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| [#1081] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? appleteapot hing, There is some difference between Internet/LAN/wireless network (external) and PCI/USB connection (local). The local connection is close, serve single computer and so much more reliable than external networks. The arrival timing should be less unstable. That's why we need larger buffer for external network and less buffer for USB device & harddisk access. Even the communication protocols for local connections and external network communications are quite different in error handling. For example, the packet size for internal connection is much larger than network transmission. You can assume the jitter of PCI/USB transmission is similar to or relative small to other digital processing (like CS8414 receiver, delta-sigma calculation in DAC IC) in the whole signal path. But, we cannot ignore the relative high jitter introduced from the computer network, especially wireless network. |
Trends 正式會員61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2006-11-19 17:00 | |
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| [#1082] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? ackcheng hing, That's depends on how you use the wireless USB device. If you just use it in file transfer from one computer to another computer that should be no problem. If you use it to play a media stream (even play a wav file only in foolbar) in real-time from a computer in one end and transmit via wireless to an USB device in another end, that should be a concern. It seems that added one more encoding/decoding process via a unreliable (wireless) network for transmission the original data packets. |
Trends 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2006-11-19 17:07 |
| [#1083] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? Fully agree with you! |
ackcheng 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.162 |
2006-11-19 19:03 |
| [#1084] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? Thanks Trend hing for your clarification! |
appleteapot 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.190 |
2006-11-19 22:24 |
| [#1085] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? ackcheng & appleteapot, 有機會大家多D交流下意見, 有新野大家一齊玩. |
Trends 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2006-11-20 01:38 |
| [#1086] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? this are what you said from the 2nd hand market "在我們的測試及其他網友評測, 這USB轉換器的數碼輸出好過Sound Blaster Audigy Platium EX (第一代) [我試過]," "個人覺得KS的效果好過ASIO4all. 各位用家又是怎樣配置? 大家交流一下" and now you said : "唔好意思, UD-10我都係裝到ASIO4all同DS, KS都係唔得, 之前以為得原來搞錯左只係我張Sound card得咋" that mean your ud10 is actually worst than a Sound Blaster Audigy Platium EX (第一代), am I right ? |
Tommy168 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.75 |
2006-11-20 02:16 |
| [#1087] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? most of the good soundcard should have KS ASIO, e.g. RME...etc.. if not, I don't think it is good for HAPC. |
sonnyrollins 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.23 |
2006-11-20 06:59 |
| [#1088] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? Tommy168, the logic seems not as you described. At the time I compare UD-10 with Audigy Platium EX, I just use Windows Media Player without any driver changes. UD-10 can play ASIO4all & DS. KS itself also claim that it is not compatible with some sound cards (maybe next version would be better) Both Tea hing's Sound Blaster EMU USB 0404 and my UD-10 also cannot run KS in Foobar. But my motherboard built-in AC-97 sound card can run KS. Is that mean my AC-97 sound card better sound than EMU 0404 & UD-10? |
Trends 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2006-11-20 11:27 |
| [#1089] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? 其實我都係不停AB比較(SRC, PPHS, DS, ASIO, KS)一時頭昏搞錯左o者(發燒友應該都試過的吧), 以為UD-10裝到KS, 其實只是我的主板的AC97 sound card裝到, 我說個人覺的KS好過ASIO都是指AC97咋. 我發覺搞錯左都即時主動認錯更正, 沒存心欺騙(可翻看之前的posts). 另外大家唔好誤會我在這賣廣告, 我一直只在二手區賣, 在這裡有人討論UD-10我亦沒參于意見, 到近期想澄清一些誤會才加入, 亦沒有多提我的產品, 只以發燒友的角度討論問題. 啊! 原來我忘了在二手區更正tim, 唔該晒Tommy168兄提醒. 其實我個人覺得聲音質素絕大部份還是取決於sound card本身, 用不同的driver是有分別, 但都是錦上添花, 不要本末倒置. |
Trends 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2006-11-20 12:19 |
| [#1090] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? Trend hing, I read the 2704 datasheet and pin 4 is "PSEL" power selector. Can I set to external power forever? Secondly, after a few weeks listening, i found at specific low frequency range the bass is not tight enough. How can I test the device? This device just need to deliver accurate digital out and no need to strengthen bass or anything. In addition, will length of USB cable matter? |
appleteapot 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.216 |
2006-11-20 23:18 |
| [#1091] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? appleteapot, the PSEL is for selecting BUS power & Self power. UD-10 has set to self-power forever, no matter the power is from USB or external power. "a specific low freq. bass is not tight enough", it is very difficult to justify, don't know it is the original recording, the USB or your playback devices, and even cables. Your feeling is also only relative to your other devices. The digital out (b4 DAC) is difficult to test the frequency response. As you said, it is bit accurate and low jitter is the essential parameters. The length of USB cable would not be a matter (since the bundled cable is not very long). I tested the cable with magnetic ring is slightly thicker in mid-range & tighten bass. But, it is also a feeling. Not formal scientific experimented. |
Trends 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.43 |
2006-11-21 00:42 |
| [#1092] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? ONKYO出左新soundcard~ 有興趣可以睇睇 http://www2.jp.onkyo.com/what/news.nsf/view/se200pci?OpenDocument |
michael23 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.99 |
2006-11-24 19:18 |
| [#1093] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? The Onkyo sound card seems cool! How much it cost around? |
bearbearloo 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.87 |
2006-11-24 19:30 |
| [#1094] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? 第一個感覺.............有無需要用這泵h電容? |
DeepSea 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.41 |
2006-11-24 22:36 |
| [#1095] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? About the captioned Onkyo sound card, is it not bundled with English driver? |
bearbearloo 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.87 |
2006-11-25 08:29 |
| [#1096] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? 粒chip好似VIA個喎......得唔得架... |
tmcc2006 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.53 |
2006-11-25 10:01 |
| [#1097] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? ONKYO soundcard不嬲都用咁多電容~唔係第一次咁整架喇 價錢好似未有~但應該要1200-1500~上一代se150都係1000-1200到 至於driver~囧銋磭Yenvy chip黎~所以個driver係可以用返公版~即係有中文~佒undl果個好似係自己改過下o既~亦一樣有中文的~ |
michael23 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.99 |
2006-11-25 21:28 |
| [#1098] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? michael23, Thank you so much for your info! |
bearbearloo 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.87 |
2006-11-25 23:41 |
| [#1099] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? 用了兩晚時間才可由頭看完，但都唔係十分明白玩法？ 我現在也有興趣想玩玩，我以前玩hifi時留下Reimyo DAP-777解碼一部和一條Venture數碼線和FA-68s 喇叭，請問我是否需在電腦加一張靚sound card，如是有甚麼可以介紹給我？ 最後當然要再購置信號線、喇叭線及擴音機各一，這樣是否就大尼i成？ 如有錯請告知，並建議玩法！ 謝謝各位高手 |
aaronfong 正式會員 125.xxx.xxx.40 |
2006-11-26 04:16 |
| [#1100] 最勁 HTPC 有可能靚聲過 CD 機嗎? 係呀~你買埋呢幾樣就可以玩架喇~ 但要留意返soundcard有d只有optical輸出~記得配合返你部解碼~ 介紹唔敢講~我諗睇你資金上限啦~肯使得多d一定正d~ 平有平玩~貴有貴玩啦~ 肯比多的話~但亦可能反而係最慳錢~直上rme9632~唔會再怕兜兜轉轉再去upgrade 不過都係睇左你上限先再決定啦~ |
michael23 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.99 |
2006-11-26 12:54 |
