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| [#41] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 whizmika兄其實好岩，環境及擺位不能保證好聲音。不過樓主講的問題太可怕，已不是好不好聲的問題，是亂到九彩。亂到九彩離好聲音還有很大距離，我才想可能基本房事問題可能佔較大原因而了。 |
zbigniew821 正式會員116.xxx.xxx.251 |
2015-10-28 22:11 | |
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| [#42] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 師兄有否試過關掉及拔起cas，router，有線電等之電源，再聽聽 |
hkc 正式會員 124.xxx.xxx.217 |
2015-10-28 22:44 |
| [#43] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 大棚的交嚮樂 in technical term means wide dynamic range. You need a amplifier that have enough headroom to reproduce those change of sound level faithfully in the volume level you choose. If your front end equipment is neutral and balanced, a good small 50W output power amp can still reproduce the music faithfully with lower volume level and reasonable efficient speaker around 90db, however, the amp will not be able to reproduce the music faithfully if you start to increase the volume. That is the reason why you have to choose a good amplifier with high power output as well if you like 大棚的交嚮樂 and any brand that can fulfill the requirement will never come cheap. |
Davelmusik 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.125 |
2015-10-28 22:52 |
| [#44] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 it could be helpful if james could reveal what 'orchestral pieces' are making headaches ... |
zbigniew821 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.251 |
2015-10-29 00:28 |
| [#45] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 路过者 請問師兄现用什麼品牌電源線 若是架仔牌…… |
sum415 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.237 |
2015-10-29 00:35 |
| [#46] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 # 40 有無試過由CD機接入AMP (石/膽機), 如果CD機有RCA出? 跳過到DAC看看. 又者你成set野大多以voodoo組合, 有沒有試過全部用雞線睇睇? 雞線因為夠雞, 所以只有還原得比較差, 但唔會話加左太多好似voodoo 的性格. |
kl122002 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.219 |
2015-10-29 08:23 |
| [#47] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 voodoo特性动態大 音場廣 背景靜和分析力强 |
cks51 正式會員 120.xxx.xxx.202 |
2015-10-29 10:07 |
| [#48] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 出現這種問題純以理論分析，我唸到以下兩點： 1. 電源---機器內部經大水塘後之直流不夠穩定 2. 喇叭---使用中的喇叭設計不良，單元與單元之間聲干涉 1. 飛開隔離牛及電源處理器，吾得就加大大水塘或退交連電容 2. 借另一對喇叭試試 |
klhoi 正式會員 113.xxx.xxx.82 |
2015-10-29 12:04 |
| [#49] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 # 47 事實不同的線才上到某一個價位都是 "動態大 音場廣 背景靜和分析力强" 最多加多一兩個形容詞. 我不是在踩Voodoo (我以前都問人借用過) , 不過同樣價位的線好多, 唔一定話佢係最好. 又者, 還原聲音都主要是靠喇叭, 而喇叭又靠擺法左右效果, 線才還是次要. 都是一句, 還原基本步, 一點一點加入去試後終會找到問題. |
kl122002 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.218 |
2015-10-29 13:53 |
| [#50] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 以小弟的經驗, #2係正確 其次前級也有好大的影響, 最後先係cabling同被震 |
kit271 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.194 |
2015-10-29 14:22 |
| [#51] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 140呎房間用書架仔比較合適 7呎闊放3路座地 , 聲音可能唔夠空間擴散 造成反射聲太大 , 會嚴重干擾直接聲 試下喇叭擺闊邊 |
mark1 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.197 |
2015-10-29 18:07 |
| [#52] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 1.43m between speakers may be too short but you seem to have installed a lot of diffusors and other things to that particular dedicated corner .... it seems you won't consider placing the speakers along the longer walls ... Some possibilities 1. if you wanna keep that corner as listening area, is the diffusor right next to the speakers movable? And if so, will it free some space for moving the speakers further apart? 2. Is your ceiling below or around 8 ft? Have you installed diffusors / absorbers there? If not try listen to your speakers with one or two big thick pillow placed above your head, blocking the reflections from the ceiling and listened what happened. 3. Have you placed a big piece of wool rug in front of the speakers? 4. What floor you are having? Concrete? Or loosely suspended wood (old type)? What cones you are using? 5. Finn is relatively small but it seems 1.43m is a bit restrictive and may not give enough space for them to form a clean soundstage. My educated guess. A possible controversial move / experiment: You may consider buying / borrowing a even smaller pair of full-range / two way speakers to see if they perform better. It seems troublesome but it's one possibility to 'test' what your area can deliver / what matches best to the width of your listening area. Finn is good in its own term but I just wonder. |
zbigniew821 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.251 |
2015-10-29 18:18 |
| [#53] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 #52: thats what I thought would be the case too |
welborne 正式會員 182.xxx.xxx.74 |
2015-10-29 18:38 |
| [#54] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 樓主，你基本上可能器材匹配出左問題，Moon石機就一定唔夠力量推3路座地喇叭。 至於你的diy膽機就唔知道質素如何，一般膽機damping factor相對較低，對於操控喇叭單元都唔會太強，而古典大爆棚係好要求後級操控力，迅變要快，動態要強，正正係膽機比較弱既地方。 |
阿鐵 正式會員 120.xxx.xxx.196 |
2015-10-29 19:14 |
| [#55] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 My room is 3m wide and 5m long, I am using 125w x2 Pre/Pro to drive a pair of stand mount speakers, it's quite OK to play big scale and complex music. Your case, maybe the Verity Finn is too large for your narrow room, or your amp is not good enough to control the speaker. I personally think it could be the apm's problem, since if you have a very high quality amp, you can always drive the speaker at low level volume for listening, even if the speaker relatively is too big. The best way to find out the problem, you can borrow a pair of small bookshelf speakers from friend, to test the result. Good luck! |
runny 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.224 |
2015-10-29 21:15 |
| [#56] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 我拉衫尾在大象聽過mono 300Bx2 推二路木箱播貝七，迅變，動態，我都唔知點形容。 |
Yanki820 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.220 |
2015-10-29 23:05 |
| [#57] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 非常多謝各位師兄, 给予寶貴的建議，到目前為止，睇咗各位師兄既經驗分享後，發覺每一個環節都可以係culprit導致大棚交嚮樂播出亂野的， 不過按各位師兄既建議的, 將一個個可能的問题點核查，就最终可以找出亂野的原因的。 继續先回复返師兄既一些問题： (1) 喇叭擺位，暫時只可以較長位面向，由于两側的擴散，吸收係比較難移動的。另外喇叭以較長的方向面向，應該對低音處理較為容易啲。 (2) Ceiling is 2.7m height: also at the 1st reflection point installed absorbers as well as with some curtain covered up the ceiling at around the rear side of the speakers. (3) Wool rug has been placed in front of the speakers before, but somehow vocal music got some sandy effect come out, then further placed some thick cardboard (e.g. disassembled carton boxes ) on top of the large wool rug, then the vocals became more clearer without sandy effect anymore. (4) The original floor is laid by marble, but as mentioned in front of the speakers already put the large wood rug (with cardboards on top) and put many wooden stuff (like wooden boards etc.,) at the rear of the speakers areas to avoid reflection… etc.. Now only the listening areas is still marble… (5) The cones ?- what is that ? (6) 有試過由CD機接入AMP (石/膽機), CD機有RCA出, 跳過到DAC, 但出大棚野都係亂。 (7) 有試過關掉及拔起cas，router，有線電等之電源，再聽, 但一样…. 因為CAS 插和功放和CD/DAS 已经是各自隔离咗既的插。… (8) 飛開隔離牛及電源處理器，电源输入會差咗，連人聲音都會更差，不清的！ (9) 電源缐: (a) 功放有試過 : PS audio AC12, AC10, AC3, Furutech Alpha 3, 和 DIY西電，和 其它 DIY 美國古董缐， (b) Cd/DAC : furutech TCS-21, voodoo, DIY W.E. , Klanf film (50s/60s), 和其它DIY 電源缐. (10) 致于有關避振 野，可否請師兄推荐下，信價比，比較好的牌子和型號，我吾係太熟？ 再次多謝各位師兄的指教，真係學咗好多野。 最後修改時間: 2015-10-31 00:03:56 |
jamesckm 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.22 |
2015-10-30 23:50 |
| [#58] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 That's means you need a powerful power amplifier ! |
sunny 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.119 |
2015-10-31 00:35 |
| [#59] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 Arrange a field test. Pretty sure is the Moon amp insufficient power to drive the hard-to-drive loading of the VA boxes. Seem it before and fixed. |
com-buddy 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.90 |
2015-10-31 01:28 |
| [#60] 請教改善聽大棚的交嚮樂的經驗 Just for your reference. My second set of equipment: 1. Speaker: Also VA, model Parifal Ovation, bigger than FINN. 2. Amp: either a 300Wx2 Class A Krell or a newly purchased Accuphase A70 (Calss A 60W x 2) 3. CDP: Mainly use Accuphase DP-720 4. Pre-Amp: Accuphase C-2810 No problem with 大棚交嚮樂 with the 60W x 2 Amp at all. No filter for AC used. All connected to 220V AC directly. |
paulpoon168 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.226 |
2015-10-31 01:42 |
