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| [#9344] LS3/5A Club 只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行 ----------------------------------- I share your point :-) |
Gingers 正式會員218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-03-27 09:06 | |
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| [#9345] LS3/5A Club 對音樂理解和對聲音意識更是缺一不可 ------------------------------------- 只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行 |
Gingers 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-03-27 09:06 |
| [#9346] LS3/5A Club 就算我們窮一生之力也沒有可能完全了解音響世界的所有奧祕。 --------------------------------------- 只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行 |
Gingers 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-03-27 09:07 |
| [#9347] LS3/5A Club 其實器材很多時候也及不上調教音響技術和經驗重要 __________________________________________________ 只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行 :-) |
Ace_Hayashi 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.13 |
2007-03-27 09:09 |
| [#9348] LS3/5A Club pilotrol, 你的文章很有意思，我完全同意。 |
lee388 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.188 |
2007-03-27 09:12 |
| [#9349] LS3/5A Club Alan 老師 最同意你的"只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行" ^_____^ |
dd845 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2007-03-27 09:20 |
| [#9350] LS3/5A Club Not offensive but for general discussions. "只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行" This is 100% true for seller, as long as they can get you pay. Personally I can agree only 50%, since human ears are not even and bias, I will seek for the other 50% half for objective machine checking, half for other friends' (while best friends are polite, general friends are honest) comment. Otherwise, we may tends to be "covering the ears stealing the bell" This is more , most true for beginners who have to be led in the correct way to great sounds an physics knowledge. |
diytfy 正式會員 155.xxx.xxx.45 |
2007-03-27 09:30 |
| [#9351] LS3/5A Club "其實器材很多時候也及不上調教音響技術和經驗重要" 要理解 Pilotrol 的 "調教音響技術" 就是利用古董前級的 "高音" 及 "低音" 控制旋， 不停的轉左轉右， 轉到自己認為 "在這刻音樂應該是這樣了！" 但到下一 cut， 再來轉過！ Sorry！ 小的不認同這樣的 "調教音響技術"， 可能是我是井底中的一 "蛙" 吧。 :) "我師傅以前對我說太高調的話會有很多敵人，但太低調的話很多好的東西便會漸漸消失。" "太高調的話會有很多敵人" - 那要視說話的目的是對事的， 大不了的！ 是針對個人吧 - 那就不好了。 我們都是討論 "audio" 事情, 可不是嗎? Cheers! |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.225 |
2007-03-27 09:30 |
| [#9352] LS3/5A Club "我師傅以前對我說太高調的話會有很多敵人" As long as what you're holding is facts, there is nothing afraid. I would rather believe those becomes real enermies never due to an audio concept, but unreasonable personal attacks. |
diytfy 正式會員 155.xxx.xxx.45 |
2007-03-27 09:36 |
| [#9353] LS3/5A Club 窮風流，餓快活，各自各精采。 |
apricot 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.205 |
2007-03-27 09:40 |
| [#9354] LS3/5A Club "只要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心便行" ___________________________________________ 我相信靚聲是有一定客觀標準的,當然要達到此標準,耳仔才收貨和開心... ^^ |
dd845 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2007-03-27 09:42 |
| [#9355] LS3/5A Club I believe Thorsten is the one in my mind that he had been attacked by someones (esp guys in Audio asylum. As time goes by many people becomes convincing that he has been helping others a lot in audio issues technically and practically. Instead of telling something like 'yuen hui' magics. and 'wah chun chui chon' In HKG, we have Dr King... But he is not always friendly speech. He will pin point painfully to what your mistake. Sounds like good medicines are bitter. |
diytfy 正式會員 155.xxx.xxx.45 |
2007-03-27 09:47 |
| [#9356] LS3/5A Club Mr. Ngai, Good morning! EFM3 好用嗎? |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.225 |
2007-03-27 09:48 |
| [#9357] LS3/5A Club 窮風流，餓快活，各自各精采。 ___________________________________ 又"同惘Y飯,各自修行",其實呢d說話o岩唔o岩o既呢?有時真有點懷疑,人人如此,何來真理越辦越明.... my 0.5 cent ^^ |
dd845 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.25 |
2007-03-27 09:51 |
| [#9358] LS3/5A Club 真理可能是越辯越明，但都有客觀因素。 |
apricot 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.205 |
2007-03-27 10:03 |
| [#9359] LS3/5A Club rcwy, 那個木箱使到我條魚有藏身之所。 謝謝! |
apricot 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.205 |
2007-03-27 10:07 |
| [#9360] LS3/5A Club But he is not always friendly speech. ---------------------------------------- Eric, my tone is always friendly. the content might not be. all these remind me of a documentary i saw about music appreciation many years ago when i was back in U.K. this group of researcher's went about to understand what music is. so they went through western classical, folk rock etc. when it came to japanese, it was real fun. they interviewed a zen master about music. they interviewed a zen master about music. The zen master told them to just listen. obvious there is no music. so the researcher said. can you be a bit more specific? so the Zen master clapped his hand. the researcher was still puzzled so he said can you demonstrate a piece of music. so the zen master took out a flute like instrument and started blowing into it. the sound is not harmonic at all and could probably be regarded noise. at that point the reseacher just left. so the ultimate music is just 'silence'. forget about your hifi. |
drwkng 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.111 |
2007-03-27 10:07 |
| [#9361] LS3/5A Club I just want to share some "new found" experience after I read Pilotol hing comment. I recently acquire a cheap int tube amp with treble and bass trim. Seriously, I just love this "lo fi" but essential feature. It make me realize that I can tailor music to my liking by flickering the treble and bass knobs. I figure....since my room sucks anyway, why not just distort the original signal (music) to match my room or ear instead of matching my room to my equipment or make my room matching my equipment under the assumption that my equipment can do what it suppose to do. Maybe electronic crossover/equalizer is the next step? By adding a few db in bass or treble, the musical impact is very astonishing. I also believe this is the same reason why pro mixer always come with an equalizer, remember, the signal we hear on disc is already alter equalize sound. :-) |
jeffr33 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.115 |
2007-03-27 10:16 |
| [#9362] LS3/5A Club Jeff, I well share your experience. In fact occasionally I need to flicker the tone control knobs when the vintage amps are in fact not in normal working condition or the design of the particular amp is "dark", etc. When I mentioned is the flickering of the knobs at second/minute 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.. like steering a car in the road! That is the "調教音響技術" that Pilotrol meant (correct me if I am wrong in the presentation) that I can't agree, but not to the person. :) |
rcwy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.225 |
2007-03-27 10:25 |
| [#9363] LS3/5A Club Dear Richard Hing 相信我們大家都不是井底之蛙！不過我們大家都只是在無盡音響世界航行的一隻小舟吧。因為我們不可能用有限的生命獲得全世界，所以才可以用有限的人生在音響世界裹獲得無盡的歡裕吧！ 在音響世界有時候大家歡點不認同是可以理解，因為每個人的耳朵和心目中都有一把尺的標準也不同。就好像有人愛Leak卻有人愛Eico！其實兩家都好，只是好的形式不同吧。相信你會認同我這說法吧？但有時候我認為是好並不代表你會覺得好，好像有人愛喝茶，卻有人愛飲咖啡一樣。就是因為每個人心目中都有一把尺也不同，所以自己對耳仔收貨玩得開心才重要。 對於我來說聲音只是音樂最表面的東西！Tone control只是調教技術的其中一種而我個人則兩睇，有需要時Tone control頗有用，無需要時Tone control可以不用。如你個人認為無需要可以不用！好像飲咖啡一樣有人愛原味，有人卻愛加糖和奶，視乎你個人需要而定！其實speaker positioning, connection cable and gear matching, ohm matching, input level control, damping control...還有很多東西也是調教音響的技術。有調教音響技術可以令自己對耳仔更舒服玩得更開心，可以用最少錢獲得最大樂趣，另外也不會浪費器材本身的potential吧！ 其實不同人有不同要求，各人也有不同調教音響技術和不同表達形式，但最後還是要自己耳仔收貨玩得開心才重要！另外學習欣賞音響世界的過程也是在學習和見証我們自己的人生。 Best regards Alan |
pilotrol 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.114 |
2007-03-27 10:33 |
