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[#15] Harbeth同好會 Why don’t we share a bit our experience on setting up our Harbeth. Let’s start with the most important part in my opinion: speaker stand. If you believe in BBC philosophy, speaker stand should be low mass such that energy storage is low and can be quickly dissipated to ground. Some foreign Harbeth users insisted wood stand because they argue metal stand may potentially sound ring. However, if you look at studio photo or old Spendor or Roger brochure, all stands are metal design. So I have reason to believe metal stand should be as fine. Ok, back to real life experience. Since it is hard to get ‘low mass metal stand’ locally, my first attempt for my M40 was a solid wood stand. The stand is quite heavy (IMO too heavy) and stable. But after a year of usage, I found wood stand tends to sound warm (welcome) but a bit blur and slow, the bass may lack last bit of resolution and speed. That’s exactly people general impression towards British box: midrange only speaker. So I start to check for replacement. I found a UK hand-made metal stand called Something Solid XF sounds quite well-received among Spendor and Harbeth users. And the price is reasonable too, although the look requires some time to accept. So I placed order (with minor cosmetic change from standard) and waited for two months for delivery. Once installed the new stand, bass resolution and speed are back. I would say the mid sounds as warm as my old wood stand, just with more details. Dynamic is also improved. Overall I think it is a wise move. I don’t think Harbeth users must order the same stand from UK. But I suggest when you shop for or custom make your stand, some key points worth to note: -The height must be right, it should bring tweeter to your ear level. -Top size should fit your speaker size for stability and sonic reason -Metal stand usually sound more dynamic while wood stand sound soft. -Big speaker can use light weight stand to improve bass speed while small speaker can use heavy stand to boost up bass energy. -Speaker-to-stand and spike-to-floor interface are equally important. Never apply a single formula for all speaker, you have to try it yourself. (many people just use bluetak and linn sheet floor protect formula, both don’t work for my case) |
M40 正式會員 170.xxx.xxx.104 |
2006-08-17 12:19 | |
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[#16] Harbeth同好會 Thanks M40 for detail and open sharing |
ken1967 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.93 |
2006-08-17 12:24 |
[#17] Harbeth同好會 Setting up the P3 is less difficult, according to Harbeth website, the minimum distance from the speaker to wall is only 0.3M. That fits perfectly with the small rooms in HK. My experience is 2 feet away from the wall is perfect but less than that only have very small difference. Also, since it is designed as a drop in replacement for LS3/5A, all speaker stands fits the LS3 can fit the P3. That's it is very suitable for beginners in Harbeth. |
harbeth 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.59 |
2006-08-17 12:33 |
[#18] Harbeth同好會 Major drawback of Harbeth P3ES2 and Compact 7: The SEAS tweeter, which at times, tend to draw attention to itself and not very detail, as compared with Spendor's ScanSpeak tweeters. The SEAS tweeter often present itself as ZZZZZZ! |
sybaritej 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.16 |
2006-08-17 14:23 |
[#19] Harbeth同好會 What is the major difference in sound between Harbeth LS-3/5A and Harbeth P3 ?? |
shadowwho 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.252 |
2006-08-17 14:44 |
[#20] Harbeth同好會 Hi M40 Hing, I find my M40 too powerful in midrange, And the image seem to fat, Can you recommend what speaker cable you think fit for M40? Or what's the problem in my setup? |
frankie2612 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.192 |
2006-08-18 14:08 |
[#21] Harbeth同好會 hi all, i'm a hl5 user and have been using it for 2 weeks now. and i use p3es2 in my room. to me the strengh of harbeth is it portraits instruments fairly accurately, and for shl5 the low level (volume) detail is excellent (hence why ppl like playing it with classical music). |
mahi 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.128 |
2006-08-18 14:15 |
[#22] Harbeth同好會 hi shadowwho, I have both speakers at home and can share my experience with u. P3 is designed to be a drop in replacement for LS3, it has the similar sound attributes, but P3 has a deeper cabinet size and thus have a more dynamic range and better response in low frequencies. It is very difficult to say which is beter. To me, LS3 is unbeatable in female vocal and string instruments. However, P3 performs slightly better for general and classical musics especially jazz. As a result, I listens P3 most of the time. My LS3 is only use for my favorite cds and fine tuning for my new hi-fi equipments. Will post more photos later. |
harbeth 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.59 |
2006-08-18 14:58 |
[#23] Harbeth同好會 想請問Harbett喇叭比較配什麼amp才可以發揮它的音色長處呀? 因我曾試聽過用Naim前後級推動Compact7和SHL5,音色真的令人聽得很舒服,但是好似慢了一點點. |
Mandie 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.19 |
2006-08-19 17:22 |
[#24] Harbeth同好會 U are rite Mandie, Harbeth has a very traditional UK sound. Depends on taste, the design is a bit 'slow' and warm in nature. I am now using MF A3.2 pre + power and very satified. Besides Naim, Harbeth website also suggest Sudgen amp. |
harbeth 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.9 |
2006-08-19 20:07 |
[#25] Harbeth同好會 P3 VS LS3 |
harbeth 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.9 |
2006-08-20 17:19 |
[#26] Harbeth同好會 Without cover |
harbeth 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.9 |
2006-08-20 17:20 |
[#27] Harbeth同好會 Left hand side, note that P3's cabinet had approximately 0.5 inch longer. |
harbeth 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.9 |
2006-08-20 17:22 |
[#28] Harbeth同好會 Both is made in the UK and P3 is hand made |
harbeth 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.9 |
2006-08-20 17:24 |
[#29] Harbeth同好會 我是因用第一代P3黑檀 聲音覺得比P3ES來得更好 更平衡 |
飛仔 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.164 |
2006-08-20 18:24 |
[#30] Harbeth同好會 Is Primare I20/I30 a good match with P3ES2 or C7? |
jttlee 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.105 |
2006-08-21 00:23 |
[#31] Harbeth同好會 Dear all Harbeth 高手, 聽了一次SHL-5之後,深深被吸引,但考慮了好幾個月, 依然15/16....唔知SHL-5是否真的可贏我沿用的TAD300仔????? |
bigbird 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.156 |
2006-08-21 01:12 |
[#32] Harbeth同好會 Can somebody tells what types of system u are using for harbeth speakers and how is the feelings of the set up? Speaker model:?? AMP:?? CDP:?? Power cables:?? Interconnect:?? |
fungsui 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.59 |
2006-08-22 12:33 |
[#33] Harbeth同好會 Hi Bigbird, I hate to use the word ‘win/lose’ in hifi comparison cos 'win' or 'lose' depends on taste, environment and tuning skill. Back to your question, SHL5 should sound different from your existing speaker. To my taste, SHL5 can 'win' my vote |
M40 正式會員 170.xxx.xxx.104 |
2006-08-22 14:50 |
[#34] Harbeth同好會 this question being here in harbeth user thread surely most ppl will prefer it to the TAD. i have not heard the TAD but I vote for Harbeth still coz I am its die hard fans or at least I am british audio equiopment fans so anything not british, usually lose from my point of view. |
seanbeer 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.100 |
2006-08-22 16:49 |