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[#97] Linn LP12 Fans    
I still own a 90s Systemdek IIX fitted with a RB250 arm and a cheap high output Benz Micro MC. New belt and new oil

My experience with the Systemdek is that it sounds pretty well but its performance nowhere near to one of my previous aged LP12 (serial number 26???, of course, new belt, new springs and motor) + black Ittok + cheap BM MC cartridge. Eventually I gave it to my brother for fun.

I wrote Peter Q for the spare drive belt and he praised highly to his decks. I didn't hear the Audionote's modified ones yet but most British turntable has its own musicality and charisma where no other US or German made can match with.

Should budget permit, please try the latest LP12 and its MC cartridge. It sounds much much more accurate than the old ones.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 11:50
[#98] Linn LP12 Fans    
TK,

How about next Thursday noon, that is 16/8. Service will take about 1 hour.

See whether you can join me, Edmund and CH Lee on this Friday. Call me when you return.
Dennis
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 11:53
[#99] Linn LP12 Fans    
hihi,

just passing by!!

i have a systemdek IIXE with new belt... but it runs slow and vibrates badly... is there anything i should do for the new belt? the oil is really old (since day 1) and should i change the oil? where to buy such oil? any suggestions? thanks...

btw. to own a lp12 is one of my ultimate tt goal!
aliu
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203.xxx.xxx.155
2007-08-08 11:56
[#100] Linn LP12 Fans    
Dennis, both appointments should be ok. I may have to take a look at a new Samsung PC monitor with my friend on Friday but the timing can be fixed to suit. Will call you back then.
tkchan
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218.xxx.xxx.13
2007-08-08 11:59
[#101] Linn LP12 Fans    
For Systemdek, Audionote's boss Peter Q advised me to use Singer sewing machine oil where you can get hold of one big bottle for 30 dollars.

Be warned, use original Linn black oil for LP12!!!!!

About vibration, I suspect it's time to check your Systemdek's motor.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 12:07
[#102] Linn LP12 Fans    
aliu,

Life is short and we only live once. Get the best you could afford for yourself.

Have fun and enjoy.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 12:11
[#103] Linn LP12 Fans    
Rover901,

With its bottom removed, the LP12 sounds excellent on light weight stand such as 2-tier target or sound organization.

I guess the trampolin is badly needed if on heavier rack.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 12:16
[#104] Linn LP12 Fans    
dear dennis, I agree.

do you know the price of trampolin 2 and changing plinth in HK?
rover901
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202.xxx.xxx.52
2007-08-08 12:23
[#105] Linn LP12 Fans    
rover901,

I think the old type trampolin sells for >$2K. A new type trampolin rolled out earlier this year, probably selling for $3K.

You could find one in the used market for $1K.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 12:30
[#106] Linn LP12 Fans    
About plinth,

I don't think you can change the plinth alone.

The standard LP12 comes with the cover, arm board, circus bearing and motor sells for around $27K. All finishes same price. The lingo, new keel chassis, trampolin board. tonearm and cartridge are all extra.

Give a call to Mr Lui, the Precision Audio manager for a quote.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 12:35
[#107] Linn LP12 Fans    
Dennis, I am open to be corrected but I do get a reply from Linn not long ago that separate plinth is available for order. They ask me to contact their local agent for a quote.

It could be the agent will do the change for you at a charge.
tkchan
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218.xxx.xxx.13
2007-08-08 12:44
[#108] Linn LP12 Fans    
More detail re my communication with Linn. I said to them that my plinth was damaged and asked if a rosewood replacement is available. They replied that they don't have rosewood anymore and suggested the rosenut which is similar to rosewood. They said I can get in touch with their agent for a quote.
tkchan
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218.xxx.xxx.13
2007-08-08 12:51
[#109] Linn LP12 Fans    
dear tk, how much did HK Linn charge for the plinth chnage?

I understand thatthe price of a trampolin in UK is 140 pounds, and plinth at around 230 pounds, I wonder if HK Linn will charge too much
rover901
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202.xxx.xxx.46
2007-08-08 14:15
[#110] Linn LP12 Fans    
TK,

It depends how you define what the plinth is. I understand the wooden plinth alone is not available on the price list. The plinth they called may likely include chassis, bearing, motor and armboard.

Rover910,

The wooden plinth you saw on eBay (I suppose) occasionally is never mentioned as Linn original nor OEM. It is sold from individual seller other than Linn. Otherwise, I suspect the real wood plinth alone will cost more than GBP600 if original from Linn.
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-08 14:23
[#111] Linn LP12 Fans    
Any RW33 friends will visit the 2007 HK HIGH-END AUDIO VISUAL SHOW ( the one at Conventional Center ) I heard the news from the distributor that the Linn staff will come to the show this year and he is the staff who worked for Linn more than 20 years and is an expert on setting up LP12. I will go to visit their room and share his experience. Of course listen the new LP12 set up.
Toooochi
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219.xxx.xxx.215
2007-08-08 19:52
[#112] Linn LP12 Fans    
Toooochi, yes I'll be going to the show. Hope to hear what the "official" LP12 should sound like :-).

Dennis, Thanks for your enlightening. May be I can find out the truth from one of the UK dealers.
tkchan
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218.xxx.xxx.62
2007-08-08 23:36
[#113] Linn LP12 Fans    
dear dennis,

the one on ebay is 135 pounds, DIY, self made, looks nice. but not linn original.

the one I mentioned(230 pounds) is original linn parts from UK Linn authorised dealer, suggested by UK Linn LP12 user in the pink fish media audio forum(someone claimed to have his plinth changed at this price).

HK dealer charge HK LP12 user for GBP600???

Maybe I just order one from UK directly.

Maybe you think I am crazy, even it is made by Linn, but I still don't think a simple wooden plinth worth more than 300UKP,:P
rover901
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202.xxx.xxx.52
2007-08-09 09:48
[#114] Linn LP12 Fans    
Dear Rover901,

I did not get the plinth alone on the price list so I only suspect it would cost over GBP600 if available by arithmatic:

$27000 - circus bearing - motor - arm board - the 12" cast platter - cover etc.

The GBP600 is a wild guess, so please don't it seriously. I still wonder Linn would supply the plinth as spare because it would take quite a big effort to put the plinth and stainless steel plate in place together if outside their factory in EKOS (Scotland in French, as they name their tonearm).

To ensure you are buying genuine Linn product, I suggest you ask for their Linn packing and serial number, otherwise, you would be buying non-QC product or simply DIY again. I understand all genuine Linn spares have proper Linn packing with serial number.

Be careful
dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-09 10:29
[#115] Linn LP12 Fans    
Just for discussion.

I used to write to UK Linn Hotline for records or spare, they would simply turn down your request and refer your request to your local dealer.

You can find their Hotline under Linn web-site. Why not calling Precision Audio in Central for more detail? If GBP230 is really the price and Linn really willing to offer plinth alone as spare, I guess Precision would charge similarly.

I didn't find it on the usual price list but it does not mean Precision Audio wouldn't try it for LP12 user as special service.

dkyyu
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210.xxx.xxx.23
2007-08-09 10:40
[#116] Linn LP12 Fans    
Dear Rover901, I haven't asked the HK agent for the price of the plinth alone so what Dennis quoted was probably a wild guess. Anyway, I can get more information from a UK dealer who may be willing to find out. What I understand is that some of the dealers did get the plinth to replace the damaged one for their customers. However, in that case, the original serial number of the TT will no more be valid. The previous LP 12 I got has the rosewood plinth and it is a replacement. The seller did show me the original Linn packing box for the plinth. Dennis is right in pointing out that replacement of the plinth may need some dedicated "craftmanship" and the work is recommended to be done by a Linn dealer. From my observation, however, the work is less complicated than servicing the tonearm or set up of the balance of the TT. It is a possible DIY job but most probably not approved by Dennis, ha ha.

There is an ebay UK seller who makes his own plinth to fit the LP12 as well as a few Thoren models but I don't recommend it although it may be cheaper.
tkchan
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59.xxx.xxx.46
2007-08-09 10:56
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