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[#1] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
本人慾買一對高質的 91db to 93db speaker.做晒researchs,鎖定 JM Lab 的 ELectra 1038 Be和Tannoy的Defination 系的DC 10T.

jm lab年頭售價是$6X000,但星期六晚二奶QUOTE實價竟是$93000!!
我不知巳轉代理,問sales為何那麽貴,貴過英國訂價?....他竟叫我去英国訂.....他跟去看電視,對注TVB的金剛大笑!

Then I go downstairs to 月經影音 for Tannoy,那時是8:30 PM,只得我一个客,行入 hi end room, 駁了對 Haberth flagship,問sales可否試 Tannoy DC 10T,那斑 SALES 話要 make appintment,叫我明天來,那時有一位五呎五吋高,略肥sales向和我talking的sales打眼色,跟著那sales就約實我 coming SATURDAY, 26th DEC 10,試音....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




futiantemo
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2010-12-20 13:37
[#2] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
放棄JM LAB此品牌,

原因:

1.不合理加價...

上星期四看HiFi Review何森年頭有報告,.....信和代理,定價$78000,.....實價$62000!
星期六 晚去旺角二奶問價是$93000------實價!
原來年中巳轉代理,昇和Richcolm接手,大幅加價,昇幅有如樓市!

2.Sales 超寸


futiantemo
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2010-12-20 13:40
[#3] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
搵對二手JMLAB玩囉.

又平, 又好聲.

racewong
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2010-12-20 13:47
[#4] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
很久沒去這些地方....也沒興趣去...
stephen
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2010-12-20 14:14
[#5] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
STELLA UTOPIA EMの研澄まされた音に圧倒される
 ロッキーインターナショナルのブースでは、フォーカルのスピーカーシステムSTELLA UTOPIA EMが注目を浴びていた。STELLA UTOPIA EMの価格は、980万円(ペア・税別)だが


jm lab = extremely expensive

batmanames04
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2010-12-20 14:58
[#6] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
我很久很久都不去這些地方,貼錢買難受!有心水的就打電話給朋友給我找!香港的音響Sales...寸到離奇!價錢又不是平過人。
神期小羊
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2010-12-20 15:55
[#7] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
how much for grand utopia em in hk?
batmanames04
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2010-12-20 16:04
[#8] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Hifi sales no matter how expensive gears they sell they are still a sales, possibly not even graduated from high school and most have little knowledge in electronics and music history of classical or jazz!

Most believe they are also some big deals after recepting some big guns from the mainland.

The sad truth they are still nobody earning shameful salaries living in shattered housing!
S6410
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2010-12-20 17:19
[#9] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
我都在這兩間店舖受過氣。(不止一次)
第一罪:當你透明。(最好唔好左住佢看馬經)
第二罪:問一句,答一句。(都係一樣,唔好左住佢!)
第三罪:唔好叫佢試音,因為你無預約。(佢嘅時間當然緊要過你啦!)
第四罪:超級白眼。睇你唔起,望你又唔似李嘉誠。(慶慶地,有時真係想羅舊錢扔佢個頭!)
bcychung
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2010-12-20 21:30
[#10] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
如果買天朗,俾貴 d d 去返 showroom 買好過。
mr1010
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2010-12-20 21:55
[#11] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
絕對同意.現在很多代理都有陳列室.想得到較好服務,直接上去.我都聽過對天朗,絕對是一對好Speaker.
smartone1228
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2010-12-20 23:11
[#12] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
你講國語或英文,態度應該好D,起碼唔識吋你ma。
bigpan
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2010-12-20 23:23
[#13] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
兩間 D sales都很串, 問佢部機是什麼聲底,都係問一句,才答一句(不是願意回答),同佢講要試機, 佢話:係買就可以試~! 無心買就想清楚先~!! 然後就立即走開, 無理過我.  

最後修改時間: 2010-12-20 23:32:55
Sachung
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2010-12-20 23:32
[#14] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Good choice - I give up JM labs a long time ago. I was disappointed with their performance and price and many mistakes in some of the very expensive models.
jefftse
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2010-12-21 00:38
[#15] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Last year I visited Taipei's Usher. The sales were warm and allowed me to listen for as long as I like. I also asked them to switch a number of loudspeakers for trial. NOT the slightest complaint!

Even though I did not buy stuff there I have very good memory of the shop and always recommended pals to buy if they don't mind a lesser brandname (but soundwise? kick out the much more expensive JMLab Mini Utopia by a few streets!).

These hifi sales have been spoiled for decades and continue to judge someone from his outlook. I always wear jeans going here and there but if I want I can buy a Grande with cash. However I won't as I am no longer had that fever and I can't stand low-class animals showing poker face at me.

I save my $$$ and have dinner with family and friends. I stopped visiting those trash places for many years. If I want to browse around, I will do so in Tokyo or in Taipei. The Neotech cables and Usher are of very high standards. They also produce some excellent valve amps and AB amps which are comparable with the so-called Made In Switzerland stuff!

Save my gas in fxxking these low-B jerks!
S6410
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2010-12-21 01:03
[#16] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Actually I've been to some dealers with very good attitude and some very bad also. Regarding JM Lab speakers, I listened to it different models many times, but never like it. To me, they sound shrill, sharp, cold, detached from music, no emotions and no warmth at all. Sound rather like lab equipment. I'd say Tannoy and Harbeth sound much better and more involving, especially with classical music. So regardless of the sales' attitude, please find a chance to listen to them first. The most important point is you get what you want - the chance to audition the speakers.
apprentice
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2010-12-21 09:06
[#17] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
i think jm lab quite good playing jazz music
batmanames04
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2010-12-21 09:12
[#18] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Last year I visited Taipei's Usher. The sales were warm and allowed me to listen for as long as I like. I also asked them to switch a number of loudspeakers for trial. NOT the slightest complaint!


http://www.avguide.com/forums/the-whole-truth-about-beryllium-diaphragms
batmanames04
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2010-12-21 09:15
[#19] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Indeed both JMLab and Dynaudio were only good suppliers of tweeters and mid-woofers about 10 years ago. They started to build their franchise finding out it's far more profitable to make speakers than units!

However, their problems persist even today. For JMLab, it is always their loose loose woofers and the poor crossovers to the highs, which has indeed improved significantly over the past decade (although I still find it to be etching if matched to some solid state amps such as EDGE).


For Dyna, it's always their mechanical sounds and the stiff mid-woofers. The performance of its "top-notched" tweeters are actually falling behind in technology compared to Be or Diamond tweeters produced by JMLab and B&W. Another problem is the building of its cabinet, which result in an overall mechanical sound that is claimed to be "correct sounding" by the HK dealers. However, listening for a while my ears just bleed. It's unforgiving sound with little "oil" because of the lack of good harmonics and overtunes. Well at least JMLab sounds more pleasing to the ears, particularly the larger floorstanding models!
S6410
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2010-12-21 09:51
[#20] 二奶影音..月經影音......的待客之道.....left much to be desired    
Harbeth and Tannoy sounds more "right" for human's ears because they have some boost in the mid-vocals, an area human ears are most familiar with and find it most easily acceptable.

To be fair, JMLab does a much better job in presenting the whole frequency range!

Indeed, for over HKD200,000, I would consider a good horn from JBL's 9800 series, or a large B&W (although some may not like their somewhat congested mid-vocals and slightly fat bass!). For mid-range speakers, Triangle from France indeed have some very good models (although I also don't like the outer appearance of some of them). For smaller animals, why not consider Reference 3A, which can be driven to good extent by some 300B valve amps! (sorry I always think the sonic performance of 3/5A suck! They are but cheap stuff designed not for musical reproduction but for monitoring vocals in a truck in the old days!)
S6410
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2010-12-21 09:56
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