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[#1] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
it is a nice working Reel to reel deck...and only have one funny issue

end of tape , once the brake is triggered , it trigger the Main MCB

the blue circle is the Brake solenoid , attached to it, it is the tension arm switch K2B and a spark cap

i wish to make sure it is safe..and gift that to my friend...haha

it was also a gift from a good man.....................

delight to learn some more troubleshooting skill.........

haha







最後修改時間: 2022-03-08 17:10:45
hahayanyan
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2022-03-08 16:59
[#2] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
好單純嘅果粒spark cap 老 化 漏電when current is drawn?

Haha
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2022-03-08 17:17
[#3] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
MCB因過載而觸發,機內2A保險絲無恙?

最後修改時間: 2022-03-08 17:34:44
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2022-03-08 17:33
[#4] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
機內2A保險絲 still ok ..only the MCB..POP

good reminder... ,good reminder...

learning learning...

thx thx

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2022-03-08 17:35
[#5] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
這樣不合邏輯。
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2022-03-08 17:36
[#6] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
經降壓牛?還是國際電壓版本?

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[#7] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
i 300% feel your question is super logical, and u find it "這樣不合邏輯" is right


am also feel ...the things it happened...or the info i given is kind of something wrong..or illogical


but..cannot test it now.. haha..cannot pop that MCB at this particular moment

it was a new fuse fast blowing type






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2022-03-08 17:43
[#8] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
100V, using a step down

just check it is a 250V 2A fuse at the machine


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2022-03-08 17:46
[#9] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
正常的降壓牛,內裡也應有fuse,這樣也能觸發MCB,而兩條fuse都無恙,豈不怪哉?
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2022-03-08 17:53
[#10] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
it is a a super CT 1500 1500Watt step down

and still good and kicking with a 100V turntable

should i use another line of MCB..and run that test...

may be it is my line of MCB..issue ?

never say never..

thx thx for having this troubleshooting fun with me

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2022-03-08 17:56
[#11] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
有的話,一試無妨。
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[#12] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
yes....yes....i test it ...after i roasting a chicken...

焗緊薯仔整緊燒雞... Haha 第一等 try

搵多一個CT 2000 trnaformer and use another MCB line and run that test.. A little bit later..


Haha

thx thx

最後修改時間: 2022-03-08 18:08:32
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2022-03-08 18:01
[#13] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
Haha I love potato

slow braking..................it take 3 hours.. ( first hour - streaming...2 hours 130 degree C Air flying...)

smooth and soft outcome

Haha

Wish we all have a happy dinner later..


oh,,it is a A 2300... not the other A2300s i also having

Haha



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2022-03-08 18:13
[#14] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
呢種情況要睇下係咪用左如下圖般的"老鼠尾MCB", 即是RCBO:Residual Current Circuit Breaker with Overcurrent Protection, 一隻手拍唔響的。

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2022-03-08 21:06
[#15] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
Hi lam

Seem very similar to the one u shown, or even the same

And interestingly... I am testing it by another line of MCB.. It has no such cut off, for both forward play.. Fast forward.. Rewind.. Etc.. No issue too, it was 100/100 cut off..when it was using with my PC audio line of power

Need to triple sure it is safe . Until I give it to my buddy.. Haha





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2022-03-08 22:21
[#16] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
Haha 師兄所用的正是老鼠尾MCB(RCBO), 表面上看,兩隻手(即 MCB 和 機的 Solenoid)都係正常,但兩者都同時存在隱憂,所以兩隻手一拍即響(trip MCB),下圖簡單地解釋個中原因;
1.RCBO MCB 係用電流平衡方式去檢測漏電同過載,而且用上微型電腦晶片及ADC去實時測量電流,所以普遍有高頻不穩定和過敏情況,於是設計者加左一條老鼠尾用 safety cap. 去接地令靈敏度降低,但結果跟傳統 MCB比較也是偏高,其中也有可能係本身的 safety cap. 失效,亦有可能係電工忘記連接老鼠尾。
2.Solenoid 沒有如下圖般的 snubber circuit, 當年的機器沒有現代 IEC的 ESD, EFT, Surge規格,所以當綫圈起動時引發back emf surge流過電源線去觸發那過敏的MCB, 其實機本身是安全的,以舊機計,大可不必理會。


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2022-03-09 08:06
[#17] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
Hihi... Lam

OH.. Thx thx.. 首先知道部機器在這方面是安全的 so nice.. 用多佢幾日證實其他都沒有問題週末就送給朋友 haha.. So happy


多謝羅密歐...

經過你 邏輯嘅question 都知道自己提供嘅資料 一定係 有些不完善..

找人幫忙要自己盡力準確, 減少浪費別人的好意及時間.. Thx thx.. Learn more than one things from you.. More than just some technical knowledge and some solution

Thx


以上兩位高手 令我知道下次電工來... What to check...


每隻學多一點點真好 haha


Thx

Haha

Have a happy day..
hahayanyan
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2022-03-09 09:03
[#18] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
甭客氣!

此圖為Yamaha某合併機,外露金屬部份對地的漏電測試。如果要求不高,漏電檢測儀約千多二千元可買到。

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[#19] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
Haha... 多謝提醒我有兩個朋友有呢個儀器唔用我問你借嚟玩下先. .

如果係香港... O r target leakage current shall be 0.3ma to be safe
. Or still ok with 0.5ma?


If it has a leak above 0.5ma.., we should earth that device?

Or it is a root cause somewhere to get fix?
Haha
. Fun... To run some test..

最後修改時間: 2022-03-09 12:32:43
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2022-03-09 12:29
[#20] troubleshooting - Teac A 2300 S Reel to Reel Deck    
你提供的相片,機箱應該有接地的,用萬用錶確實一下吧。

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