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[#41] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
emc1,

Mail received, many thanks !!
Ming sir
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2004-04-15 23:03
[#42] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Hi, emcl.
Upgrade the Synergy to Coherence if you can find one in good condition. It will be a collector's item. Though not formally announced, JRDG has stopped the production of Coherence II. If you insist to put in an order, you probably have to wait more than a year before JRDG collect sufficient orders to make one batch run.
I have 2 sets of speakers for the main system, the Apogee Stage and B&W M802 Series3. Both of them were dirt cheap nowadays.
I use the older Mark Levinson HPC 1.5m balanced interconnects throughout as they are very neutral. For speaker cables, I was using Nordost Blue Heaven 18 feet run but they don't match 802 well and I am still trying various brands. I would be very happy to find another pair of Randall Research 14" for bi-amping as I only collect 1 pair so far. (Ever heard of the name before? That was the first generation of hifi cables introduced to HK by Mr. Winston Ma of Golden String in the eighties) Another option will be a pair of first generation Cello speaker cables as they are fast and a lot of details, perfect to match my old amps.
For power cables, I will Harmonic Technology right now as they are cheap and reasonably good. As I need to use a lot of cables, I have to be cost cautious.
yukclee
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2004-04-16 10:32
[#43] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
#14 - not a good number tim!

I am using SynergyIIi and 302, Elrod Signature 3 PC. Good high and low extension, fast.

yukclee, I think JRDG stop production of Coherence already.

201 is 4xxxx, Synergy IIi is 4xxxx.

Happy listening!
special25
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2004-04-16 10:46
[#44] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Hi Special25 hing,
I'm interested in 302. What speaker are your using now and what interconnect btwn pre and power..Cardas?

Thx a lot
herb
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2004-04-16 10:55
[#45] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Hello, Herb hing,

I am using Opus Ceramique.

I used to use Quadro Fils, just switched to Argento which is more balance than the Quadro Fils.

Note: it's very depend on the set up and the room acoustic.
special25
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2004-04-16 11:21
[#46] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Special25,
Nice to join us. Are you using Elrod in pre and power ? Have you tried Amazing grace in power amp ? You have some experience in using VDM, right ? Is it same level of Venture UR ?

yukclee,
Thank you for your share. You have a lot of experience in bi-amping. Is vertical bi-amping better than horizontal bi-amping ?

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2004-04-16 11:22
[#47] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
I am using Elrod in 302, Magic Gem in Synergy. I have not had any experience with AG, but Leo said they are similar character, so I go for the cheaper Elrod.

I have not used Venture UR, so sorry, can not answer your question. People telling me Siltech (similar price range)is better than UR.
special25
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2004-04-16 11:35
[#48] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
IMHO...

Elrod is analytical, warmer in sounding with a touch of elegance; AG is highly analytical, transparent, straight and colourless..

Siltech old G3 Gold beats UR. For attaining VERY comparable performance, if not better, but at much lower cost WW cable is also a good choice. Another one I would recommend is Acapella.




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2004-04-16 11:46
[#49] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
special25,

No! Elrod and G are in similar class, but quite different character!!
Elrod is more relax, G is more aggresive.
LeoChan
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2004-04-16 12:13
[#50] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
>>> Elrod is more relax, G is more aggresive.

most appropriate description ~~~
honeybee
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2004-04-16 12:20
[#51] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Thank you special25.
Jeff + Avalon...perfect combo!!!!

Do you think NBS Omega II pc is also a good choice for 302? If not, any good suggestion?

Siltech Forbes Lake(G6) and Argento VDM - Which interconnect do you think is better for pre(Linn)-->power(302)?

Thx
Herb
herb
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2004-04-16 12:47
[#52] Jeff Rowland 同好會    

IMHO, VDM is of higher league than Forbes Lake ~~
honeybee
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2004-04-16 14:01
[#53] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Thx honeybee. Is VDM more suitable for front end equipments or is it equally good for power amp?

Herb
herb
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2004-04-16 14:36
[#54] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Hi, emcl. It may not make much difference in my case as they are 4 monoblocks. But I like horizontal bi-amping in most cases. It is personal taste and is not an absolute answer. Best way is just to try it out and see which arrangement one like most as it is just swapping cables and no extra cost.
Yes, I look at JRDG web site and they have announced the end of production of Coherence II. It is quite a pity to see Model 9 and Coherence II gone anymore as they are a major milestone in JRDG development.
I will be most happy if I can have 4 Model9s (not counting the batteries) and a late model Coherence II.
yukclee
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2004-04-16 15:22
[#55] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
High Hands,

How much for the new or used Coherence II, please share.
NEWBOY
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2004-04-16 16:46
[#56] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Special25,
Can you share more about the performance of MagicGem PC in synergy ?

Honeybee,
Thank you for your information on VDM. Is it higher league than Argento SR ? Which one is more suitable than JR's combo ?

yukclee,
What is the main strong points of coherence II over the synery IIi ? Is it comparable/performance near to other reference pre e.g Mark 32 or MBL 6010D ?
emc1
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2004-04-16 21:28
[#57] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Sorry honeybee,

It should be " Which one is more suitable in JR's combo ? "
emc1
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2004-04-16 21:29
[#58] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
elrod n jeff power is good match
willy
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2004-04-16 22:30
[#59] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
Willy,
How about NBS omega series for JR power ? Is it also good match ?
emc1
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2004-04-17 00:10
[#60] Jeff Rowland 同好會    
emc1,

R33 2nd price for your ref:

SR ~10k

VDM ~16.8k

one can tell VDM is of higher league, but costs more.

VDM has discontinued and replaced by SMR (>33k new)...
honeybee
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2004-04-17 00:23
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