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[#41] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
CHI兄,久違了,近來好吧
k.c.78
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2018-12-29 18:08
[#42] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
Linn arm 頂到9克重唱頭左右,Denon 似乎已去到盡!另一是VTA set左末?可提升小小支臂声会通小小的!可試試不用$的.祝成功!
Bigfinger
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2018-12-29 18:13
[#43] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
k.c.78兄,

如你所指在英國的Chi, 先多謝問好,我尚好。我亦有留意荃灣友的留言因而知道你在半退休享受人生樂趣。

Happy New Year.
fotheringay
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2018-12-29 20:09
[#44] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
臂頭compliance 不合,唔會做成好濛。冼唱針先la
dkyyu
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2018-12-29 20:22
[#45] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    

I believe the first production of LP12 was using either Grace 707 or SME 3009 tonearms before Linn designed and OEM Basik and later Akito and EKOS from Japan.

It was the time that most carts were of high compliance, light tracking MM cartridges. I did have Grace 707 and ACUTEX MM carts installed with the LP12. It was wonderful when tracking as low as 1g. I must say I didn't expect the details and the punch from this combo.

My own Grace 707 has the extra metal ring attachment to the counterweight which adds more mass(weight) so that it could use with some MC carts.

What I am trying to say is that if you haven't any MM carts perhaps getting one to try. It doesn't cost much and it gives you another perspective.







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fotheringay
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2018-12-29 20:30
[#46] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
奇怪 無人問這 二手 Linn LP12 裝備為何 ?

電源: Basik, Valhalla, Lingo,...etd.

摩打 : 成幾十年, 衰老 ? 健康?

Bearing : Per-cirkus, Cirkus,

臂板 三粒螺絲, 鬆 定 緊.

頂平板, 彎了?

臂缐, Basik 臂, 乜幾十年了?

一個幾十年舊唱盤, 無神話的.

聲有點矇是很主觀, 可能別人覺正常, 尤其是未玩過其它盤的


所以其實整件事乜正常.
blue-ray
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2018-12-29 20:32
[#47] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
I would agree with blue-ray.

Honestly speaking, playing with LP12 could be a trap and at least a pain in the bum, especially with old relics.

I think the new owner could do a reading with the LP12 thread here and more about tweaking information from the net.

"no pain, no gain" is best to describe when owning LP12.
fotheringay
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2018-12-29 20:39
[#48] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
Sidetrack a little bit.
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"一個幾十年舊唱盤, 無神話的."

Except when you are talking Garrard 301, EMT, Thorens TD124 and the 神話 is the price now.

My Lenco GL-75 is 一個幾十年舊唱盤, 無神話的(cheap as peanut), just playing music and fun when being "slaughtered" by me.

fotheringay
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2018-12-29 20:54
[#49] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
Thanks fotheringay

After 10 years of pain, I am very happy now, but my LP12 only has the blet and and springs are genuine Linn parts.

點解好似二支唱針播緊. 咁Slaugther

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blue-ray
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2018-12-29 20:56
[#50] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    

You are welcome.

We did exchange words when more active in LP12 Thread. Those were the days.

Happy New Year everyone.

"人生何處不相逢"



fotheringay
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2018-12-29 21:01
[#51] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    

也算高清吧

blue-ray
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2018-12-29 21:06
[#52] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
臂頭compliance 不合,根本就無法發揮系統本來質素,唔好講話會濛,嚴重甚至拆聲。
Kkkkiu
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2018-12-29 22:13
[#53] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
#52,

I don't think "濛,嚴重甚至拆聲" as described in #52 would happen in the properly set up combination of Linn arm and DL103R, albeit they are not the perfect match to anyone highest satisfaction.

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dkyyu
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2018-12-29 23:19
[#54] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
如果另買唱頭最大應gram幾重才合?
tom9
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2018-12-29 23:21
[#55] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
I am a DIYer and not a person who understands the technical sides of Hi-Fi so "臂頭compliance 不合,根本就無法發揮系統本來質素,唔好講話會濛,嚴重甚至拆聲。" and "臂頭compliance 不合,唔會做成好濛。冼唱針先la" are at the same spectrum of the equation and I would accept both.

As said by blue-ray "聲有點矇是很主觀, 可能別人覺正常, 尤其是未玩過其它盤的" I would suggest to tom9 that why don't you upload some sound from the two different decks? I know it is not 100% representation of the original sound but if he could just use the same mobile phone to capture some sound or even some video they could at least provide some reference for us.

This could be too much to ask for tom9 but I hope he understands that we are all eager to help, as a vinyl lover personally.
fotheringay
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2018-12-30 04:11
[#56] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
Suggest to search vinylengine.com for reference of most cartridge weight.


dkyyu
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2018-12-30 09:10
[#57] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
mismatch of cartridge compliance vs combined weight of cartridge+headshell(incl screws)+effective tonearm mass results in resonant frequency falling into audible frequency range (20-20KHz) or in the area where record warps and rumble are problematic (below 5Hz). there's a spike at this resonant frequency in the response curve.

some people suggests limiting resonant frequency to 10 to 14Hz range.

in case of mismatch, you will hear a bloated sound at this frequency. or, it will exaggerate the effective of rumble produced by the turntable.




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bambino
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2018-12-30 09:47
[#58] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
up下.

唔同盤 唔同聲 > 唔同臂 唔同聲 > 唔同臂管線 唔同聲.
cornercube
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2018-12-30 10:21
[#59] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
唔同人玩仲唔同聲!
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2018-12-30 12:52
[#60] 買左部二手linn LP12 但聲有點矇    
Hi Chi! 見你post得咁开心小弟又post吓!
Grace 840 + Grado G1



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