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[#5442] LEAK Club    




Gingers
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2005-04-10 23:00
[#5443] LEAK Club    



Gingers
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2005-04-10 23:01
[#5444] LEAK Club    
若夫日出而林霏開,
雲歸而巖穴滿A晦明變化者,山間之朝暮也。野芳發而幽香,佳木秀而繁陰,風霜高潔,
水落而石出者,山間之四時也。朝而往,暮而歸,四時之景不同,而樂亦無窮也。.....

蒼顏白髮,頹然乎其間者
,【洩】翁醉也。


Gingers
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2005-04-10 23:04
[#5445] LEAK Club    
thanks for visiting to my home and give me some good advise. hope after the Leak 12.1 run-in about 1 month and can invite people to give him a fair comments.
m9
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219.xxx.xxx.9
2005-04-10 23:23
[#5446] LEAK Club    
Michael,

To get the best out of Leak 12.1, make sure you use VT75 and Cossor 53KU.
timtube
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210.xxx.xxx.172
2005-04-11 16:15
[#5447] LEAK Club    
sorry what is Cossor 53KU ?
m9
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202.xxx.xxx.51
2005-04-11 16:59
[#5448] LEAK Club    
Cossor 53KU is an indirectly heated rectifier which can handle higher current and voltage compare to GZ32.

Although the TL12.1 specified to use GZ32, it drives the GZ32 very very close to its operating limit without much headroom. 53KU is more suitable for this application.

timtube
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2005-04-11 17:56
[#5449] LEAK Club    
thanks tim
m9
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202.xxx.xxx.51
2005-04-12 10:00
[#5450] LEAK Club    
I have one piece 53KU. It sound better than the new CV378 GZ37 with same specs. However, it's far from WE274.

I think WE274B can direct plug in on TL12.1. with loss in voltage, improvement in sound.
diytfy
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155.xxx.xxx.45
2005-04-12 10:32
[#5451] LEAK Club    
I think WE274B can direct plug in on TL12.1. with loss in voltage, improvement in sound.
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M9 - You can achieve the SAME result (i.e. nice sounding) with the use of the "250V" option instead of the "230V" option on your LEAL TL/12.1.
rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.253
2005-04-12 10:40
[#5452] LEAK Club    
SAME result (i.e. nice sounding)
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But whether it is a better sound depends on personal taste.

A slightly lower than the spec. B+ voltage would often mean a sound with slightly softer tone.

On the other hand, a slightly higher than the spec. B+ would often mean a slightly more punchy sound.
rcwy
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2005-04-12 10:48
[#5453] LEAK Club    
WE274 loss in voltage drop in measurement only.
It sound more open & punchy than 53KU even with higher voltage output.

WE274 is a different animal that can kill mercury vapour tube and RGN2504.
diytfy
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155.xxx.xxx.45
2005-04-12 11:07
[#5454] LEAK Club    
Eric,
You certainly know more than me! My 'tuby' taste started only in 2000. I am a newbie in fact. :)
rcwy
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2005-04-12 11:30
[#5455] LEAK Club    
WE274 is a different animal that can kill mercury vapour tube and RGN2504.
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Not to my ears. Not even engraved base WE274B can do that. In fact, I think the result is just the opposite! Maybe different ears different taste la.
timtube
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210.xxx.xxx.172
2005-04-12 11:31
[#5456] LEAK Club    
Tim,
You'may be right, some people prefer chinese 6L6 over WE350B.

I haven't heard engraved WE274B, but WE274A is not so vigour and 'strong' and 'wide' as the 274B.

Richard,
there is no newbie or old hands, just sharing views so I may not know more than you.

BTW, I have a pair WE274A, using a pair UX4 to Octal adaptor can easily try out on TL12.1.

If someone can volunteer a pair of WE274B, that will be a fun party.


diytfy
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2005-04-12 11:58
[#5457] LEAK Club    
You'may be right, some people prefer chinese 6L6 over WE350B.
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That is true.

But on the rectifier shoot-out party we had before, the vast majority of the people present preferred 4V RGN2504 and R2504 over WE274B. This is a view also shared by Ah Ming of Audiophile.

Of course, your taste could be different from us. I didn't know you like Chinese 6L6 over WE350B.
timtube
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210.xxx.xxx.172
2005-04-12 12:09
[#5458] LEAK Club    
No, I didn't like Chinese 6L6. I like Brimar 6L6G and Hytron 6L6 ceramic base.

I also like WE350B over Brimar and Hytron but that're too expensive to own now.

I have many pentodes already.
VT-75, KT88 top getter and F2a11 and EL156 too. They still at reasonable price.
diytfy
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155.xxx.xxx.45
2005-04-12 12:14
[#5459] LEAK Club    
Lets have happy sharing, always. :)
rcwy
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2005-04-12 12:14
[#5460] LEAK Club    
VT-75, KT88 top getter and F2a11 and EL156 too. They still at reasonable price.
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That is becoming, more and more important, when vintage tubes are getting expensive and more tubes become exortic.
rcwy
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2005-04-12 12:19
[#5461] LEAK Club    
I also found German AX-50 and British FW4/500 sounds better than RGN2504. Just the 'look' not so sexy in a mesh plate.
diytfy
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155.xxx.xxx.45
2005-04-12 12:27
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