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[#1] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
各位C-Hing 現時用緊Sunfire hrs12,如想換Sub仔,請問可以upgrade去什麼牌子好?用于250ft廳睇戲用.謝謝!
levis
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2017-10-28 20:32
[#2] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
有錢買JL
pulp
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2017-10-28 22:41
[#3] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
DD+ 15, 真的夠低、不只是大聲丶外國用雙低聲 才能感受到 什麼是爆炸力、可惜 林鄭都話香港難買屋!

有分析力丶細細聲的15吋丶聴過你就明

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phil.ng
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2017-10-28 22:46
[#4] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
DD+ 是行servo amp, 好多其他牌子都冇

JL 頂班也是好野

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phil.ng
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2017-10-28 23:08
[#5] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
MK MX250, 快速有勁,唔會聽起嚟作悶作嘔
niceday009
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2017-10-28 23:08
[#6] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
如果要個sub 有room correction 及 auto match with left and right, 選擇不多、因tune 好後,可同時作兩聲道hifi 聴音樂用丶如做得好丶個sub 會消失!

如玩AV only, 而又有Audyssey xt32, MK 絕對是超班丶要自己識攞位 ,及耳朵寕!

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phil.ng
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2017-10-29 00:15
[#7] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
最外找servo sub, from Google , 有與無丶極大分別丶去代理 AB一下丶很快聽出

"Flat frequency response that is less dependent on T/S parameters. Higher output (with better excursion utilization) for sealed, IB, and Dipole subs. These benefits are all unique to a servo controlled subwoofer, and can't be achieved in a practical and affordable way in a conventional subwoofer.
Rythmik Audio • Servo subwoofer products"

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phil.ng
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2017-10-29 08:17
[#8] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
Thanks all C-Hing,

如果要個sub 有room correction 及 auto match with left and right, 選擇不多、因tune 好後,可同時作兩聲道hifi 聴音樂用丶如做得好丶個sub 會消失!

Phil.ng C-hing 那一品牌?可否給我牌子名字嗎?

如玩AV only, 而又有Audyssey xt32, MK 絕對是超班丶要自己識攞位 ,及耳朵寕!

<<<<>>>> 非常不可靠,擺位家居限制多,因十二至十五寸十仔體積唔細得一兩個位可擺, 耳朵方面,以為自己好有耳,但因經驗所限,講真自己都唔敢包做得到.如果有room correction 及 auto match 喜不快哉! 如可以請再多給我意見及資訊,唔使走錯歪路及浪費時間及銀両.再謝各師兄!
levis
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2017-10-29 15:44
[#9] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
請問Levis 兄用什麼AV amp/av pre 及 其他 related equipment?
phil.ng
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2017-10-29 17:09
[#10] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
phil.ng C-Hing, AV amp 是Y記3060,電視是 Sharp 70寸旗艦4K. player是菲記9700,準備up去Oppo 203 or 先鋒或pan記4K的(在考慮中). sub是sunfire用了多年.中置及前置都是Energy,後置及前surround都是B&W VM1. Thanks, have a nice day!
levis
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2017-10-29 17:26
[#11] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
base on yamaha av amp

kk
elac
mk

these are very easy to control . velodyne only the plus version was listenable but pricy .

and also u need a sub eq for a reasonable sound.jl was a great/ punch sub for movie or fast song but hard for yamaha to control .u may try it if u do have 250feet area .
siumin
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2017-10-30 13:22
[#12] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
siumin C-Hing, thankyou!

KK=?

MK, what model?

jl was a great/ punch sub for movie or fast song but hard for yamaha to control

why Yamaha can't control JL well.
levis
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2017-10-30 23:46
[#13] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
KK=?may say the kk was the newest version of mk ,check this out

http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=27101

MK, what model? mk 250 350 5310

why Yamaha can't control JL well
this question honestly i dont know how to answer but i do have experiences,with normal pre or av amp ,jl usually sound very fat n muddy.the whole house shake but still no punch at all .

and as i knew the pre amp have to be at leaset over 40k to control it .story was totally different . thats a crazy sub with ecxellent speed with tight bass. if u really like jl , choose 10 inch -. i do have friends using 10 inch in 7xx feets that punch ok with cary pre amp . normally cary with jl was disaster.
siumin
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2017-10-31 12:08
[#14] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
Sub 一定要run room tune 才用丶然後再run AV amp setup, 丶這樣大細聲才一至, 在香港冇room tune 多出事!某段大丶某段細,注波woo woo 聲

JL 去代理聴下丶都Set 得吾錯。平價sub 多數冇room tune.

大寸數去得低D丶易D、不用大聲

貴價sub 有分析力丶平sub 只有低音丶冇一個個note.,全連在一起

有room tune sub 個訉號先入room tune part, EQ 後才入build in amp, 不會直推 build in amp。不同 Hifi 就由 pre 直推 後級、多要ohm matching.

KK 是designer....KEN KREISEL

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phil.ng
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2017-10-31 13:04
[#15] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
>>>amp ,jl usually sound very fat n muddy.the whole house shake but still no punch at all .

What model? So that we can avoid
phil.ng
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2017-10-31 13:30
[#16] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
>>>normally cary with jl was disaster.

Cary av pre 沒有像 Audyssey xt32 那麼多段的bass eq, Cary 只有極簡單的room eq, 也不是自己開發的software, 只是simple eq build in 在 dac chip. 可google 一下。

Setup Cary 很考功力

Cary 11/12 is a very good hifi av pre, 高分析力,sound processing 弱D

From google search
"Adjust everything MANUALLY, with a tape measure, and a RS SPL meter with an Audio Test disc.
Adjust your sub with the Radio Shack SPL meter and fine-tune by ear.

*The Auto Setup/Room EQ system (proprietary) in your Cary Cinema 12 surround processor is NO GOOD (buggy and misbehaving)! ...Cary even recommends that you don't use it.


他有少少錯,不是proprietary. From chip supplier

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phil.ng
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2017-10-31 15:41
[#17] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
>>>p ,jl usually sound very fat n muddy

Can try to set THX BGC to ON


http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/982066-boundary-gain-compression-bgc.html
phil.ng
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2017-10-31 22:25
[#18] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
What model? So that we can avoid

f112 or f113 in most cases . poeple like to buy bigger that they dont even have enough space and also the av amp was not able to perform the real jl should be sound . thats was the cause .

people invest and focus too much on subwoofer .thats a bonus not main channel .

which case have better sub performance.

1xk pre + 4x sub
or
4x pre + 1x sub
siumin
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2017-11-01 11:54
[#19] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
on the second question about cary

its a great cp ration av pre at that price range . i m not saying its bad .but it really cannot match jl sub nomatter u use external eq . may be u can use lots of accessory to tight it but the thing i m trying to tell was the control ability of the sub . try lexicon mc12hd and especially meridian g68 can did a super great job on jl.the bass was punch and tight . its totally another level of story.

as i said elac or mk was easier to match n push the limit from normal japanese av amp .thats what i recommend .

for my own reference,if jl cannot perform as a jl sound .its just a decoration after all .

Boundary Gain Compression thing i did try as well but it does not affect the performance that much .

if u interest to disscuss in ht ,u are welcome to call me and share together .i knew u have great passion on ht . its glad to meet u by the way .
siumin
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2017-11-01 12:11
[#20] Subwoofer JL or Velodyn or?    
JL 好像是氣車sub 起家丶在美國時丶好多teenager, 黑鬼用、百呎外 人車未到丶聲見到、這是此廠的signature sound

樓主一定要去代理試清楚丶是不是your cup of tea丶同時叫代理用AVR 推....樓上師兄有point

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phil.ng
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2017-11-01 13:18
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