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| [#1] Low Fi question 想請問各位一D 音響問題： 本人用： cd player - sony scd xb780 amp - mf x-t100 speakers - Dynaudio audience 42 我認為聽耐了比較吵耳，不耐聽， 最近我買了 audio technica headphone (ATH A500)聽IPOD Touch,哇，D聲好好聽，很耐聽又不吵耳，聲音很有彈力，現有問題如下： 1。如果我想我的音響有相同效果，應如何升及級 2。應否將金錢改用在耳筒上（例如買耳擴） 用耳筒的一大壞處是很焗。 p.s. I mainly listen to pop music and sometimes jazz. Thanks |
cambridge 正式會員218.xxx.xxx.130 |
2009-04-16 17:17 | |
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| [#2] Low Fi question The main problem with speakers is the listening area. Is it large enough? Is it quiet enough? Is it balanced? So I prefer to invest more headphones & headphones amp.  |
CKL2 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.171 |
2009-04-16 17:23 |
| [#3] Low Fi question hi, thank you for your prompt reply. do you have any suggestions for the headphone amp? BTW, I prefer speakers more 'cause the whole family can enjoy music together. |
cambridge 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.130 |
2009-04-16 17:26 |
| [#4] Low Fi question I have both Opera and Arietta. Arietta is much cheaper but already good enough:  |
CKL2 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.171 |
2009-04-16 17:43 |
| [#5] Low Fi question 聽HEADPHONE同聽SPEAKER完全係兩回事,兩者不能混為一談. |
FirstWatt 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.136 |
2009-04-16 18:14 |
| [#6] Low Fi question The thread owner raised a question how to obtain the sound quality of headphones with speakers. My conclusion is very difficult! It is restricted by many factors, particularly the listening area!  |
CKL2 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.171 |
2009-04-16 18:21 |
| [#7] Low Fi question 用單支銅電燈線做條超長喇叭線. 再DIY條幼身純銀信號線. HK$200 OK. |
rickymartin 正式會員 119.xxx.xxx.103 |
2009-04-16 18:36 |
| [#8] Low Fi question I am using ATH-M1000 to listen to my ipod, I can tell you that ipod is quite rubbish... If you found your ipod+at headphone is better than your system, then you system is really not in their best tuned! using headpone is from the source almost directly to your ears, but a system is far more complex, and they are two totally different things!! |
T72BM 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.133 |
2009-04-16 19:28 |
| [#9] Low Fi question thank you for all the replies... I know listening through headphone and the speakers should be two totally different things. What I concern most is whether I can get similar sound effects by upgrading e.g. my speakers. Which is the most efficient way for me to achieve the similar results of listening to headphone e.g. 很耐聽又不吵耳，聲音很有彈力. BTW, Mr. Rickymartin, do you think my system can meet my requirements if I follow your suggestions? |
cambridge 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.27 |
2009-04-16 23:05 |
| [#10] Low Fi question cd player - sony scd xb780 amp - mf x-t100 speakers - Dynaudio audience 42 我認為聽耐了比較吵耳，不耐聽， Your setup shouldn't be 吵耳. 吵耳 is often a problem of listening area - one of the most difficult thing to control as CKL2 suggested. Often too many reflective surface and you play at louder volumes, sound reflect all around the room and you feel 吵耳 ... Headphone is not 吵耳 since the sound directly comes to your ears. Of course you can't feel the wide soundstage that would be achieved with a open setup if the listening area is well-controlled. Things for solving 吵耳 could be (1) speaker placemen and toe-in; (2) room treatment; and (3) vibration control; and (4) volume control :) (1) doesn't require money but a lot of patience. (2) and (3) requires $$, ranging from DIY / domestic things to professional $$$$$$$ stuff .... If you have the patience to deal with (1) (2) and (3), your system could be so much better. But you need a lot of PATIENCE for reading and experiments ... since it's not just go-out-and-buy and then problem solved ... Hope it helps ... |
zbigniew821 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.2 |
2009-04-17 02:41 |
| [#11] Low Fi question cambrige, As mentioned by other webmates, there are many things contributing to your mentioned "irritating sound" but room acoustic is a crucial one. Many people don't recommend to use cables to alter sound of a system but it works. Currently I am using a pair of ultra long speaker cable and a pair of ultra thin pure silver interconnect in my system. The improvement is stunning. |
rickymartin 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-04-17 08:28 |
| [#12] Low Fi question 用單支銅電燈線做條超長喇叭線. 再DIY條幼身純銀信號線. 有見地 : ) 不過用散蕊超長喇叭線擾亂相位不是更好嗎? 大家交流一下.. 聽headphone都好過自己set野又真係卑左d... 我都聽headphone,不過係較聲果陣, 我用er4b :p |
落雨路 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.136 |
2009-04-17 08:43 |
| [#13] Low Fi question 無辦法, 我用AWG35單支純銀做信號線. 要靠單支喇叭線幫幫低音. 用AWG30純銀線時, 我係用散蕊喇叭線 (140/0.15mm). 最慘用過AWG35銀線後, 無得唔用. |
rickymartin 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-04-17 09:38 |
| [#14] Low Fi question An old thread for sharing: 回覆(16): 有無朋友用過KEF 104/2 ? 薄聲Amp推104/2,105/2比較易玩得滿意, 但有時都要長DD既喇叭線幫幫. 用厚聲大力蛋機, 配多股超長喇叭線推,靚到難以置信. rickymartin 會員 116.xxx.xxx.140 08-12-23 07:53 |
rickymartin 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-04-17 09:58 |
| [#15] Low Fi question Hi Rickymartin, thank you for your suggestion. Where can I get the materials for making the cables? Are they difficult to make? I don't think it's easy to change my listening environment. BTW, do you all think that upgrading my speakers will have a significant improvement in my whole system? I've heard people say that Focus Audio FS68e produce very dynamic and energetic but they are pretty expensive to me. thanks...... |
cambridge 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.202 |
2009-04-17 11:02 |
| [#16] Low Fi question cambridge, An excellent speaker can sing poorly in a inproper-size room. There is no guarantee that a new pair of speakers, regardless the price, will bring you an impressive result. If it is difficult to change your listening environment, why not alter the sound of your system to cope with your room ?? An equalizer can help, same as speaker cable, interconnect etc.. As I mentioned, the improvement can be stunning and unbelieviable. Happy listening. |
rickymartin 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-04-17 11:44 |
| [#17] Low Fi question cambridge hing, "There is no guarantee that a new pair of speakers, regardless the price, will bring you an impressive result. " I agree very much ... as rickymartin hing said, room acoustics is very important. Changing cables can improve something, but within limits. Like lessening the bass may lessen the resonances (but knowing which cables is difficult! rickymartin may suggest a range of cables ...) For noisy problems, the basics is, if not changing the whole area, add absorbing or diffusing materials at 'first reflection points' or even other listening areas. A range of materials can be used - books, thick and draped curtains, carpets, professional sound absorber and so on. Toe-in away from walls can also help ... |
zbigniew821 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.142 |
2009-04-17 12:18 |
| [#18] Low Fi question cambridge, 我相信好大原因係Dynaudio audience 42唔岩你玩, Dynaudio聲準,乾淨利落,相位離軸一致性令皇帝位可以好闊! 不過你現階段應該未見其利,先見其害啦, focus audio應該係你杯茶.. 唔想換野建議你整條長身散芯喇叭線,個地方攪返軟調d,不過呢d唔多唔少都有妥協性,仲有喇叭一定要落腳架!平平地一千幾百已經好好,唔係就無得玩,o徙gas : ) thanks, Alvin |
落雨路 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.136 |
2009-04-17 12:34 |
| [#19] Low Fi question Looking back, I should have said sometimes some cables can be noisy. So changing cables may alleviate the problems thought not cure all (also apply to room treatment) :) |
zbigniew821 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.142 |
2009-04-17 12:40 |
| [#20] Low Fi question 喇叭線 - 我用緊每邊40尺 |
rickymartin 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.115 |
2009-04-17 12:46 |
