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[#41] 結果報告 倒也有理...如是者, 我想請教一下, 例如整張專輯播完才轉設備, 而專輯有9首歌曲, 轉設備後我應該再由第1首歌開始聽, 還是直接播第9首? @_@ >> i suggest you try a few more songs next time, instead of quick a/b comparison. my experience is comparing digital output is more difficult than analogue output. becoz in analogue output there's sound tuning done in the process so it's easier to tell differences apart. but by extended listening, you can tell good digital output from bad digital output. |
bigfatstranger![]() 116.xxx.xxx.197 |
2009-04-22 19:06 | |
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[#42] 結果報告 i am looking for a set of used emu0404usb, if you have one to sell, please pm me with offer. thanks |
welborne![]() 220.xxx.xxx.110 |
2009-04-22 19:19 |
[#43] 結果報告 Using sound card can be just as good as a very good CD transport is no surprise at all, as long as the DAC is good enough to eliminate the jitter. |
sparkie![]() 218.xxx.xxx.47 |
2009-04-22 21:53 |
[#44] 結果報告 There are many variables in a CAS environment, I do not think people can actually manage and control all these variables to make CAS sound right....Just the noise generated by switching power supply is a nightmare to deal with. Provide that you got a really capable transport,not those 2-3 thousands dollar chinese made CD, it is really difficult to beat a CD transport at the moment. |
accphoto![]() 219.xxx.xxx.143 |
2009-04-22 21:59 |
[#45] 結果報告 bigfatstranger hing, you can do it any order you want. the importance is listen to each one over an extended period of time, at least a few songs. then slowly the differences should emerge. my experience is the better digital out would sound softer, which to my ears are more natural. this is especially easier to pick out if you put normal to lousy recordings. this is just my experience. maybe in your case the 0404 is really equal to chord transport when marching with chord dac. i once had opportunity to listen to macbook with chord 64 and found its ram buffer was quite effective to deal with jitter from a lesser quality source. |
mahi![]() 219.xxx.xxx.171 |
2009-04-22 22:10 |
[#46] 結果報告 we can agree the both cd player and sound card can reproduce bit perfect data. In fact, there are even more evidence that support this with sound card than with CD transport. So it is jitter that matters. But jitter can be recovered with a good DAC, all factors you mentioned affects jitter which makes the difference some people experience. |
sparkie![]() 218.xxx.xxx.47 |
2009-04-22 22:16 |
[#47] 結果報告 Thanks for sharing. Would anyone tell me where I can buy EMU 0404 usb? How much is it? |
blanka![]() 61.xxx.xxx.175 |
2009-04-22 22:38 |
[#48] 結果報告 腦場有的, 也有其他品牌; 近年有很多新產品出現, 建議你再作比較才下決定啊, 以我所知入門級的多在HKD2K以下...我從事製作行業, 每天對著電腦工作很長時間, 所以喜歡用電腦聽音樂, 很多行家都是一樣~ |
bigfatstranger![]() 116.xxx.xxx.197 |
2009-04-22 23:27 |
[#49] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 加多凳仔... |
akg![]() 202.xxx.xxx.82 |
2009-04-23 10:59 |
[#50] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? akg: 報告出咗囉喎, scroll吓就睇到! 補充資料--這個link有一些關於用電腦播歌的基本知識: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/Computer-Audiophile-Academy |
bigfatstranger![]() 116.xxx.xxx.197 |
2009-04-23 13:42 |
[#51] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 打死都唔信 Cord transport + Cord DAC 播 CD 和 CAS 無分別xN 我自己有/用0404USB都係咁講 |
傻仔![]() 219.xxx.xxx.30 |
2009-04-23 21:18 |
[#52] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 對的, 我經常對人說, 只要相信自己耳朶便行, 因為你只能靠這雙耳朶聽音樂! 和朋友談起, 他們說我的測試有改進的地方: 1) 0404u不應用USB供電 2) 0404u接駁前級的訊號線並非hi-fi grade的材料, 不太好 3) 應使用Mac機配iTunes進行測試, 因為這是更易用也更好聲的配置(據他所說) 我沒有看法--這一切留待其他人尋找答案好了~ |
bigfatstranger![]() 119.xxx.xxx.37 |
2009-04-24 00:55 |
[#53] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 日本方面做的測試, 比較不同soundcard: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=zh-TW&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dosv.jp%2Fother%2F0612%2F23.htm&sl=ja&tl=en |
bigfatstranger![]() 119.xxx.xxx.37 |
2009-04-24 15:56 |
[#54] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? hello, I just purchased whte color EMU 0404 today. Personal share: *** Natural Sound, maybe or very close "Class A" taste *** Not much power, if compare to EMU 0404 12 o'clock = MF V8P 1 o'clock = GW T2A 9 o'clock = my accuphase E480 10 o'clock Dell notebook > EMU0404 >> HD600 (8.5 of 10) thick average, warm average, under HKD 2K if compare to Dell notebook > MF V8P >> HD600 (7/7.5 of 10) thin, weak |
cslo333![]() 59.xxx.xxx.71 |
2009-05-16 03:36 |
[#55] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 不過佢駁notebook真係幾方便, 可以用另外一個USB做bus power, 唔駛駁火牛, 好同意natural sound同唔多夠power兩個特性~ |
bigfatstranger![]() 119.xxx.xxx.57 |
2009-05-16 04:46 |
[#56] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 終於將電腦用 coaxial 接往hifi組合的 Assemblage DAC 3.1,聽了幾個鐘比較,播放組合是: 1. Foobar + ASIO2.0 >> Assemblage DAC 3.1。 2. Media Monkey >>Assemblage DAC 3.1。 3. CD transport 是 Philips DVD 963sa,以24/96出,因比較好的一部打了柴,只剩philips。 4. 以sound card 用RCA 從 headphone駁往pre (因sound card RCA out是不經 LM4562的,所以從headphone 出) 。以24/96 wav 和 16/44wav出。 DAC+前後都是full balance運作。 DAC每聲道用2粒BB PCM1704 D/A + 2粒OPA134A,Full balance 設計, STX兩聲道用一粒BB PCM1792A D/A+ OPA LM4562(兩IC網上評語都很好)。 音源以蔡琴的XRCD2金片子內的天涯歌女、我有一段情、hifi showCD內王菲之如風、張學友日本版吻別反覆聆聽階,以r8brain 預先 convert to 24/96和 16/44的 wav,免經sound card upsampling和 16/44 wav經sound card upsampling往DAC。 最初是以Foobar作 player以24/96 digital out,和以963SA up to 24/96 digital out 比較,發覺 CD 誰出來的效果是音場闊和後,層次分明,空氣感相當多,而 foobar音場需然都係有番咁上下闊,但整個音場卻移前了很多層次都不大好,空氣感沒有了,全頻有被壓縮,不夠通透;唯一的是播天涯歌女初段鋼琴有一下低音有力,並不收得快,而963SA卻收得很快,對 CAS和 Foobar 很失望! 後來以Media Monkey作player,化開聲後所有正常都回來了,衡全頻平衡度亦很好,將Foobar + ASIO全面擊倒;而空氣感比963SA少一些,還發覺963SA全頻的平衡度不太好,高中頻有少許凸出,形成空氣感太多,而低頻少許不足和收得快(這只是我個人之感覺和我的組合出來的結果,不代表所有玩家都是這樣) 。 以 Media Monkey 24/96和 以16/44 wav經 STX sound card up to 24/96去DAC播放,16/44音場有少許前了口形亦大了少少,人聲不夠通透,963SA播CD 升24/96,人聲又比前者好,以預先升 24/96 wav去 DAC,人聲又較963SA好些。 Xonar Essence STX sound card其實真的不錯的,$1280是超值的。只是用料不及 Assemblage DAC 3.1,輸亦不出奇。 還有,在 hifi track買的16/44 master,音效非常正,將會買一首蔡琴老歌之痴痴地等,與三洋版和日本版作比較。 UID24575 帖子35 精華0 積分35 註冊時間2008-9-20 查看詳細資料 |
福至心靈![]() 123.xxx.xxx.72 |
2009-05-16 09:08 |
[#57] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 昨天比較過hifitrack買的蔡琴老歌之癡癡的等,和三洋版的,兩首差不多,但三洋版勝在人聲帶有喉嚨聲,和柔和些,都係聽三洋版舒服得多。 |
福至心靈![]() 123.xxx.xxx.72 |
2009-05-16 09:09 |
[#58] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 仔細比較我亦發現MediaMonkey好d, 但有d唔習慣佢個UI, 同埋喺我部機有間唔中hang機o既情況, 同一眾hi-fi級數player比較, foobar依家已經係被認為排喺好後... MediaMonkey好似可以用winamp plugin, 如果可以用佢個VST bridge, 可能就可以用番所有VST effect, 到時想要咩聲效都可以搞到出黎~ |
bigfatstranger![]() 119.xxx.xxx.57 |
2009-05-16 20:56 |
[#59] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? >>>1. Foobar + ASIO2.0 >> Assemblage DAC 3.1。 Foobar + KS (Kernel Stream) 先至出到好聲。 |
Vash![]() 220.xxx.xxx.36 |
2009-05-16 21:26 |
[#60] EMU 0404 USB大戰Chord Blu + QBD76, 結果係點? 加凳仔... ^_^ |
1398![]() 124.xxx.xxx.81 |
2011-04-01 09:25 |