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| [#21] Weiss Minerva That's a good observation, thanks for sharing. |
DWS 218.xxx.xxx.5 |
2009-03-27 00:38 | |
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| [#22] Weiss Minerva Weiss + HRx is really the invincible combo for computer music. I wonder if there will be an async mode USB to USB adapter selling HK$500 to solve all our jitters problem with the USB sound card. Has anyone tried to compare DAC2 with Majik? ![]() |
CKL2 202.xxx.xxx.171 |
2009-03-27 08:42 |
| [#23] Weiss Minerva My dac2 did had a chance to sit aside with a Linn Karik CDP for red book CD playback, both are musical and high in resolution. Thus, I think Majik DS should be very good for serious music lover. |
Vash 116.xxx.xxx.55 |
2009-03-27 08:59 |
| [#24] Weiss Minerva I have auditioned the DAC2 and the Benchmark at the Exhibition Hall 7 this afternoon. My initial comment is that DAC2 won by quite a big margin in terms of sound quality. Benchmark (at half of the price of DAC) did a fairly decent job. However, I found it a bit soft and restrictive. On the other hand, the DAC2 is more expressive and capable of creating a much wider sound stage. In doing the comparison, the amp and the speakers are identical. The DAC2 is partnered with a MacBook using iTune whereas the Benchmark is connected to a eePC using Foobar. |
higo 167.xxx.xxx.10 |
2009-03-27 17:51 |
| [#25] Weiss Minerva I reached there around 5:00. No chance for audition....sad. |
qek191 221.xxx.xxx.184 |
2009-03-27 20:18 |
| [#26] Weiss Minerva Hi higo, Are the source the same, that is, not HRx vs 44/16. |
CKL2 202.xxx.xxx.171 |
2009-03-27 21:14 |
| [#27] Weiss Minerva At least one of the songs is the same. The song in question is 24/96 and is downloaded from the same source (i.e. from hifitrack.com). DAC2 and Benchmark use the same amplifier and same speakers. The only difference is that:- 1. Benchmark is using EeePC with Foobar; and 2. DAC2 is using MacBook with iTune. Mind you, the difference is not subtle. |
higo 119.xxx.xxx.172 |
2009-03-27 22:37 |
| [#28] Weiss Minerva 我就睇中個喇叭。 ![]() |
小張 59.xxx.xxx.169 |
2009-03-27 22:52 |
| [#29] Weiss Minerva yes, this speaker is good. the song files from hifitrack.com are good too. |
rainy-night 219.xxx.xxx.30 |
2009-03-27 23:28 |
| [#30] Weiss Minerva One of the difference between DAC2 and Minerva : The analog output level of DAC2 is fixed at +17.8dBu (RCA and XLR) - much higher level for use of the professional field, whilst that of Minerva is +10.2dBu. Kent, please correct me if the fact/data quoted is wrong. |
小百靈 123.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-03-28 20:55 |
| [#31] Weiss Minerva 小百靈, From Weiss official manual for both Minerva and DAC2, their output are the same level as 2.5v ie.10.2dBu. Pls. see below link for more info.. http://www.weiss.ch/dac2/documents/DAC2Manual-2.pdf http://www.weiss-highend.ch/minerva/documents/minerva-manual.pdf |
Vash 219.xxx.xxx.187 |
2009-03-29 00:21 |
| [#32] Weiss Minerva Quoted from the old DAC2 User Manual (when no digital volume control) Output Connection Connect your preamplifier or power amplifier to the output connectors of the DAC2. Use either the symmetrical (balanced) lines (XLR) or the asymmetrical (unbalanced) lines (RCA). The output level is fixed at +17.8dBu for both balanced and unbalanced outputs. |
小百靈 123.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-03-29 00:53 |
| [#33] Weiss Minerva Quoted from the new DAC2 User Manual (page 5) Output Connection Connect your preamplifier or power amplifier to the output connectors of the DAC2. Use either the symmetrical (balanced) lines (XLR) or the asymmetrical (unbalanced) lines (RCA). The output level is fixed at +17.8dBu for both the balanced and unbalanced output. However, the output level mentioned at Page 8 of the same manual is different : Analog Outputs: - (2) XLR Connectors, (2) RCA Connectors. - DC coupled, short circuit proofed output circuitry. - Output impedance: 50 Ohm. - Output level: 2.5Vrms (+10.2 dBu) on XLR and on RCA output with a 0dBFS sinewave input. There must be something wrong in the online user manual. |
小百靈 123.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-03-29 00:58 |
| [#34] Weiss Minerva Just pass by, I am no technical man. Probably both figures are correct. The output level 2.5Vrms refers to a OdBFS sinewave input. |
jcml 219.xxx.xxx.62 |
2009-03-29 06:34 |
| [#35] Weiss Minerva Just bought the Weiss Minerva. Sound excellent when connect with my mac book. I never heard the sound so extended before with my EMM Lab Combo. I think it is really a over value product which available in the market. |
Tubes 210.xxx.xxx.200 |
2009-03-30 12:45 |
| [#36] Weiss Minerva Hi Tubes c-hing, Congratulation for your new found, btw I am curious, if you are talking about the same Emm combo that another c-hing discuss about in this thread? http://www.review33.com/avforum/index.php?topic=26080713012540 ![]() |
zoltm 218.xxx.xxx.93 |
2009-03-30 13:22 |
| [#37] Weiss Minerva Bro. Tubes, Your comment is an add-value gift to all Minerva users !! ^__^ |
Vash 203.xxx.xxx.79 |
2009-03-30 13:54 |
| [#38] Weiss Minerva Any difference using firware 400 & 800?? |
f-u-n-g 219.xxx.xxx.69 |
2009-03-30 14:25 |
| [#39] Weiss Minerva I tried both, no difference at all. |
Vash 203.xxx.xxx.79 |
2009-03-30 14:58 |
| [#40] Weiss Minerva Hello, The first batch production has output level of +17.8dBu on both RCA & XLR. This is very normal in professional units with very high headroom. Weiss Medea (DAC1-MK2) have as high as +27dBu on Balanced output. However sometimes this generates problems for consumer unit, especially the RCA high output level. The 2nd batch product updates the output to (+10.2dBu). This update applies same to both Minerva/DAC2. Hope this help. |
DWS 220.xxx.xxx.154 |
2009-03-30 15:04 |