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[#1] Meitner DAC    
Any Ching has comment on this new brand product? How does it compared to the Weiss DAC202 or any other dac at the same price range?
ap111700
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110.xxx.xxx.117
2012-07-21 15:38
[#2] Meitner DAC    
The Weiss dac202 which just aim for CAS system while the Meither dac was an ordinary dac but also fits for CAS.
I don't think the dac202 sounds as good personally...
idt2000
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203.xxx.xxx.5
2012-07-21 16:21
[#3] Meitner DAC    
Thanks idt2000 hing. So how about the performance of the Meitner dac do you thinks?
ap111700
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116.xxx.xxx.175
2012-07-21 17:19
[#4] Meitner DAC    
reviews:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/meitner/1.html
http://www.meitner.com/ma-1.html
http://bbs.whaudio.com/thread-45802-1-1.html






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cchome_co
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175.xxx.xxx.114
2012-08-15 10:19
[#5] Meitner DAC    
不要看小這SMPS,成本不平宜,且設計精良。

cchome_co
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175.xxx.xxx.114
2012-08-15 10:24
[#6] Meitner DAC    
這三個鐵盒內,是 EMMlab 的獨門武器!

cchome_co
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175.xxx.xxx.114
2012-08-15 10:28
[#7] Meitner DAC    
real emmlabs dacX2

of course, normally, there is no the bubbers (black colour) inside.



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cchome_co
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112.xxx.xxx.251
2012-08-26 01:01
[#8] Meitner DAC    
這三個鐵盒內是 EMMlab 的獨門武器, all were sealed.

cchome_co
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112.xxx.xxx.251
2012-08-26 01:07
[#9] Meitner DAC    
http://www.head-fi.org/t/559407/review-resonessence-labs-invicta-new-high-end-dac-amp-playback-system/75



''I recently had the opportunity to audition these 3 dacs side by side in my system.

My systerm is comprised of the latest B&W 800 diamonds , Bryston BP26 preamp and a pair of Bryston 7b sst2 amps. The server used was a custom one built especially for music playback. It is low powered with no fans, high quality power supply ,a solid state drive and a separate highend USB card( $340 for the usb card ).
First I want to state the importance of proper set-up for each dac as it would be very easy to come to the wrong conclusions. The settings were different for each one to get the best sound. Also upgrading from a cheap usb cable to the $60 kimber usb cable made a very noticeable difference. This is the best $60 you could spend if you decide to get into computer audio.
This will just be a very very brief review and is only my opinions of these dacs in my system. As always YMMV.
First up was the Weiss dac 202( $6690).This dac has a built in preamp and I tried it on it's own as well as through the Bryston preamp.I preferred the sound through the Bryston as the attack was better and sounded a little more solid.For this dac I initially tried the firewire connection.
The Weiss Dac202 is a wonderful dac with beautiful life like midrange and an airy top end. The sound staging presented by this dac is exceptional with great 3d effects and front to back layering. Cymbals sound open and real . It's almost as though the drummer is in the room.The timbral midrange accuracy of this dac is superb but is ever so slightly bloated. Voices while very very good sound just a tad larger than real life. The two main areas of weakness for this dac in my opinion are in the bass region and the attack( or transient response).The bass is a little bloated and sluggish but an even bigger weakness is the attack. A $6690 dollar dac should have good transient response in my books and the Weiss just doesn't have it.
Next up was the Invicta( $3995). This dac uses the highly regarded sabre chips and is engineered by the guys who created those same sabre chips.This dac also has a built in preamp. I tried it both with and without the Bryston but found it better on it's own. It has a world class preamp section. I used the USB connection as I found this the best sounding out of the ones I was able to try. I will say right here this dac has the best transient response of any dac I have ever heard and it has the best bass control of any I have heard as well. Voices sound completely real and the right size.Pipe organ recording are so real it is uncanny. This dac also has pin point imaging for those who value that aspect.It is important to get the set-up right or it can sound slightly edgy.However properly set-up the highs are extended and sweet with an airiness around the individual performers.In the 6moons review of this dac they said it sounded virtually identical to the Weiss Dac2. I had that dac and I say the guy must be half deaf as the Invicta is far superior.At a price of $3995 the Invicta is an absolute steal.
Last but not least is the Meitner MA-1.For the music lover this dac is about as close as you can get to digital nirvana.It doesn't have the transient response of the Invicta but close. It doesn't have the bass authority of the Invicta but again close. What it does have is the most natural highs I have ever heard from digital and even better imaging than the Weiss dac202. The Meitner has a very high degree of resolution but still manages to sound musical.

So, what does all this mean?
Well,if properly set-up in a blind test I think most audiophiles would pick the Meitner or Invicta but the Weiss would be a good choice as well.
If money was an issue I would pick the Invicta.
If I was a recording engineer and could buy any dac on the planet I would probably but the Invicta.

I ended up buying the Meitner but also plan to buy the Invicta as well in a few months when I can afford it...
I was really torn between the Invicta and Meitner. The invicta simply does certain things better than any other dac I've heard which is why I plan on buying it as well in the near future.The Meitner is better on certain recordings and the Invicta was better on others. Again this is simply my opinion and of course in my system...
As always YMMV..


Edited by canuck525 - 12/7/11 at 3:00pm
batmanamesIA
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61.xxx.xxx.111
2012-08-26 04:57
[#10] Meitner DAC    
thanks for batman hing's post...I tried Weiss 202 from my friend, but not chance to taste Invicta.

I totally agreed the review mentioned: "The Meitner has a very high degree of resolution but still manages to sound musical"; And believe that MA-1 would be able to challenge all dac at this price range, even higher...



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cchome_co
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112.xxx.xxx.251
2012-08-26 17:32
[#11] Meitner DAC    
MA-1 is still run-in...

cchome_co
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175.xxx.xxx.114
2012-08-30 13:32
[#12] Meitner DAC    
Street price?
sssu
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203.xxx.xxx.15
2012-12-26 11:02
[#13] Meitner DAC    
http://www.review33.com/2ndhand/forum_message.php?topic=72121111111129

http://www.review33.com/2ndhand/forum_message.php?topic=32120916083033

dvmrp
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58.xxx.xxx.206
2012-12-26 11:14
[#14] Meitner DAC    
Which shop is cheapest?
sssu
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113.xxx.xxx.106
2012-12-26 21:18
[#15] Meitner DAC    
等機中....訂貨好久
feellikcyber
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42.xxx.xxx.202
2013-01-18 23:26
[#16] Meitner DAC    
cchome_co C Hing

I used DAC202 before. What is your comment after comparing DAC202 and MA-1? Which one is better? Have you try to connect to a computer as a CAS? Is it stable?

I'm really interested in this dac. Now considering between MA-1 and Invicta.
GP
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112.xxx.xxx.98
2013-01-22 22:35
[#17] Meitner DAC    
As I mentioned that "The Meitner has a very high degree of resolution but still manages to sound musical". For Weiss dac 202, it sounds more details, dynamic and high resolution. Which sound u like?
cchome_co
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42.xxx.xxx.29
2013-01-22 23:38
[#18] Meitner DAC    
Thanks cchome_co

No chance to test MA-1 at this moment. How about CAS? Is it stable? And DSD playback as well?

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GP
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112.xxx.xxx.98
2013-01-23 00:01
[#19] Meitner DAC    
For CAS, tried, it is easy to operate by MAC OS. how about the sound performance, it is more relied the sound source. I personally think MA1 USB digital input is good, but it maybe not better than a interface equipment (eg RME) that owned its individual power supply.

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cchome_co
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202.xxx.xxx.73
2013-01-23 08:27
[#20] Meitner DAC    
一定無買錯
PTech
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