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[#13] Harbeth同好會    
我都買蠪3 ,但在" 友X "買,HKD9000.
用Rogue audio 90 後級,和 Metis 前級。
整體好滿意。
bennyW
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219.xxx.xxx.201
2006-08-17 00:23
[#14] Harbeth同好會    
Harbeth P3ES2的缺點, 我有以下的意見

唔爆得…以我的MFA3為例,播Bass重的流行曲音量較到時針11點時已開始拍邊

開聲 (run in) 時間比較長,新喇叭最初十幾小時,聲音可以用差來形容。所以各位要有耐性,起碼聽三日才好進行調較

原裝銅片聲底較差,最好另外買有銀成份的jumper

最好不要用來聽現時偶像歌手的歌,否則喘氣聲、口水聲、懶音等全部浮出來,影響偶像的形象。
harbeth
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58.xxx.xxx.9
2006-08-17 01:04
[#15] Harbeth同好會    
Why don’t we share a bit our experience on setting up our Harbeth. Let’s start with the most important part in my opinion: speaker stand.

If you believe in BBC philosophy, speaker stand should be low mass such that energy storage is low and can be quickly dissipated to ground. Some foreign Harbeth users insisted wood stand because they argue metal stand may potentially sound ring. However, if you look at studio photo or old Spendor or Roger brochure, all stands are metal design. So I have reason to believe metal stand should be as fine.

Ok, back to real life experience. Since it is hard to get ‘low mass metal stand’ locally, my first attempt for my M40 was a solid wood stand. The stand is quite heavy (IMO too heavy) and stable. But after a year of usage, I found wood stand tends to sound warm (welcome) but a bit blur and slow, the bass may lack last bit of resolution and speed. That’s exactly people general impression towards British box: midrange only speaker.

So I start to check for replacement. I found a UK hand-made metal stand called Something Solid XF sounds quite well-received among Spendor and Harbeth users. And the price is reasonable too, although the look requires some time to accept. So I placed order (with minor cosmetic change from standard) and waited for two months for delivery.

Once installed the new stand, bass resolution and speed are back. I would say the mid sounds as warm as my old wood stand, just with more details. Dynamic is also improved. Overall I think it is a wise move.

I don’t think Harbeth users must order the same stand from UK. But I suggest when you shop for or custom make your stand, some key points worth to note:

-The height must be right, it should bring tweeter to your ear level.
-Top size should fit your speaker size for stability and sonic reason
-Metal stand usually sound more dynamic while wood stand sound soft.
-Big speaker can use light weight stand to improve bass speed while small speaker can use heavy stand to boost up bass energy.
-Speaker-to-stand and spike-to-floor interface are equally important. Never apply a single formula for all speaker, you have to try it yourself. (many people just use bluetak and linn sheet floor protect formula, both don’t work for my case)
M40
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170.xxx.xxx.104
2006-08-17 12:19
[#16] Harbeth同好會    
Thanks M40 for detail and open sharing
ken1967
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218.xxx.xxx.93
2006-08-17 12:24
[#17] Harbeth同好會    
Setting up the P3 is less difficult, according to Harbeth website, the minimum distance from the speaker to wall is only 0.3M. That fits perfectly with the small rooms in HK. My experience is 2 feet away from the wall is perfect but less than that only have very small difference. Also, since it is designed as a drop in replacement for LS3/5A, all speaker stands fits the LS3 can fit the P3. That's it is very suitable for beginners in Harbeth.
harbeth
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210.xxx.xxx.59
2006-08-17 12:33
[#18] Harbeth同好會    
Major drawback of Harbeth P3ES2 and Compact 7:

The SEAS tweeter, which at times, tend to draw attention to itself and not very detail, as compared with Spendor's ScanSpeak tweeters. The SEAS tweeter often present itself as ZZZZZZ!

sybaritej
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219.xxx.xxx.16
2006-08-17 14:23
[#19] Harbeth同好會    
What is the major difference in sound between Harbeth LS-3/5A and Harbeth P3 ??
shadowwho
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202.xxx.xxx.252
2006-08-17 14:44
[#20] Harbeth同好會    
Hi M40 Hing,

I find my M40 too powerful in midrange, And the image seem to fat, Can you recommend what speaker cable you think fit for M40? Or what's the problem in my setup?
frankie2612
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220.xxx.xxx.192
2006-08-18 14:08
[#21] Harbeth同好會    
hi all, i'm a hl5 user and have been using it for 2 weeks now. and i use p3es2 in my room. to me the strengh of harbeth is it portraits instruments fairly accurately, and for shl5 the low level (volume) detail is excellent (hence why ppl like playing it with classical music).
mahi
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218.xxx.xxx.128
2006-08-18 14:15
[#22] Harbeth同好會    
hi shadowwho,
I have both speakers at home and can share my experience with u.
P3 is designed to be a drop in replacement for LS3, it has the similar sound attributes, but P3 has a deeper cabinet size and thus have a more dynamic range and better response in low frequencies.
It is very difficult to say which is beter. To me, LS3 is unbeatable in female vocal and string instruments. However, P3 performs slightly better for general and classical musics especially jazz. As a result, I listens P3 most of the time. My LS3 is only use for my favorite cds and fine tuning for my new hi-fi equipments.
Will post more photos later.
harbeth
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210.xxx.xxx.59
2006-08-18 14:58
[#23] Harbeth同好會    
想請問Harbett喇叭比較配什麼amp才可以發揮它的音色長處呀?

因我曾試聽過用Naim前後級推動Compact7和SHL5,音色真的令人聽得很舒服,但是好似慢了一點點.
Mandie
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219.xxx.xxx.19
2006-08-19 17:22
[#24] Harbeth同好會    
U are rite Mandie, Harbeth has a very traditional UK sound. Depends on taste, the design is a bit 'slow' and warm in nature. I am now using MF A3.2 pre + power and very satified. Besides Naim, Harbeth website also suggest Sudgen amp.
harbeth
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58.xxx.xxx.9
2006-08-19 20:07
[#25] Harbeth同好會    
P3 VS LS3

harbeth
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58.xxx.xxx.9
2006-08-20 17:19
[#26] Harbeth同好會    
Without cover

harbeth
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58.xxx.xxx.9
2006-08-20 17:20
[#27] Harbeth同好會    
Left hand side, note that P3's cabinet had approximately 0.5 inch longer.

harbeth
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58.xxx.xxx.9
2006-08-20 17:22
[#28] Harbeth同好會    
Both is made in the UK and P3 is hand made

harbeth
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58.xxx.xxx.9
2006-08-20 17:24
[#29] Harbeth同好會    
我是因用第一代P3黑檀
聲音覺得比P3ES來得更好
更平衡
飛仔
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58.xxx.xxx.164
2006-08-20 18:24
[#30] Harbeth同好會    
Is Primare I20/I30 a good match with P3ES2 or C7?
jttlee
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220.xxx.xxx.105
2006-08-21 00:23
[#31] Harbeth同好會    
Dear all Harbeth 高手, 聽了一次SHL-5之後,深深被吸引,但考慮了好幾個月, 依然15/16....唔知SHL-5是否真的可贏我沿用的TAD300仔?????



bigbird
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218.xxx.xxx.156
2006-08-21 01:12
[#32] Harbeth同好會    
Can somebody tells what types of system u are using for harbeth speakers and how is the feelings of the set up?

Speaker model:??
AMP:??
CDP:??
Power cables:??
Interconnect:??
fungsui
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210.xxx.xxx.59
2006-08-22 12:33
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