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| [#316] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Try to do a MD5 checksum comparison on two wave file you captured. http://www.winmd5.com/ |
hercules 正式會員112.xxx.xxx.108 |
2010-12-30 16:24 | |
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| [#317] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? hercules兄 個software點用?小弟完全唔識用... |
ming0119 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.46 |
2010-12-30 22:16 |
| [#318] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Vili Hing, I tested on 6 difference TIS disc tonight, firstly, you and Harmonic Hall doing a good job on disc quality, the Heart Breaker getting 3rd lowest Avg C1 out of 50 disc tested, No.1 is Ting Ting HQCD by Memory Tech Japan, C1 Avg 0.23, 2nd is previously posted Warren Mok 24K Gold by Toshiba, Avg C1 of 0.59, and Heart Breaker just Aluminium Disc by Harmonic Hall, a disc been played for 13 years, without 24K gold and HQCD technology, but really respectable figure of 0.63 Avg C1!! Unplug Golden Gate also getting very low Avg C1 of 0.9. http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/herculescheung/CD-CD-R%20C1C2%20Test%20result/TISUnplugGoldenGate-HarmonicHallAlDHMDisc.jpg It's Made in Hong Kong, sadly Harmonic Hall no longer in business.  最後修改時間: 2010-12-30 22:31:53 |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.108 |
2010-12-30 22:30 |
| [#319] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? just load the file you wanna get the MD5 checksum, after calculate of first file, copy it to the bottom box, then load the 2nd file for compare, will give you 2nd MD5 checksum, even 1 byte difference, will give you completely difference checksum. If same checksum, the files were identical in information. |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.108 |
2010-12-30 22:37 |
| [#320] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? dear all ching: sorry to use this post to clarifie some TIS misunderstanding: rep rox quote"但你新推出的 Crystal Ver. 我還未擁有一隻，因為有一段時間所推出的大陸版 TIS CD 質數未能保持， 所以現在新推出的我還是抱觀望態度。" TIS cd either press in HK or Burn 1:1 in TIS studio. Even the crown rate CN taobao sell all original TIS http://lsfcd.taobao.com/?search=y&price1=100&price2=1000&pageNum=1&scid=0&keyword=tis&old_starts=&categoryp=&pidvid=&orderType=_hotsell&viewType=grid&isNew=&baobei_type=#anchor thx for attn Vili 最後修改時間: 2010-12-30 22:40:38 |
TISvili11 正式會員 183.xxx.xxx.16 |
2010-12-30 22:38 |
| [#321] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? then 24K gold disc by Harmonic Hall too, but the Avg C1 figure still good, but not as good as Aluminium one  |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.108 |
2010-12-30 22:40 |
| [#322] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Hi Vili hing, I also own your Crystal Disc, I never purchase any Chinese TIS disc (I only got Harmonic Hall and current 16s, and Crystal disc, 1x years apart) If you have time, can you verify the crystal on your hand, even I don't think it's not your burning process problem, my Snow Rose Crystal is very high in C1 Avg figure, which is the same problem found in Hugo LPCD45, coloured CD-R disc manufactured by Plasmon.  |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.108 |
2010-12-30 22:46 |
| [#323] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? rep hercules h: 首先我不是spec追求，数值愛好者，但非常多謝你介紹甘好玩的speed玩左個幾鐘，得個結論:.... 我不是輸打赢要，首先我最有興趣是Jitter，不過Nero好似冇交代，你部可以test C1，我部同CLK一樣冇顯，只得C2有顯又系0，上網查原來好多都系甘，終淤有人指e.g pioneer系block左，可破解，但吾準確，我都好想世上有個表，度下我錄好左，即時rating，甘，即刻叫老細科水。 同意某D数值有參考值，但以Heart Breaker黎講，雖然當年三個月就過万張銷路，發x音响十個八個主筆齊托，始终吾系我TIS Top20之列，我D朋友或叔父輩更冇人提。 照理靚實多人鐘意… 其他人性.心理.主觀吾提，音响經常話過癮，尼D癮尼D毒，本身就是反数值，90年代16bit我就快手見Studer Dir甘老死，用全亜第一部22bit重Studer MO，錄左黑毒，當然個個大呼過癮，其實系胆咪放AD一體，今日揾部测spec，一定死得，不過話時話，由cd到千元1:1直刻，黑毒永遠銷量三甲。 我rate CD-R全憑勤力，我有两套4隻24” 分两間，一間两層楼高，Genelec1035 Mastering room用，三對中，小，微sp，因為两層所以日日行百幾層，又去揾得高教父，大俠，余師傅，鴨寮街扮買野，旺角又太多熟人，D sales好多倾個，特登揾D初哥sale睇吓最直率D聲，大概聞到邊到太理想化，知道邊度最毒最殺，最后微調定案。 你都有留意我紅碟多，因為最啱香港環境播，我吾會吾捨得用24k，湖水cdr，而系帶晒吾同牌子，顔色，刻程式，刻速岀街砌完的尼爾遜針査成果，未必系你最中意杯茶，但年中一定走吾甩飲两杯。 |
TISvili11 正式會員 183.xxx.xxx.16 |
2010-12-31 02:59 |
| [#324] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Yes, my rom can't test on the jitter, so it's greyed out. but the C1 figure reflect quality assurance issue of CD duplication more than on recording quality wise matters, like deflect on stamper, stamper wears and also quality of recording medium (e.g. CD-R), lower C1 you can get from That's and Mitsubishi CD-R for Mastering. A computerized figures never tell "how the music sound like and how great it's". At lease it's a very objective indication of bad disc if C2 present, which unforgivable, luckily I still not getting any disc with C2 error. The heart breaker disc on my hand just tell you very good job on Harmonic Hall production, compared with today HQCD and 24K Gold disc from Japan. Just like Jacky Cheung's case, Made in Germany Disc sound and quality can be varying so much within same batch, why rush for first batch? why purchase a CD like a lucky draw game, see who will pick the best one? 最後修改時間: 2010-12-31 04:16:05 |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.108 |
2010-12-31 04:15 |
| [#325] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Dear hercules hing: You have a point, although in my case human ear alw my last measurment. So in a very near future, I will found a drive can test all,C1C2jitter, to print a report attach w 1:1 master grade (the highest end product). Agree that'sCD-Rmusic at top, but KODAK24k I used for woodbox YUMON, is magic, maybe the most inflating gold in this world. 15 times higher in just 10 years, if spec only telling true, market value rates the most desirable thx for your advise, very good idea Vili 最後修改時間: 2010-12-31 08:00:52 |
TISvili11 正式會員 183.xxx.xxx.16 |
2010-12-31 07:55 |
| [#326] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Vili Hing, the Kodak Archival 24K Gold CD-R no longer in production, but from measurement, appearance and manufacturer indicated by Nero, both Mobile Fidelity UltraDisc 24K Gold CD-R and Kodak 24-bit is the same thing made by Mitsui http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/herculescheung/CD-CD-R%20C1C2%20Test%20result/KodakPreservationDisc24KGoldCD-R.jpg  |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.119 |
2010-12-31 11:56 |
| [#327] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Hercules hing, Long time no see. I notice your rating is using Sony DVD-ROM. Have you ever using different ROM to rate same CD-R? Would the jitter measurement of different ROM be the same? Or using different software outcome the same result too? For example, plextor provides measuring sotware to their product just like the Nero Disc-speed. I am too lazy to try everything but my result is that the disc I burned with Plextor is better sounding than my other burning ROM(Lite On; Pioneer; Samsung; Philips; LG;Lacie and a vintage 1X speed Yamaha). I used Taiyo-Denki CD-R mostly. |
com-buddy 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.54 |
2010-12-31 14:28 |
| [#328] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? com-buddy h: 主場優勢，絶對成立，所以老一輩成日提，什么揾翻RCA播Livingstereo就六粒星，主要自錄自播程式自動optimize，推遠小小你地話衰聲的大label，佢地一於好少理，因為系佢錄音室，marketing聽都非常正，所以世界就有甘多面。 最好的test C1 jitter系更可以直接以最低限StuderA730，甚至更高班次，情况會改觀兼有趣 最後修改時間: 2010-12-31 17:55:52 |
TISvili11 正式會員 183.xxx.xxx.105 |
2010-12-31 17:53 |
| [#329] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Hi Com-buddy, happy new year!! My Sony is quite accuracy when I run the C1/C2 test with a disc come with certificate with C1/C2 test result ran on the real Plextor Drive (Plextor dropped own Optical Drive production since 2007, then latter drive were OEM from Lite-On, LG with custom firmware), my drive result was in good agreement with it, and most important it's repeatable, while another Lite-On give lower than realistic figure to me, so all result I ran I will stick with the Sony. But the disc burn with my Sony still can't better than from real Plextor drive when tested with my Sony. 最後修改時間: 2010-12-31 19:48:10 |
hercules 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.119 |
2010-12-31 19:47 |
| [#330] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? 小弟用Rioch cd-rom 1.4x速 rip wav,發現rip完碟隻碟真係差左,第2次rip之前有消磁,但2個wav file聽感明顯後者係差d,唔好話係套hifi到聽連ipod都聽得出,點算~~" during ripping, cd disk spinning in higher speed, higer air fiction create more static created on the plastic of the cd disk. please try to use "ionic air blower " remove the static completely before making any conclusion |
batmanames04 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.217 |
2011-01-03 10:13 |
| [#331] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? batmanames04兄 邊到有得買? |
ming0119 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.153 |
2011-01-03 18:14 |
| [#332] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? 古河靜電風扇 |
DeepSea^^ 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.118 |
2011-01-03 18:18 |
| [#333] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? 朋友叫我試下用無燒錄功能既rom,會唔會有同樣問題,但手上無淨read 既rom,上網睇Plextor有隻外置好似唔錯,用usb唔知有無影響音質,高手們比d意見 http://vshare.cc/viewthread.php?tid=383580  |
ming0119 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.153 |
2011-01-03 18:22 |
| [#334] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Interesting topic Try to compare two discs on the player. Can’t tell the difference after getting the discs to rip. Possible cause: 1) My system is too insensitive to tell the difference. 2) I ,myself , am too insensitive to tell the difference. Both of them have been demagnetized and treated by ionic air blower before comparing. Major difference was heard after discs have been treated with both demagnetizer and the ionic air blower. |
pathwonghk 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.11 |
2011-01-04 00:41 |
| [#335] 入過電腦的cd會永久衰聲? Recent try for same disk with Nero/Philips ROM and Plextor Utilities/Plextor ROM. Result is interesting.  |
com-buddy 正式會員 112.xxx.xxx.109 |
2011-01-11 17:33 |
