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| [#21] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba "I can burn you a CD and post it to you later. You have to destory it after listening once ... ( ^ ^ ) I know new technology can do this though (i mean self-destruction of the CD after being played once). " Thanks in advance but please don't send me one that self-destructs in the smoking way of Mission Impossible ... I still love my CD player very much :-D And you reminded me of those dusted Depeche Mode 12" singles, like See You. Oh I want to dig them out tonight :-D |
notmychartwell 正式會員219.xxx.xxx.230 |
2008-08-01 12:01 | |
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| [#22] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba 最近路過倫敦，與太座走到 Barbican 聽 Colin Davis 指揮 LSO nomychartwell hing, is this written by you and actually u r the protagonist??? I am confused about the message posted in the threaded posted earlier by u ( # @ ) |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.159 |
2008-08-01 17:25 |
| [#23] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba An interview with zbigniew in Ming Pao some months ago ...  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.159 |
2008-08-01 17:38 |
| [#24] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba 2nd page  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.159 |
2008-08-01 17:38 |
| [#25] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba "zbigniew82 hing and ck2005 hing, interesting that we get to this stage from Michael Nyman :)" Yes, very very very unexpected! "I once bumped into a very impressive reproduction of "Oil Lo Bai Sau" by Leung Sing Bor in a mezz floor shop on Apliu St ..." Oh, sorry what is Oil Lo Bai Sau?? "Yamaha make an amplified violin that comes without the hollow body which signifies the sound of a particular violin in a traditional sense, and to everyone's surprise Yamaha "reinvented" violin. With it, Midge Ure of Ultravox, Vanessa Mae, the Bond Girls, even Paul Weller, just to name a few, had made themselves famous ... bring us to "what defines a violin" at a metaphysical level :-D Oh, again, an excellent treatise (regardless it's short) about what constitute instrument! Are you referring to Vienna by Ultravox? I listened to it almost everyday when I was a kid because of the 'violins'. But not until now do I realise it's a special type of violin though I did feel a bit strange about its sound! I need to take it out and listen to it again! "Pete Townshend may be more qualified to tell you this, since he and The Who are notoriously known for using four pairs of 4350s to monitor their original recordings ! The original performace of their works are meant to be played amplified at deafening levels, how to repeat this outside of their studio is another interpretation of hifi." Wow, you really seem to have very good knowledge in hifi, music genres and live performance! I didn't know the Who is using 4 pairs of 4350. I got a pair of 4301 though! Yes, how to repeat 'The Who''s performance in hifi? In fact, what is the yardstick for judging what is authentic 'The Who' performance? There is probably no single yardstick. "Another extreme example is the all too famous soundtrack for the Taiwanese film "A City of Sadness", which I conceded that I don't know how to get the reference because most of it was synthesized music, and to me, this is a soundtrack equally haunting without the film !" Yes, I like it very much, but I like the '戀戀風塵Dust in the Wind' even more! I remember I play 戀戀風塵 CD during the night and was working. A song has thundering right? My hifi system was not very good, but I thought there was thundering outside the window. I checked outside for several times and puzzled for a while and finally realised it's the CD! notmychartwell hing, your responses are mini-thesis! |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.159 |
2008-08-01 17:56 |
| [#26] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew82 hing, I guess I am older than you. But how come we share the same tatste apart from Preisner? 悲情城市, 戀戀風塵 (films by 侯孝賢) all I like. People used to have the former for testing speaker's LF response. But for people with historical sense, the music do provoke feeling of sadness(二二八事件). For me, I really enjoy the mood when playing 戀戀風塵, esp. the part with the young girl's narration in Minnan during the rainy day...一滴二滴..... |
ck2005 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.230 |
2008-08-01 18:16 |
| [#27] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba ck2005 hing, why u said "guess I am older than you."?? Because of my taste in Depeche Mode? ( ^ ^ ) "But how come we share the same tatste apart from Preisner? " Did you type wrong? You said u like Presiner woh! "But for people with historical sense, the music do provoke feeling of sadness(二二八事件)." I have to admit I couldn't feel like older Taiwanese about 二二八事件. Also admittedly, when I first saw the City of Sadness, I even felt asleep. That's my fault, not the film. 戀戀風塵, yes, I remember the narration, very touching. |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.159 |
2008-08-01 18:21 |
| [#28] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew821 hing, I couldn't tell your age unless I see you in person. It has nothing to do preference to music. I believe and observe that young generation are more knowledgeable than me esp. in this internet era. Personally, I don't like electronic music very much except for Pet Shop Boys. As I am getting older and older, my preference used to be dictated by those old memories. I meant I like some Taiwanese composers in addition to Preisner. Stop now as I have to go home la. Talk to you later tonight. |
ck2005 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.230 |
2008-08-01 18:32 |
| [#29] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba ck2005 hing, yes, age doesn't necessarily relate to music taste. I love Pet Shop Boys as well. Now I am playing Yip Chun Tong. I love his songs very much, I mean those in the 70s. Talk to you later tonight! |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.159 |
2008-08-01 19:14 |
| [#30] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba "is this written by you and actually u r the protagonist???" 對阿，是我寫的，今年初夏我與太座半公半私到過倫敦，還附庸風雅了一會 :) 那天偶讀到 r33 李約翰的有感發言，多口病就發作 。沒執筆多年了，請多指正。 話盒子打開就關不上，有些話不說不得。早些時那一帖陳潔麗來港發展的傳聞激得有點異常。如何界定成央A追隨者品味定位等等都變成很惹火的問題，都談過了，帖子卻提出了原創、翻唱、與口水歌等等問題。先別論具實力的演藝家是否要走創作之路，我們也得接受世上確有出色的非創作演藝人，這在流行樂界很普遍，在古典樂界非創作演奏家的比例更高，他們對推廣音樂是有大貢獻的。那天噫讔棸爸鴗p提琴家呂恩清的訪問錄，提出了 "第二次創作"，我想這會幫助思考這個問題。節錄如下，原文請參看七月二十四日信報“面對面”： [ 換一個角度：我們喜歡稱演奏家為第二次創作。這是歐洲古典音樂的一種特色。作曲家在歐洲古典音樂中地位崇高，因為他們是音樂的第一創作者。演奏家把作典家的作品演繹出來，是為第二次創作。] 文中沒有進一步闡釋演奏家要做些甚麼才能稱得上為作品作出第二次創作，在下不才，強作解人，想必包括他對該作品的認知，再加上個人修養而提供了原創以外的神采，最好還要做到別家所無。硬套過來，陳小姐明顯付出過努力，個人風格強烈，她選唱的歌是否經歷過第二次創作，見人見智了，又何苦相逼非要她走創作之路不可？這有點像美國六、七十年代長駐拉斯維加斯的 Liberace，私人生活不談，他的台風和唱央A都花過心思來迎合他的目標觀眾，但這算不算經歷過第二次創作，都有人不接受他，偏偏他很紅，場場滿座。樂評人尖酸的批評和恨他的人的謾罵，他倒是很介意的，但他反諷說“我一邊流眼瓷A一邊把鈔票存進銀行。”知所適從，你能說他不成扒隉H藝術成就？在下販夫，無從說起，但我覺得 Liberace 本人已是一門藝術。至於坊間的所謂口水歌，在下大膽，認為它們限於客觀條件而致演出者未能為現成的作品投入個人增值，大家即使口裡不好承認，這詞到底談不上帶有敬意，黃霑生前對此是作過研究的，他的博士論文或有記載，在下未有讀過，不敢亂說下去。 |
notmychartwell 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.234 |
2008-08-01 20:05 |
| [#31] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew821 hing "Oh, sorry what is Oil Lo Bai Sau??" 梁醒波的呆佬拜壽。抱歉家中的電腦沒有手寫板，要你猜了。 |
notmychartwell 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.234 |
2008-08-01 20:11 |
| [#32] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba And thanks so much for the interview with Zbigniew Preisner on Ming Pao ! I am stunned by his philosophy on "silence" in music. This will take me some time to read. And yes, it's Vienna by Ultravox ! Now we know each other :-D I'm not sure if Midge Ure used the Yamaha violin in the original studio version, but I agree that was a strange violin sound. He used it in many live concerts, one of them was probably Live in the Hammersmith Odeon, and it sounded quite the same with that of the studio version (!) But the most "impact" came from the syn drums, which were so '80s ! I used to have it in a PAL VHS ... not anymore la, my old VCR had it for lunch ! |
notmychartwell 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.234 |
2008-08-01 20:37 |
| [#33] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba notmychartwell hing, "沒執筆多年了，請多指正。" It seems u wrote a lot before .. were you a music critic? 陳潔麗來港發展的傳聞 ... I actually haven't followed this. But your mention here arouses my interest. Let me check check ... but "黃霑生前對此是作過研究的，他的博士論文或有記載，在下未有讀過，不敢亂說下去。" Do you know you can download his phd thesis directly from HKU? I downloaded it already and read some. It's actually not very 'theoretical' - it's very informative though! If you want and I can email you to save the trouble (getting password from HKU, etc.). Yes, Zbigniew is more than a composer. His thoughts about film music is actually wonderful. I know the same writer will write a longer interview in a Taiwan magazine. Will show you later once it's out. Can I ask you something about hifi or lowfi? Although I dun want to spend a million on hifi and am a bit skeptical about perfection in hifi, I still want to enjoy the music I love through moderate quality gears. I am having trouble with my system recently, especially for performing classical music. Just want some second opinion. Do you mind if I pm you about my question? |
zbigniew821 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.38 |
2008-08-01 23:44 |
| [#34] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew821 hing, you are flattering me :} No I am not a music critic, never was, but I used to write a lot on about almost everything ... many many years ago there were not many people willing to write for small multi-ethnic community radios in the UK and at the same time doing some news broadcasting, but it happened that I have no money but much time. On hifi or lowfi, I'm not sure can I help, my current set up couldn't be more mainstream and straightfoward : SL-1200mk2 / DL-103R, SONY X-5000, QUAD 66/606 without mc stage, Chartwell LS3/5a (borrowed, hence my r33 ID), connected by some spaghetti by Furukawa, MIT, and Tara Labs, and I almost never do any tweaking except that friends would keep moving around the loudspeakers when they visit. Yes pls PM me, though I think the collective resources on r33 is a greater pool of intelligence :) And yes, please help me to locate Dr Wong's thesis. I came across it a while ago in a friend's place but I didn't have the momentum to finish it. Now I have. Thanks ! |
notmychartwell 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.230 |
2008-08-02 02:27 |
| [#35] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba The music of Nyman and Zbigniew are very rhythmic. It is effortlyless to recall the movies through their soundtracks. This one is nice to me too especially knowing a little of its background and origins.  |
rickymartin 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.240 |
2008-08-02 10:16 |
| [#36] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew821 hing, please tell more on how you find it "difficult to play it with good sound". I revisited the "The Cook ..." soundtrack and I suppose the vast dynamic range pushed the system to its limit is it not ? Last night I have to wait until real late and turned off air-conditioning so to have a low noise floor in the living room before I can have a vivid presentation of the "quietest" parts, but like Bolero, I simply cannot stay with a single volume setting to finish it without poising to disturb my neighbours ... ... and I have to say, when the memory of the film was still fresh, I was dictated by Greenaway's strong visual images; now 20 years had gone and I enjoyed Nyman's soundtrack as a standalone music piece from a whole new perspective, esp after reading Zbigniew's view on "the silence in music". As rickymartin hing said, the music brought back the scenes :) I rediscovered Nyman's soundtrack works, thanks for bringing it up ! |
notmychartwell 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.234 |
2008-08-02 14:29 |
| [#37] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew821 hing, please tell more on how you find it "difficult to play it with good sound". Hi notmychartwell hing, Just for the first track, I found my system unable to deliever smooth sound. Especially when all players are playing violins, there seems to be some 'distorting' highs (which may be Nyman's particular intent, you know he can be like that ...), which made my ears uncomfortable. I have pm you about my lowfi gears which may be the source of the problem. You may laugh at my gears. But I am too sentimental about hifi - many of them has been with me for over 20 years. I wouldn't replace them unless they no longer satsify me in a serious manner. "now 20 years had gone and I enjoyed Nyman's soundtrack as a standalone music piece from a whole new perspective, esp after reading Zbigniew's view on "the silence in music". As rickymartin hing said, the music brought back the scenes :) I rediscovered Nyman's soundtrack works, thanks for bringing it up !" I'm glad to hear this, indeed! |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.83 |
2008-08-02 14:41 |
| [#38] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba rikcymartin hing, seeing u from time to time! Gloomy Sunday is good oh. I only know that sound lead many to commit suicide. It's a very famous song in Spain (have to check). It's very haunting ... |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.83 |
2008-08-02 14:42 |
| [#39] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba Please check your PM. You have a very good system :) Nyman's high density violin may have brought you troubles but I think his intention is to signify his music rather than to annoy you :-D |
notmychartwell 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.234 |
2008-08-02 19:42 |
| [#40] Anyone likes Michael Nyman? His CDs are ba zbigniew821 hing "I only know that sound lead many to commit suicide." Funny you should say that :-D I used to think people would commit suicide after listening to Joy Division, but then I'm just about to buy "Control" on Amazon, a film on their lead singer Ian Curtis, who really committed suicide ! |
notmychartwell 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.234 |
2008-08-02 19:46 |
