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[#1] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?

一直有甘既疑惑
FRAPPECCINO
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2011-10-04 01:11
[#2] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
我都想知
taiming
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2011-10-04 23:01
[#3] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
我也想知。
canary1964
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2011-10-04 23:17
[#4] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
乜唔係用番同燒錄1:1母盤嗰款DVD rom?
yuettoi
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2011-10-05 16:30
[#5] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
試過 L豬 blu-ray rom唔得,pioneer 隻頂級206外國評價唔錯,但貴左d,唔敢試$..因pioneer dvd-rom唔係好得...
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2011-10-05 18:11
[#6] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
甘即係邊一隻呀0:)
taiming
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2011-10-05 22:20
[#7] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?

一直有甘既疑惑

ha...
will it be MORE 1 and 0 DATA?
will it be LESS JITTER?
will it be FILE SIZE REDUCED or Changed?
will it be DITIGIAL FILE TYPE CHANGED?

Sorry just for joke!!

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cryingfreeman
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2011-10-06 09:08
[#8] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
http://www.av-forums.net/plus/viewthread.php?tid=78127&extra=page%3D1&page=1

好感謝呢位坐言起行既師兄, 做咗咋們既明燈...
frappeccino
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2011-10-11 16:19
[#9] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
del

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Royal Horse
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2011-10-12 12:56
[#10] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
>>>>will it be MORE 1 and 0 DATA?
will it be LESS JITTER?
will it be FILE SIZE REDUCED or Changed?
will it be DITIGIAL FILE TYPE CHANGED?

I have several differnet drive. The file size even changed using the same dBPoweramp! Back in Pentium III ages, the sound is different when direct playback Audio CD via different CD-ROM even with cheapie Sound Blaster Live and Windows Media Player.

Don't forget, different drive has different algorithm to correct C1/C2 errors. Also many technical review showing that Pioneer and Plextor drive with less jitters.

If u go through the Red Book CDDA spec, u'll understand why the 1 and 0 theory doesn't work at all in CDDA. The error tolerance and recovery correction of CDDA is much weaker than computer use CD-ROM. Even small invisible dust can affect the data integrity. Obviously it was a trade off for Sony/Philips engineers when they define the format back in late 1970s in order to gain for longer playback time per disc.

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Royal Horse
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2011-10-12 13:00
[#11] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
其實用平價組合有無必要去考究jitter?
frappeccino
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2011-10-12 13:13
[#12] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
I have several differnet drive. The file size even changed using the same dBPoweramp!
ha...
are the different files bit perfect from different drive?
you can then discuss seriously with mr. kent poon at cas section here!
but by the way, could dbpower rip cd? i never use this

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cryingfreeman
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2011-10-12 13:34
[#13] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
Cryingfreeman:

>>are the different files bit perfect from different drive?
Of course not, even the file size is changed. Actual sound quality also has noticeable difference, but not in a "Heaven vs Hell" degree. Hence, I'll only recommend people to invest on a better optical drive given they have high end gears and experienced ears only.

>>but by the way, could dbpower rip cd? i never use this
Both Linn and Yamaha recommend dBPowerAmp to rip CD for their network audio streamers.

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Royal Horse
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[#14] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
royal horse hing
>>are the different files bit perfect from different drive?
Of course not, even the file size is changed.

is it meant that the file size is different with each other by different drive rom? If yes, a good lesson for me. just first time to hear! I use itune and eac to rip cd and both files are bit perfect. could you share your files ripped by different driver rom?

Actual sound quality also has noticeable difference, but not in a "Heaven vs Hell" degree.
yes, eac and itune sound quality also not same. i like eac than itune but itune can save me a lot of time in organising

Hence, I'll only recommend people to invest on a better optical drive given they have high end gears and experienced ears only.

well...i wont do that I have pioneer, liteon and lg which however, LG performance from forigner country testing that lg better performnace than pioneer. (talking about the acurancy in reading and writing) liteon is most poor

>>but by the way, could dbpower rip cd? i never use this
Both Linn and Yamaha recommend dBPowerAmp to rip CD for their network audio streamers.

ok...next time to use dbpoweramp to try in future (i finished my ripping to my cd bank ~600 nos cds)

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cryingfreeman
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2011-10-12 14:49
[#15] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
你就好啦, 我望住堆cd發愁, 估計有1500隻 ...
frappeccino
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2011-10-12 17:27
[#16] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
cryingfreeman hing,

Pls check pm.
Royal Horse
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2011-10-13 20:18
[#17] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
i have no servers in my home. i am still thinkijng the method for transmission.
any other sugguestion?
cryingfreeman
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2011-10-14 09:10
[#18] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
hi cryingfree hing,

I am using dbPowerAmp & EAC for ripping, from my experience , after I setup properly for the dbPoweramp and EAC ,especially the dvd-rom or blu-ray rom offset using AccurateRIP required KEY DISC.

Then your rom is properly set. and when i rip the same AudioCD with a Lite-On DVD-Rom and with a Pioneer dvd-rom, the wav files are identical!

You can use the foobar2000 utility BitCompare to compare the solely the audio stream in bit level and you will know.

when I rip the same NEWLY BOUGHT Time Out audioCD with 2 different PCs, the wav files are identical when both rom are calibrated (offset value properly set).

When I rip a old CD (with scratch), the file size is NOT the same from dbPowerAmp and EAC and with different rom drive, it is because different software got different error correction algorithm, therefore the result is NOT the same.

cheers!
blau
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2011-10-14 10:12
[#19] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
blau

your info can save people time!
cryingfreeman
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2011-10-14 10:44
[#20] 係米用藍光ROM抓CD音軌靚聲的?    
blau.vol and cryingfreeman hing,

May be as I said, old CD has more C1/C2 errors, which different drive FW and ripping software handle that differently.

As I know, Pioneer and Panasonic drives doesn't report C1/C2 error to host software. That means the EC is entirely handled by the drive itself rather than the ripping software.
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