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[#41] emm Labs 同好會  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 11:58:23 |
simcity 正式會員219.xxx.xxx.115 |
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[#42] emm Labs 同好會  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 11:59:36 |
simcity 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.115 |
2010-01-23 11:59 |
[#43] emm Labs 同好會  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 12:01:18 |
simcity 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.115 |
2010-01-23 12:01 |
| [#44] emm Labs 同好會 The DCC2SE previously owned by Andreas Koch.  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 17:27:58 |
john_weiser 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.225 |
2010-01-23 17:16 |
[#45] emm Labs 同好會  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 17:29:22 |
john_weiser 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.225 |
2010-01-23 17:23 |
[#46] emm Labs 同好會  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 17:31:55 |
john_weiser 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.225 |
2010-01-23 17:26 |
[#47] emm Labs 同好會  最後修改時間: 2010-01-23 17:30:44 |
john_weiser 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.225 |
2010-01-23 17:30 |
| [#48] emm Labs 同好會 Just share with you the first generation EMM Labs transport. We have to buy a Philips SACD1000 and send to EMM Labs in Canada and they insert a SACD module in the Philips machine which has a premade slot to insert the module. So it carries both Philips logo and the EMM Labs logo  |
Mahler 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.5 |
2010-01-24 22:44 |
| [#49] emm Labs 同好會 resend photo  |
Mahler 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.5 |
2010-01-24 22:48 |
| [#50] emm Labs 同好會 There were quite some problems with these first generation transports. Many of them suddenly fails and there were a lot of discussions and proposals on the internet, some say is too hot some say is the intrisic failure of the Philips drive. But there was no remedy for the failure so they have to develope their own transport in a hurry to replace these first generation transport. Mine lasted about 2 years and then fails. Actually my friend and I must be the oldest HK customer of EMM Labs because we bought our transport and DAC6e and Switchman3 on the internet directly from EMM Labs in Canada about 6 years ago. There was no HK dealer at that time.  |
Mahler 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.5 |
2010-01-24 22:57 |
| [#51] emm Labs 同好會 By the time my transport and my friend's transport both failed at almost the same time after using for 2 years there is now a HK dealer but again they failed to repair the transport and we have to go for the newer second or third generation transport the CDSD and with black EMM Labs logo one. The character changes a little with more clarity in this new transport. Although there is a newer version of DAC6e with improved boards etc but it was too expensive to upgrade so I continue to use the first generation DAC6e until now. I would say this pair of transport and DAC is the best I have owned so far. My previous CD players included Mark Levinson 31.5 dCS Elgar with upsampler 972, Prismsound ADA8, Wadia 8. None has served me as long as this pair 6 years now and I intend to keep them for a long long time. I auditioned the Playback Design and I think it is an improvement over my EMM Labs system especially in terms of attacks and depth of soundstage but the upgrade price is too high and not worth it. I believe the newer XDS1 may be even better because it uses the top VRDS Esoteric drive instead of the VOSP by Playback Designs. Would be keen to listen to that. But recently I found out that the potential of my EMM Labs has not been fully revealed after I purchased a set of Antelope clock Trinity+10M atomic clock to use onto the system. The soundstage, tone colour and timbre of orchestra has escalated several levels. With use of Antelope clock as the master clock feeding to both transport and DAC the improvement is three or four times that of the improvement of the Playback Designs over the EMM Labs. So for me there is no need to change gears for a long long time.  |
Mahler 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.14 |
2010-01-24 23:23 |
| [#52] emm Labs 同好會 Mahler兄 Antelope clock Trinity+10M atomic clock 是兩個clock 嗎? 您怎樣接駁入emm lab 的盤和dac 上,可以影些相給我參考一下嗎 ?謝謝 |
紅色小人 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.45 |
2010-01-24 23:47 |
| [#53] emm Labs 同好會 The signal carried in the digital cable between transport and DAC contains both data and the clock in one cable and it is one of the cause of jitters because there is interference between the clock and data. In professional or High end equipments the data and clock are separated and carried by different cables. In EMM Labs we use 3 AT&T cables to carry data and clock separately. This helps reduce jitter as well as let us use an external clock to serve as a master clock to control or synchronize both the transport and the DAC. There is usually already a clock in the DAC and transport but the accuracy is usually only in the range of 10ppm(parts per million). Commercially available clocks like Drawmer M clock or Apogee Big Ben can achieve an error rate of about 1ppm. Antelope OCX clock(third generation) can achieve an error rate of 0.01ppm. Antelope Trinity(4th generation) can achieve 0.001ppm. If one adds on the Antelope 10M atomic clock to either OCX or Trnity it can achieve an error rate ot 0.03ppb(part per billion)or error of 1 second in 1000 years. The OCX and Trinity can be used alone but the 10M must be used with either OCX or Trinity but the result is best when used with Trinity. In EMM Labs transport there is a BNC port for external wordclock in. Simlarly there is also a BNC port in DAC6e for external clock in. From the Antelope clock which has several BNC clock outs which you can connect to these external clock ins and then push the plug to BNC instead of optical in the transport and choose external clock in the DAC frontplate then you will be using the external Antelope clock. For Antelope clock you can check out their website www.antelopeaudio.com Esoteric also has the G0 atomic clock and G3 clock which can also be used in a similar manner. I have not personally tried them on the EMM Labs but my impression and my other friends' impression of Esoteric equipemnts are that they are a bit overanalytical.  |
Mahler 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.14 |
2010-01-25 00:29 |
| [#54] emm Labs 同好會 thank you mahler hing for ur sharing...............my saliva is coming out from my mouth.......... |
cocacola99 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.81 |
2010-01-25 01:26 |
| [#55] emm Labs 同好會 Agree, Mahler 兄, antelope is "a must" to a high end system now. incredible performance...... |
kerds 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.42 |
2010-01-26 01:36 |
| [#56] emm Labs 同好會 我覺得一 xds1 一插 dac2...........質感, 音場, 結象....... 即係 ko 單拖 xds1.......... _______________________________________________ 玩左幾日....系真的XDS1 + DAC2 系好D....可惜 CDSD SE 燒左FUSE, 吾系可以A/B/C..... |
kerds 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.42 |
2010-01-26 01:37 |
| [#57] emm Labs 同好會 多謝mahler 的詳細解釋. 簡單0的講 ocx 和trinity, 而ISOCHRONE 10M就要同OCX 或 TRINITY一齊才能夠用. 但效果就最好. 因為我都是使用EMM LAB CDSD /DCC2 .假設我想買OCX 是否把OCX BNC 的CLOCK OUT 插去EMM 唱盤的 CLOCK IN(BNC)到,再巴另一個OCX 的CLOCK OUT 插去DAC的DAC CLOCK IN ? 最後修改時間: 2010-01-26 16:19:34 |
紅色小人 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.44 |
2010-01-26 16:18 |
| [#58] emm Labs 同好會 mahler 兄, 呢排機都係你的? 好似全部係 pro 機, 可唔可以介紹下? |
cocacola99 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.93 |
2010-01-26 18:47 |
| [#59] emm Labs 同好會 Grimm Audio CC1 also good and simple External Clock solution. http://www.grimmaudio.com/cc1grimm.htm  |
hercules 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.177 |
2010-01-26 20:39 |
| [#60] emm Labs 同好會 紅色小人兄: 你說的做法全中不過仲要將transport和DCC2的clock 制轉去External. cocacola99兄: 除了兩個Antelope clock Trinity 及10M外 還有我的Earthwork前級及MC2後級，它們都是專業器材但作家用也可算超值但也有缺點如冇remote，後級力大無窮1250Watt任何喇叭也推到離哂箱但會有些風扇聲。還有Prismsound Orpheus是我的firewire 解碼用作播電腦音樂files用，質素很高也可用clock但CAS我還在探索階段，音效和EMM Labs比還有很大距離。Cocacola兄用什麼器材? |
Mahler 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.112 |
2010-01-27 00:42 |
