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[#141] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
At 我哋一個 係咪吹水群組裏面

有人介紹用一個要百幾蚊人民幣一粒

但我覺得好貴呀所以冇try.. Haha







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hahayanyan
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2021-04-14 17:54
[#142] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
The bearing spikes are fun to play with.

Tried at 2 locations.

1. Under DAC - This is not really well placed as the original dac already has 4 big feet. Thus, the spikes need to be placed quite inward towards center. The initial impression is more focused but at the expense of sounding a bit stressed. It is more a preference but I rather not use it as dac also used for computer, which can sound not as at ease at times.

2. Under CD transport - This can be placed at more reasonable position. The result is very positive. Focus is better but still natural. Clarity is improved in general. Don't hear anything bad about it. Thus, the spike will stay under transport.

This is indeed surprising to me. Over the years, my system cannot use any spikes despite I have those crystal , springs, ceramic, mahogany ones... Some sounded stressed, some are just too slippery. This bearing spike is a very good recommendation.

Thanks again.

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2021-04-14 21:10
[#143] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
>>>Don't hear anything bad about it.

有沒有少了質感(中音)?

又有沒有少了低音?低音夠吾夠低?

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phil.ng
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2021-04-14 22:48
[#144] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
i using it under a revox CD
under some turntable..
under pair of proac speaker..

i can say..the image seem more stable......... haha...yes..it is more stable.. defined , similar as Ben mentioned "Focus is better "

沒有少了低音..or texture..

one friend also reported " sounding a bit stressed " ...under a pre amp

shall get a few more set



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hahayanyan
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2021-04-14 22:51
[#145] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
有冇師兄試過放power amp 四隻腳下面
phil.ng
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2021-04-14 22:59
[#146] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
Also 2 other guy use it under their turntable.. With positive finding too..

May be I can try to use it under a power amp after I get more.. My cheap pioneer has 5 feets haha

最後修改時間: 2021-04-14 23:08:41
hahayanyan
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2021-04-14 23:07
[#147] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
I don't hear bad things about it but I am always semi-deaf.

Understood being clearer can give an impression of leaner sounding. Yet, I think this bearing does not squeeze and therefore it is bearable while things getting clear up a bit. As for tonal balance, there is nothing that alert me to make changes.

I actually value ease a lot. I don't mind things getting blurry if this means more enveloping sound. For this spike, it is quite "loose" while sound is clearer and it makes solid contact to rack to enable me to feel comfortable in pressing buttons. This is good enough for me.

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BenYC
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2021-04-14 23:08
[#148] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
Hahayanyan Hing,

Just got 6 more bearing feet.

This time tried on amps. I placed them under 2 se tube amp and it squeezes. I then place them under a pair of old no feet push-pull tube amp and effect is positive. These 6 feet will remain there.

I am thinking, the se amps may not work as well because of the original rubber feet crowded the bearing feet, making the bear feet placed too inward, thus less stable. What if I take off the rubber feet and replace them with these bearing feet?

When you placed them under equipment, did you take out the original feet, which is usually the best position for stability?


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BenYC
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2021-04-19 21:24
[#149] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
I do not know why...

I mostly a 4 feets person instead of using 3...haha

Me..first choices i trend to replace those rubber feet with those isolation device

If I feel the rubber feet is actually do doing soemthing right..., then I usually put that piece of equipment on a piece of wood or stone I feel good about it
And then that piece of wood onto those new feet

At the same time.. Try to aviod having some strong preception.. About softer material.. Softer tone... Listen to a price of music... With some passage.. U know it super well.... Close my eye and compare it.. Again and again...

A few fact.. U been listening to that power amp with a rubber feet for long.. Henc should not having too big of any short coming..

There are still so many things.. Newton based physic could not explain... Or never... And this is one of them.. Haha

Try n try.. Honest to our own ear..


hahayanyan
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2021-04-20 16:14
[#150] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
Yes, now that you mentioned, I suddenly remember there was a choice or 3 vs 4. Silly me. It has been years since I last played with this kind of stuff.

Yet, re-visit is fun still as my preference has changed much.

Will try more. In the past, I was not comfortable in opening gears and taking off original feet. Now, I do whatever I want and pretty care free. :)


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2021-04-20 18:09
[#151] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
hhaa 3 vs 4............seem so long ago..for me.. may be 28..30 yrs ago........ i first encountered such A/B test.......


hihihi Andy3210

hows the system now ?

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hahayanyan
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2021-04-20 18:41
[#152] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
I have replaced the SC from Inakustic to Kondo, and makes 30degree+ toe in.

Everything satisfy now, and eventually waiting the A48 for BiAmp configuration.

Above A48 purchasing is follow the E650 manual recommendation, shall be no compatibility and Gain issue (Hope)



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2021-04-20 22:24
[#153] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
Wow.
. Bi amp set up.
.. Please remember to update us


Kondo SC and a power amp
Quite an investment

Haha

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hahayanyan
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2021-04-20 22:28
[#154] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
Yes sure.
Andy3210
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2021-04-20 22:50
[#155] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
樓主是用喇叭座丶又有充足budget丶將來又行 biamp

同様占地丶為什麼不換 803d3, d4 一推丶 d3 可能好平
phil.ng
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2021-04-20 23:22
[#156] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
803要十個,推郁佢又要A75+

地方又吾大,食吾落?
Andy3210
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2021-04-20 23:30
[#157] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
不過真,擺位佔左一半

呢次轉左大toe in 真係好大得著
多謝各位師兄
Andy3210
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2021-04-20 23:34
[#158] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
你這個toe in with your speaker at your room可可能你會聽多咗好多嘢

How's about bass?
hahayanyan
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2021-04-21 09:52
[#159] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
全頻有正面提升, 但個人感覺係換左對KONDO同埋聽PHIL兄提我試 Balance XLR

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2021-04-21 10:24
[#160] 前後級與合併機幾大地方先有分別?    
是否可以在你原有的喇叭擺位, and just toe in more?

真係要和多啲唔同嘅人分享.... 真係要試多啲擺位

try those rmb 3x FEET TOO

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hahayanyan
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2021-04-21 10:28
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