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[#1] Bryston User Club    
Any Bryston users here? Share our experience? Anybody using the new SST C series?
ykchan
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2006-11-26 12:03
[#2] Bryston User Club    
I'm a Bryston user. I've used 4B ST and BP 25. I have 14B ST now. 14B ST and 7B ST have the same design that is adopted for the later SST series. The "C" of the C series means consumer. The name is given for easier identification.
mikelee
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2006-11-26 12:44
[#3] Bryston User Club    
I was also a past user of 4B ST, 4B SST, 14BST. I am interested in the new SST C series, what do you think are the differences in performance in ST, SST and SSTC series? Actually 14BST is a very good amp, I sold it because of my own mistake. To tell the truth, I was very satisfied with 4BSST - powerful but soft and musical.
ykchan
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2006-11-26 14:23
[#4] Bryston User Club    
I use 4B-ST (quite dated right?).
devilcoach
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2006-11-26 14:38
[#5] Bryston User Club    
I suggest you change it to 4B SST - you will keep it for at least 3 years!
ykchan
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2006-11-26 21:51
[#6] Bryston User Club    
I've never compared different Bryston amps with the same power but different series. But I found that the ST are really softer and more musical than the SST whilst the SST are faster, more transparent and neutral than the ST. In terms of specs, the SST (including the 7B ST and 14B ST) are definitely better than the ST.

Please note that the SST C are the same as the SST in performance.

14B ST is a great amp. It's very powerful that I believe it can drive nearly all the speakers in the market.

As Bryston claims, all the Bryston amps in the same series are the same except for power. If one likes Bryston sound, only power should be considered for picking the right amp for oneself.

Bryston is THE name rated highly both in the professional and consumer markets. If one needs more neutral sound with minimal noise and excellent damping factor, Bryston is one of the best choices. :)
mikelee
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2006-11-26 21:53
[#7] Bryston User Club    
I've kept my 4B-ST for 8 years and I expect my next amp will be kept by me the similar period.

Anyway, having used Bryston for that long, I want to try other brands.
devilcoach
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2006-11-26 21:54
[#8] Bryston User Club    
Does your 4B ST serve you well? If it does, why change? But if the change is primarily for the sake of change, it's another issue. Good luck and have fun! :)
mikelee
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2006-11-26 22:24
[#9] Bryston User Club    
>Does your 4B ST serve you well? If it does, why change? But if the change is primarily for the sake of change, it's another issue. Good luck and have fun! :)

I kept 4B ST for long because I was not quite fever in upgrading, in the past. I do not have much experience comparing it with other brands.

But for the sake of change, yes. Just wanted to widen my experience.
devilcoach
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2006-11-26 22:39
[#10] Bryston User Club    
Glad to know your intention to widen your experience! We look forward to your next adventure and findings after the change. :)
mikelee
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2006-11-26 22:46
[#11] Bryston User Club    
ykchan,

Instead of Bryston, what do you use now?
mikelee
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2006-11-26 23:52
[#12] Bryston User Club    
I have slightly different experience than MikeLee.

As (was) a user of both the 14B-ST and 14B-SST. I found the 14B-SST was a completely improvement over 14B-ST (say, not much, 10-15% overall). Sonically, they are pretty much the same, the notable improvement were more transparent (less milky on the top), the treble more extended and resolved, basses were faster & tigher & well defined. I would say, overall, the 14B-SST is more sensitive on matching gears, they can be too revealing for weak/cheap Hi-Fi gears (CDP, cables, pre-amp, loudspeakers). In the correct set-up, 14B-SST will sound smooth & resolved & musical with same level of Softwares. A budget.

Cheers.
Kler@HiFi
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2006-11-27 13:49
[#13] Bryston User Club    
Thanks for your sharing, Kler@HiFi. As a matter of fact, I don't have any 14B SST experience at all! So our experiences are quite different... :P

Although 14B ST has the SST design, it's different from 14B SST in terms of look and power. 14B SST is slightly more powerful than 14B ST. ( http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=16219.0 )Wondering if the output difference contributes to Kler@HiFi's experience.

Correction: 6B ST, NOT 7B ST as written by me here before, also has SST design.
mikelee
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2006-11-27 14:54
[#14] Bryston User Club    
Not really, as was an owner and a player, no need "audiocircle" (instead, I can find their improficiencies). The claimed power outputs for 14B-ST is 500W/8 Ohm, 14B-SST is 600W/8 Ohm. Actually, refer to both the factory tested data sheets (actual power, distortion, Signal Noise Ratio & .... shipped with each unit) - supposed you bought New unit than 2nd hand unit, they are identical, the 14B-ST put out more than 590 watts too, say 600W is O.K. (depends on line voltage). One of the main difference of 14B-SST, it use a more "silent" type of power transformers (two pcs) upon REAL users feedback (like us).

FYI, the Actual story of about SST series (straight from Bryston) - 14B-ST is the (say, whole new design) FIRST unit from new design apart from existing "ST" series (so, you can find it's interiors almost 99.9% the same as 14B-SST). However, managements discovered the new design has quite huge difference (including power transformers, parts quality, some circuits designs / boards) from "ST" series, words in-simple, past / existing products CANNOT BE UPGRADED. So, they decided to name a new series as "SST", then, let customers know it's a whole new line of products, all 2B, 3B, 4B.... 9B-ST cannot be upgrade ! That's all.

You can kept on believing Reviews on Web/Mags, no losts to me.

Cheers.
Kler@HiFi
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2006-11-27 15:43
[#15] Bryston User Club    
Kler@HiFi,

Thanks for your insight! But do you know who James Tanner is?
mikelee
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2006-11-27 15:52
[#16] Bryston User Club    
Mike, sounds like you felt being "triggered". Need such ?
Kler@HiFi
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2006-11-27 15:55
[#17] Bryston User Club    
Yes, triggered by you, Kler@HiFi. Happy? I'm afraid our Review33 readers don't need childish act... Anyway, you didn't answer my question or don't even know who James Tanner is.

For the readers who'd like to know who James Tanner is, he is the Vice-President and one of the owners of Bryston.

So far no pix in this forum, let me post one to show those vintage Bryston gear here :) :

mikelee
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2006-11-27 16:09
[#18] Bryston User Club    
Mike,

I re-read & re-read my post, I thought it's informative and gathered something that unheard from mass media. I really wasn't expect to see such a negative response from you.... !

Links FYI, should answer all your questions.
http://www.soundstagelive.com/factorytours/bryston

Good luck.
Kler@HiFi
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2006-11-27 16:18
[#19] Bryston User Club    
What are my questions? If I had such questions that the article can answer, they'd been answered long before your previous post here... Thanks for the link though. I believe it's interesting to Bryston fans and people who're interested in the company. :)
mikelee
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2006-11-27 16:25
[#20] Bryston User Club    
Well, the link provided the details of the formation of Bryston since 1962 to 2006/06, and with a groups of names from Founders/ Presidents / Vice Presidents / Chief designers & etc. of different generation - which you found very important - and questioning. I just want to be helpful.

I prepare sharing.

Cheers.
Kler@HiFi
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2006-11-27 17:10
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