
[#23495] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Heathkit W-5M is one of the best buy American vintage amplifier with KT66. In fact, it is also the best selling American KT66 amplifier in American Hi-Fi history.

Personally, I feel the power and solidity of Heathkit W-5M is slightly better than Leak TL/12. However if compare the fine details、aroma、timbre及harmonic extension ...the Leak TL/12 is still far better than Heathkit W-5M to my ears. Well! There are 4 times of price difference between two gears, but sure the performance difference will not be 4 times...but difference on characteristics of sound are still exist between them.
pilotrol
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221.xxx.xxx.46
2008-11-18 11:11
[#23496] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Personally, I feel the power and solidity of Heathkit W-5M is slightly better than Leak TL/12.
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Master Alan,

I compared both side by side for few days but strange I find 12.1 got much more power, control and solidity than W5M. Did you compare them side by side? Or just based on theory, memory or even imagination? :-)

Gingers, DD845 bros,

Please dig out your W5M!!! My ears is aging, I could be wrong. :-)

ace_hayashi
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202.xxx.xxx.13
2008-11-18 11:31
[#23497] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Dear Ace Hing

個人感覺上Heathkit W-5M力底好像比較好,但聲底較粗一點不像Leak TL/12般細緻,好像欠缺了一點嬌美,音樂表達上較為直接和生硬一點。Leak TL/12相對在細節、韻味、音色泛音都較Heathkit W-5M好像好一點。但我並沒有把兩部機Side by side去比較,我只是在不同時間分開比較後所得出的印象,所以純是我個人的觀感。

相信感覺Leak TL/12較大力和較硬是因為Leak TL/12和Heathkit W-5M輸入靈敏度的落差所影響,前級在輸入時調節致大家音壓一致,再比較時或野i能會得出不一樣的結論。

不過我相信每個人對器材的聽感也不同,Ace兄和我對Leak TL/12的見解不同是可以理解。最近做前級問卷時也得出一個奇怪的結論,因為不同Tester所做出的聽感評分落差可以分別很大...證明每個人的聽感也是不一樣。Ace兄千萬不要誤會是自己耳朵退化,相反或閉O小弟的耳朵退化也不無關係...!(事實上小弟耳朵在萬六七週以上已聽不到多少聲音了)。

Best regards
Alan
pilotrol
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221.xxx.xxx.46
2008-11-18 12:51
[#23498] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
W5同12.1相比,瓣瓣都輸.已經係不爭既事實.
易手價錢已顯示出來.所以有1:3,1:4或1:6既講法.

我希望以低成本機種加以改良,可以玩到貴價機既音效.
亦係發燒友本色.

如果免費任選其一,12.1就算開唔到聲,衹要幾隻牛無燒,我都會選.
k.c
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210.xxx.xxx.89
2008-11-18 14:46
[#23499] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
12.1就算開唔到聲,衹要幾隻牛無燒,我都會選.
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k.c. 兄

就算燒o左隻牛,我都會選吽I

我曾為燒了12.1輸出牛的友人找經驗師父按原來線式(手)重繞(非寶X機繞貨色),出來音效物主也分辦不出..

^+++++@
dd845
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203.xxx.xxx.25
2008-11-18 14:56
[#23500] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
dd845兄:
呢個師傅係我地一眾發燒友教星喎!
唔知可否仿做一對12.1既output?
k.c
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210.xxx.xxx.89
2008-11-18 15:22
[#23501] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    

我曾為燒了12.1輸出牛的友人找經驗師父按原來線式(手)重繞(非寶X機繞貨色),出來音效物主也分辦不出..
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GOOD news wor :-)

Gingers
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2008-11-18 15:35
[#23502] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
就算燒o左隻牛,我都會選吽I

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then what is left of that 12.1? can it be called 12.1? if not, it is just another amplifier.
Not-So-GoodSamaritan
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210.xxx.xxx.97
2008-11-18 16:00
[#23503] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
even the paint is Not-So-Good, it can be re-paint. the metal of the chasis is still coming from original TL12.1 ^___^
diytfy
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155.xxx.xxx.45
2008-11-18 16:05
[#23504] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
呢個師傅係我地一眾發燒友教星喎!
唔知可否仿做一對12.1既output?
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k.c. 兄

你想的我早想到了
師父話12.1牛的芯片當今找不到了
若改用其它芯片
據稱要重新計過線式云云
我說可否將線式告訴我
師父話 hmhmmmmmmmmmm

^____@@


dd845
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2008-11-18 16:40
[#23505] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
我說可否將線式告訴我
師父話 hmhmmmmmmmmmm
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there is a sucker born every day^-^
Not-So-GoodSamaritan
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210.xxx.xxx.97
2008-11-18 17:03
[#23506] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Hi John hing,

Can you please give me some comments on this Leak TL25+, thanks.

dy111
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218.xxx.xxx.248
2008-11-18 18:49
[#23507] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Hi John,

Another on the TL25+ inside componets.

Thanks again.

dy111
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2008-11-18 18:50
[#23508] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
dy111 hing

Pse check PM

dd845
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203.xxx.xxx.25
2008-11-18 21:45
[#23509] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
12.1就算開唔到聲,衹要幾隻牛無燒,我都會選.
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12.1 燒乜都得 (只要不是燒了我的腦) 我還是會選
;)
good
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123.xxx.xxx.176
2008-11-18 22:17
[#23510] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
I believe these are first generation GEC KT88! :-)



Ace_Hayashi
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192.xxx.xxx.48
2008-11-18 23:15
[#23511] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    

Hi Daniel

The condition is not bad. However, there are drilled holes on the chassis




Gingers
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221.xxx.xxx.28
2008-11-19 07:16
[#23512] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    

Hi Ace

They look great.
Are they yours?

John



Gingers
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221.xxx.xxx.28
2008-11-19 07:17
[#23513] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Hi Ace

They look great.
Are they yours?

John
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No. :-)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190267417263&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting



Ace_Hayashi
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2008-11-19 07:25
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