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| [#41] Jeff Rowland 同好會 emc1, Mail received, many thanks !! |
Ming sir 219.xxx.xxx.59 |
2004-04-15 23:03 | |
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| [#42] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Hi, emcl. Upgrade the Synergy to Coherence if you can find one in good condition. It will be a collector's item. Though not formally announced, JRDG has stopped the production of Coherence II. If you insist to put in an order, you probably have to wait more than a year before JRDG collect sufficient orders to make one batch run. I have 2 sets of speakers for the main system, the Apogee Stage and B&W M802 Series3. Both of them were dirt cheap nowadays. I use the older Mark Levinson HPC 1.5m balanced interconnects throughout as they are very neutral. For speaker cables, I was using Nordost Blue Heaven 18 feet run but they don't match 802 well and I am still trying various brands. I would be very happy to find another pair of Randall Research 14" for bi-amping as I only collect 1 pair so far. (Ever heard of the name before? That was the first generation of hifi cables introduced to HK by Mr. Winston Ma of Golden String in the eighties) Another option will be a pair of first generation Cello speaker cables as they are fast and a lot of details, perfect to match my old amps. For power cables, I will Harmonic Technology right now as they are cheap and reasonably good. As I need to use a lot of cables, I have to be cost cautious. |
yukclee 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2004-04-16 10:32 |
| [#43] Jeff Rowland 同好會 #14 - not a good number tim! I am using SynergyIIi and 302, Elrod Signature 3 PC. Good high and low extension, fast. yukclee, I think JRDG stop production of Coherence already. 201 is 4xxxx, Synergy IIi is 4xxxx. Happy listening! |
special25 210.xxx.xxx.60 |
2004-04-16 10:46 |
| [#44] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Hi Special25 hing, I'm interested in 302. What speaker are your using now and what interconnect btwn pre and power..Cardas? Thx a lot |
herb 65.xxx.xxx.59 |
2004-04-16 10:55 |
| [#45] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Hello, Herb hing, I am using Opus Ceramique. I used to use Quadro Fils, just switched to Argento which is more balance than the Quadro Fils. Note: it's very depend on the set up and the room acoustic. |
special25 210.xxx.xxx.60 |
2004-04-16 11:21 |
| [#46] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Special25, Nice to join us. Are you using Elrod in pre and power ? Have you tried Amazing grace in power amp ? You have some experience in using VDM, right ? Is it same level of Venture UR ? yukclee, Thank you for your share. You have a lot of experience in bi-amping. Is vertical bi-amping better than horizontal bi-amping ? Members : 1.EMC1 2.OldPC 3.Sims 4.Barry 5.kcyuen(potential memeber) 6.JeffRowland 7.008 8.acck 9.chrisloh 10 honeybee(old member!? hehe..) 11.拳拳小書僮 12.saikeing 13.yukclee 14.left to potential buyer ? ? 15.special25 (good position .. ha ha ^^) |
emc1 218.xxx.xxx.167 |
2004-04-16 11:22 |
| [#47] Jeff Rowland 同好會 I am using Elrod in 302, Magic Gem in Synergy. I have not had any experience with AG, but Leo said they are similar character, so I go for the cheaper Elrod. I have not used Venture UR, so sorry, can not answer your question. People telling me Siltech (similar price range)is better than UR. |
special25 210.xxx.xxx.60 |
2004-04-16 11:35 |
| [#48] Jeff Rowland 同好會 IMHO... Elrod is analytical, warmer in sounding with a touch of elegance; AG is highly analytical, transparent, straight and colourless.. Siltech old G3 Gold beats UR. For attaining VERY comparable performance, if not better, but at much lower cost WW cable is also a good choice. Another one I would recommend is Acapella. > > > From 10. honeybee (old member!? hehe..) |
honeybee 165.xxx.xxx.110 |
2004-04-16 11:46 |
| [#49] Jeff Rowland 同好會 special25, No! Elrod and G are in similar class, but quite different character!! Elrod is more relax, G is more aggresive. |
LeoChan 210.xxx.xxx.117 |
2004-04-16 12:13 |
| [#50] Jeff Rowland 同好會 >>> Elrod is more relax, G is more aggresive. most appropriate description ~~~ |
honeybee 165.xxx.xxx.110 |
2004-04-16 12:20 |
| [#51] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Thank you special25. Jeff + Avalon...perfect combo!!!! Do you think NBS Omega II pc is also a good choice for 302? If not, any good suggestion? Siltech Forbes Lake(G6) and Argento VDM - Which interconnect do you think is better for pre(Linn)-->power(302)? Thx Herb |
herb 65.xxx.xxx.59 |
2004-04-16 12:47 |
| [#52] Jeff Rowland 同好會 IMHO, VDM is of higher league than Forbes Lake ~~ |
honeybee 165.xxx.xxx.110 |
2004-04-16 14:01 |
| [#53] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Thx honeybee. Is VDM more suitable for front end equipments or is it equally good for power amp? Herb |
herb 65.xxx.xxx.59 |
2004-04-16 14:36 |
| [#54] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Hi, emcl. It may not make much difference in my case as they are 4 monoblocks. But I like horizontal bi-amping in most cases. It is personal taste and is not an absolute answer. Best way is just to try it out and see which arrangement one like most as it is just swapping cables and no extra cost. Yes, I look at JRDG web site and they have announced the end of production of Coherence II. It is quite a pity to see Model 9 and Coherence II gone anymore as they are a major milestone in JRDG development. I will be most happy if I can have 4 Model9s (not counting the batteries) and a late model Coherence II. |
yukclee 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2004-04-16 15:22 |
| [#55] Jeff Rowland 同好會 High Hands, How much for the new or used Coherence II, please share. |
NEWBOY 61.xxx.xxx.50 |
2004-04-16 16:46 |
| [#56] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Special25, Can you share more about the performance of MagicGem PC in synergy ? Honeybee, Thank you for your information on VDM. Is it higher league than Argento SR ? Which one is more suitable than JR's combo ? yukclee, What is the main strong points of coherence II over the synery IIi ? Is it comparable/performance near to other reference pre e.g Mark 32 or MBL 6010D ? |
emc1 218.xxx.xxx.167 |
2004-04-16 21:28 |
| [#57] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Sorry honeybee, It should be " Which one is more suitable in JR's combo ? " |
emc1 218.xxx.xxx.167 |
2004-04-16 21:29 |
| [#58] Jeff Rowland 同好會 elrod n jeff power is good match |
willy 218.xxx.xxx.55 |
2004-04-16 22:30 |
| [#59] Jeff Rowland 同好會 Willy, How about NBS omega series for JR power ? Is it also good match ? |
emc1 218.xxx.xxx.167 |
2004-04-17 00:10 |
| [#60] Jeff Rowland 同好會 emc1, R33 2nd price for your ref: SR ~10k VDM ~16.8k one can tell VDM is of higher league, but costs more. VDM has discontinued and replaced by SMR (>33k new)... |
honeybee 218.xxx.xxx.53 |
2004-04-17 00:23 |