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[#1] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Hi, first of all, I am not a hifi (fever) person, and my knowledge in this area is very limited. At the moment, I am considering to upgrade to a new turntable. My budget would be around HK$40K to HK$50K. May I ask, other than Linn LP12, what are my choices?

My current system includes Luxman pre-amp/power-amp (both tube), Kenwood KD-6xx with SME3009, and a pair of Proac. I use this set up to listen to violin and other string instruments every night.


Thanks

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maxwll
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[#2] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
不換盤,黑膠以外,你應該買部network player
summertime
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2017-12-04 14:37
[#3] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
我有一台Esoteric CD機, 好像有D/A. 但我從來沒有用過...
maxwll
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2017-12-04 14:48
[#4] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
師兄:
我有一台Esoteric CD機, 好像有D/A. 但我從來沒有用過...
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黑膠跟你的現有CD機的D/A是一點關係都無!

你的Kenwood盤唱臂線直入前級是嗎? 即前級有Phono input. 知道有沒有MC/MM選擇? 這跟你換唱頭類型有關.

如果現有CD組合播放你喜歡弦樂出色的話, 只換套黑膠盤(先換盤,唱頭Phono可以用現有,之後再考慮), 否則考慮喇叭一齊換.

我用過直驅盤(硬盤)現改用lp12(軟盤), 自己的配置上各方面都有提升音樂感好很多.
ck2007
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2017-12-05 11:23
[#5] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
LP12 is indeed a good choice

you can have a very good LP12 for the budget you have(HK$50k)

A mint condition LP12 alone (around HK$15k), with a second hand EKOS 2 tonearm(around HK$20k), and a Heed Orbit PSU (HK$3k or a Lingo 1 at 6.5k if u want the Linn badge on your PSU) and a Linn Krystal MC cart, top spec in the old days

u will have a TT that produce very enjoyable music
rover901
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2017-12-05 14:51
[#6] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Search "Linn LP12 fans" 貼,上便有好多師兄達人的分享,瞭解吓係咪你杯茶再決定都未遲
比達
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2017-12-05 14:54
[#7] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Linn LP12 電子控速你還有

1. Mose/Hercules AC Motor

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue77/linn_lp12.htm

2. Mober DC 瑞士 Maxon 摩打 電腦控速


http://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/mober-dc-speed-controller-for-the-lp12.197889/

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blue-ray
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2017-12-05 17:20
[#8] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Mober DC Motor control for LP12

http://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/mober-dc-speed-controller-for-the-lp12.197889/
blue-ray
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2017-12-05 17:26
[#9] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
樓主!聽开直驅盤就用反直驅盤好了!
樂声 SP10 mk2 or mk3
先丰 PL70 mk2 or P3a
以上的盤已經好過雲石盤好好多!
不是LP12唔好!音樂感係很好!但ㄧ用落都係直驅盤好用,


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[#10] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
最近入手了一手的LP12, Majik spec, 覺得合自己口味, 也沒後悔.
入手時是看起來有點貴了, 只是當落針一聽就不會有這種感覺.

直驅盤的聲音是比LP12 爽快而且硬朗,
而LP12 就出到舊錄音中獨有的韻味.

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2017-12-05 21:22
[#11] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Hi, all:

Thank you for all your comments. I am sorry that I keep typing in English. I am just too lazy to write in Chinese :)

I think here are my plans:

1) For Kenwood, I intend to keep this turntable for long term. It is part of my childhood, and it brings me back to the good old days. The problem with it is the SME3009 Series II improved is too light (is it called low mass?) to take MC head. Therefore, I am stuck with MM. But, again, I will keep the table and arm for long term. I am also considering getting another (2nd hand) one for parts in case mines runs into technical problem in the future. After all, it is 30+ years old by now.

2) For LP12, our family used to have one but it is being stored elsewhere (long story). It probably is not working by now after all these years. Again, LP12 is part of my family too. I am asking about Linn because I feel that it is kind of old technology (40 years' old design?), and I am thinking that there could be something better in the market. In any case, Linn has introduced me the Majik configuration but it comes with a non-Linn arm. If I go for LP12, I wonder whether there is a need to get one with a Linn arm?

My pre-amp has both MM and MC input. If there is a need, I am prepared to upgrade to an external phono amplifier (if they are better than my current ones).

maxwll
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2017-12-05 22:52
[#12] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Why is 直驅盤 好用? No need to worry about speed and replacing old belts?

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樓主!聽开直驅盤就用反直驅盤好了!
樂声 SP10 mk2 or mk3
先丰 PL70 mk2 or P3a
以上的盤已經好過雲石盤好好多!
不是LP12唔好!音樂感係很好!但ㄧ用落都係直驅盤好用,
maxwll
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2017-12-05 22:53
[#13] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Did you purchase the LP12 with a Linn arm? If not, is the one with Majik good enough?


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最近入手了一手的LP12, Majik spec, 覺得合自己口味, 也沒後悔.
入手時是看起來有點貴了, 只是當落針一聽就不會有這種感覺.

直驅盤的聲音是比LP12 爽快而且硬朗,
而LP12 就出到舊錄音中獨有的韻味.
maxwll
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2017-12-05 22:54
[#14] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Are all these third party upgrade parts? Lots of options...

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Linn LP12 電子控速你還有

1. Mose/Hercules AC Motor

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue77/linn_lp12.htm

2. Mober DC 瑞士 Maxon 摩打 電腦控速


http://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/mober-dc-speed-controller-for-the-lp12.197889/
maxwll
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[#15] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Majik 的spec 是如下:
https://www.linn.co.uk/hifi-separates/turntables/complete#majik-lp12

用的是Project 9cc 唱臂, 不是Linn 自已的. 此臂比Linn出的輕身.
我的唱頭目標是2M Bronze,也所以覺很配合此臂.
或者未來會找新的 EOKS se 吧? 只是我覺有點貴, 要考慮一下.

如果想要Linn 臂, 以新機起是Akurate 的spec,
用的是Akito 臀,
如果入手此spec, 中間的風箏板, 電源, 唱針也一同升一級.(當然價錢也升了一倍)

視乎你是預算多少, 有些師兄是喜歡由2手LP12 起步, 因為平D,
不過在我入一手全新的LP12 時已發現中間的風箏板厚度已比以前厚而且結實, 聲音也實在不少.
你是可以一件件linn 的新零件, 又或者是3rd party廠的零年換上去變返新的一樣, 不過真係仲貴過買一台全新的Linn LP12.


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[#16] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
Are all these third party upgrade parts? Lots of options...

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Linn LP12 電子控速你還有

1. Mose/Hercules AC Motor

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue77/linn_lp12.htm

2. Mober DC 瑞士 Maxon 摩打 電腦控速


http://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/mober-dc-speed-controller-for-the-lp12.197889/

Yes, this is 3 rd party product.


'The LP12 is an open system, and always has been.
So we recognise that customers may want to fit other arms, cartridges, etc.
Discussion on these different parts is fine, and encouraged. Smile

We added the sub forum because there are a number of 3rd party manufacturers who were promoting their products on our forum. We felt that it was important that it is obvious to anyone visiting our forum, that this is separate from our products and we are not therefore endorsing them. '

The above is Linn official statement.

I suggest you do not begin with Linn Majik, very old technology in PSU, only 33.3 rpm, no 45 rpm . And the beginner's arm.

Accurate is more suitable to you and within your budget.

精確

https://world.taobao.com/item/42428421168.htm

Linn LP12 is fun,that is why it is a legend. Beginner happy, being upgraded to flagship LP12 are happy too. But sounds is totally difference.









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[#17] Looking for a new turntable (Linn LP12 or others?)    
The "Challenger3" by Acoustic Signature of Germany partnered with its TA-1000 tonearm is worth the purchase. Please reach Richcoln Co. Ltd. at 2489 2269 for information.
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