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| [#121] 請教改位聴歌 zbigniew821兄 這2、3日過完一關又一關。 今早約咗師父上嚟睇。佢聽咗你嘅idea,提出冷氣機問題： 大柜後入門口位冷氣唔到，要按裝兩部兩匹機，但因公契指明現只能在露台按裝compressor,條喉要拉好長，冷凍會減。另喉去到大門幅牆有條1呎乘1呎有多嘅橫樑剛在大門之上。解決辦法係加濶橫樑4吋藏喉，咁老婆就唔like，兼兩部compessor咗住睇海景(之前compressor掛天井，宜家按露台，重要一裝就兩部！） 真係頭痕！ |
tscc 正式會員223.xxx.xxx.14 |
2014-09-15 14:24 | |
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| [#122] 請教改位聴歌 估到硬有意外野，慢慢搞，等你好消息 |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-15 15:31 |
| [#123] 請教改位聴歌 just wonder 之前compressor掛天井 now no more ?? poor ... |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-15 16:22 |
| [#124] 請教改位聴歌 忙咗多日搬屋及整理新居，又要幫太太將不要的衣服玩具分派出去。 今日才有些少時間上嚟，下午又要回舊居根據之前各位師兄的意見擺位試音。 希望能找出個好位。再次多謝各位！ |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-21 12:05 |
| [#125] 請教改位聴歌 最後修改時間: 2014-09-21 12:30:13 |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-21 12:29 |
| [#126] 請教改位聴歌 Picture found on the net |
fm104 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.9 |
2014-09-21 13:13 |
| [#127] 請教改位聴歌 Picture attached again  |
fm104 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.14 |
2014-09-21 13:14 |
| [#128] 請教改位聴歌 nice corner |
hahayanyan 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.115 |
2014-09-22 12:39 |
| [#129] 請教改位聴歌 TSCC, I am travelling abroad and no time to study every posts therein. But noted that you may use a cupboard as the partition of your audio room. Believe it or not, sound waves see wooden cupboard as nothing and so you have grossly non-matching left and right side walls. Think about this before rice is cooked. :)  最後修改時間: 2014-09-22 14:54:44 |
rcwy 正式會員 76.xxx.xxx.94 |
2014-09-22 14:52 |
| [#130] 請教改位聴歌 先多謝fm104兄的上圖及rcwy兄在旅行中亦作出提點。當然重有一路關心小弟的各位師兄，特別要提zbigniew821兄。 接著我要打篇較長的文回應。 |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-22 17:19 |
| [#131] 請教改位聴歌 因今早要交場拆嘢，昨日盡量改位試聽，事前認真細讀各位前輩師兄的意見。 能搬動的位置都盡量試，亦搬動留下的家具如sofa、書櫃作間牆用。 昨晚3am才搬完套嘢回新屋，心中頗激動已想立刻寫出感受及向各位道謝，奈何連日辛勞，體力未能支持。 今日見尚有師兄不斷關注小弟，咁真係幾忙都要先作回應。 昨日試音時驚奇地發現原先以為師兄們所提的不同意見會有抵觸，後來發現竟未有對錯之分，只有你自己要求幾多及願付出幾多。每當我移喇叭到師兄提出的位置，都一一印正師兄的結論。我不禁全身一熱因我知這都是師兄心血經驗，當中包含不少血淚、時間、金錢，而各位不吝嗇分享出來,真係令我無言感激！亦要多謝R33這個平台！ |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-22 18:10 |
| [#132] 請教改位聴歌 打得太慢，結果可能要簡單啲，附上一圖 左邊喇叭有一幅直立sofa，簡單擺位後，聽絳州大鼓，從未聽過m8O2有咁嘅氣勢。真係委屈對喇叭。 當然有某些hz有駐波，亦有其它問題要解決，最後就係你願為氣吞山河的氣勢付出幾多。  最後修改時間: 2014-09-22 18:30:38 |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-22 18:16 |
| [#133] 請教改位聴歌 重有啲時間，講多一點： 試過想符合太太要求將廚房入口改為圖上左邊喇叭右側，即係bar枱改在現出入口處，一對喇叭放在圖內飯廳內，我試用書櫃加長木板封住入口，但結果點移喇叭，人聲都在左邊。 無視左邊24吋深的木做bar櫃及新擺放的書柜木板真如rcwy兄所言完全穿透咗到廚房左邊幅牆。 最後修改時間: 2014-09-22 19:02:37 |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-22 18:49 |
| [#134] 請教改位聴歌 tscc hing, welcome back. i think we could understand how busy you are. rcwy hing is very correct. The 'wooden cabinet' partition design has a large unknown factor of bass balance. Bass will pass through the glass door more to the balcony. If your wooden cabinet is STUFFED with a lot of things like books, the bass will still pass through, though I suspect less. But still, it's not perfect symmetry. You may have a lot of things to adjust afterwards. But I think for mids and highs, the reflection control would be much better. Nonetheless, rcwy's original pic is very good - both concrete walls on left and right. The wall behind the speakers are also concrete. This will be the most symmetrical space you could locate your speakers. (I actually also follow rcwy's original advice on my 1st design template, which locates the kitchen near the balcony) The reason I posted the other designs for you is that (1) you said u need big storage; and (2) YOU SUPPLIED THE WRONG MEASUREMENT! So to incorporate many needs into the wrongly measured space, I came up with the 'partition' design. Now you have a much larger room (almost increased 1/3) and since I now feel your and your family is ready to accept your 為左hifi，今次要去得好盡 (i was impressed by you moving the gears and speakers one day before total retreat!), I have the ideas as attached in the pic. I don't have time to draw pic this time la. The biggest change is to build a 60cm cabinet at the rear wall, from floor to ceiling. I am not an expert on how this affects sound. But I did talk to some experienced guy. Just don't use sliding doors (shaky). Good quality hinged wood doors are ok if you have put enough things inside (or you could leave some shelves with no doors) You could also consider using doors with 'clothes' (see attached pic later on). If you are crazy enough you could install thick curtains to cover this cabinet as well (as adjustable acoustics). This 16 x 8 cabinet is very large, and I guess its volume is more than what you have now. Even after adding this wall to wall and floor to ceiling cabinet you still have a very long room (more than 10 ft) to play your beloved 802. And 16 ft width is a paradise. You have have a lot of space to move your king's seat. 為左hifi，今次要去得盡D ...  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-22 22:41 |
| [#135] 請教改位聴歌 the pics (borrowed from web) could be references for such a wall to wall and floor to ceiling cabinet (don't have to follow exactly ... but rough ideas). i would prefer separate hifi racks though.  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-22 23:08 |
| [#136] 請教改位聴歌 reference ONLY  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-22 23:11 |
| [#137] 請教改位聴歌 This is another example of wall to wall storage. it's only for cd and books but the idea is ... seize every inches of any BIG walls ...  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-22 23:15 |
| [#138] 請教改位聴歌 Doors with cloth covering (sending you other pics through email) all right. good luck!  |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-22 23:21 |
| [#139] 請教改位聴歌 最後一句母語回應，加油啦… |
zbigniew821 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.19 |
2014-09-22 23:26 |
| [#140] 請教改位聴歌 zbigniew821兄， 多謝你的新提議 及詳細的解說。你已為小弟花了很多寶貴時間，就算係簡單草圖，我已十分過意唔去。 我要在下星期一通知師父拉線位置，即係要同時決定好全屋的佈局,都有好幾日可想清楚。 地板應用比利時無縫纖維板。 另一個要決定嘅係入牆線，好彩有另一post「入牆缐一問」可參考。 |
tscc 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.123 |
2014-09-23 05:48 |
