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| [#1] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 想請教一下冇ching 分享下呢兩對喇叭音色的分別？ 之前大家都話Amati Futura 正過802D2。但如果同803D3比，大家又點睇呢？ 個廳170呎。呢兩個喇叭食唔食得落？之前好似話對802D2都嫌個廳細。 我用緊Conrad Johnson LP66S (膽機), 又推唔推得到佢地呢？ |
wax2172 正式會員123.xxx.xxx.29 |
2016-10-12 19:39 | |
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| [#2] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura http://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=90264 Worth reading |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-12 20:49 |
| [#3] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura From a different review After all the glowing comments and revieuws I made an appointment to listen to B&W 803D3. All efforts were made to take everything out of it with a full stack of McIntosh including the mighty MC601, in a spacious room. I was hoping for a positively surprise, but that didn't happen. Bass: missed punch and attack and also some precision, already a dealbreaker for me. Mids: dense and polished. Wanted that it had a more open presentation, details were to some degree more difficult to detect than it should at the price point of this speaker. Heights: Yes, where is the tweeter? Look at the frequency response of 802D3 (I think that 802D3 and 803D3 are broadly similar, especially in mids/heights) in the german magazine AUDIO of november. It looks if there is hardly any response above around 12000Hz! Compare this with eg. Magico S1, S3, S5. And this was obvious during the session. I found the heights reticent, soft, lifeless and boring. Staging was good, remains between the speakers though. Low volume listening: for most of the time I listen to my music softly without losing anything; around 2-5 on my ARC Ref 5SE out of 104 possible. Low-level listening with 803D3 did cause the collapse of the stage and dynamics. Best results were with (somewhat) higher volumes. Overall this speaker is more about macro-, than microdynamics. Is this all more about the room and/or the electronics used rather than the speakers? I don't know, is possible, just listen for yourself and conclude. Needless to say, B&W 803D3, in this setup/room did it not for me. YMMV as always. |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-12 20:55 |
| [#4] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 多謝Ching. 咁睇嚟我間房融唔落只Amati |
wax2172 正式會員 123.xxx.xxx.29 |
2016-10-12 22:32 |
| [#5] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura Ching, you room dimension? Any openings to dining room or kitchen or corridor? |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-13 00:01 |
| [#6] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 我都係170尺廳，但我想玩802D3, Ching請問用乜amp去推？ Amati 4ohm 喇叭都係比較要求大！ |
timy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.141 |
2016-10-13 01:39 |
| [#7] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 用緊Conrad Johnson LP66S (膽機) 門房正方形。13 x 13 尺。沒open space. 802D3 太貴啦，「燒」唔起。 |
wax2172 正式會員 123.xxx.xxx.29 |
2016-10-13 04:30 |
| [#8] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura Square room 大問題！ 看下面 http://forums.naimaudio.com/topic/the-dreaded-square-room 學好 room treatment 才想喇叭 可能Amati 好D 最後修改時間: 2016-10-13 13:45:22 |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-13 13:42 |
| [#9] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 再看這個 http://www.review33.com/avforum/forum_message.php?topic=22100714151943 |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-13 13:47 |
| [#10] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 170呎 804d3 夠晒剛剛好，聲低一樣，為乜要格硬放咁大對喇叭? |
bigcat3d 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.47 |
2016-10-13 14:21 |
| [#11] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 可否問下804D3賣幾錢呢? |
chakat1969 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.182 |
2016-10-13 16:18 |
| [#12] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 代理折咗$76500 |
bigcat3d 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.229 |
2016-10-13 16:30 |
| [#13] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura LP66S都似乎唔夠推好803D3 804D3 Amati Futura！805D3應該得！ |
timy 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.141 |
2016-10-13 20:07 |
| [#14] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 好多謝各位Ching 的寶貴意見。不過有d唔明： 1. 對於170尺廳，係咪呢兩對喇叭都太大，所以會有booming的情況？（所以Phil兄比左link處理booming問題） 2. 其實好多人都好似bigcat3d兄所講，唔使買咁大對。但點解又有好多人話「有大買大」，一定沒錯呢？可唔可以分享一下「有大買大」的心得？（Timy兄，點解你想要802D3？） 之前試過係個450呎的房聽Sonus Faber Olympica III. 空氣感同音色都好正。所以都有想過買對細少少的座地喇叭。不過想聽多d Ching 對 Q2 的意見。 3. 關於「SquareRoom」個link，其實我係睇得好明。我應該點treat我個正方形房？咩係話我個正方形廳其實只適合放小喇叭？ 4. 如果要膽機，要推803D3，804D3有d咩要求？有咩好後級推介？ 5. 我依家用緊805D2。不過d底音一般，連學友把聲都雞d，冇左磁性。所以形住喺小喇叭的通病，今次一定要對座地喇叭。不過依家唔知係咪正方型廳的原因呢？如果唔換喇叭，有冇得救？ 6. 因為聽開B&W 聲底，都想了解下佢同Sonus Faber 聲底的分別。希望有ching可以分享下。 |
wax2172 正式會員 123.xxx.xxx.29 |
2016-10-13 21:45 |
| [#15] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 我路過見咁高興有人話想買嘢都叫你買最貴最勁top model haha 大喇叭大地方，細喇叭細地方，坐地好處多個低音，就算開細細聲都有高中低音，書架如果細聲會冇晒層次，其實一般唔會經常開到好大聲聽歌，所以一定坐地較好就算細地方，例如804 vs 805 其實所占地方一樣，去showroom 哥哥仔會比較你知分别，聽過Olympica，3 配老麥6700，配佢cd 機加D150，個人覺得好蒙好厚，唔太喜歡，唔知老麥問題定喇叭問題 最後修改時間: 2016-10-13 22:23:02 |
Bigcat3d 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.229 |
2016-10-13 22:19 |
| [#16] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura Room treatment...... http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/room-setup-acoustic-treatment/ |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-14 01:48 |
| [#17] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 804 vs 805 其實所占地方一樣 --- 冇錯，但要考慮箱聲問題 如果甩唔到箱，坐地喇叭好易會woooo woooo聲。 最後修改時間: 2016-10-14 07:27:05 |
syuencb 會員 113.xxx.xxx.177 |
2016-10-14 07:24 |
| [#18] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura 環境好影响，這篇文章值得參考，有提正方型房 http://www.fsaudio.net/at/at_2.asp?newsid=93 最後修改時間: 2016-10-14 07:46:33 |
bigcat3d 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.73 |
2016-10-14 07:45 |
| [#19] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura Try this, very interesting http://noaudiophile.com/speakercalc/ Input your room and pay attention to the Cardas square room solution 最後修改時間: 2016-10-14 14:32:26 |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-14 14:31 |
| [#20] B&W 803D3 vs Sonus Faber Amati Futura More to learn http://www.laventure.net/tourist/speaker_placement.htm |
phil.ng 會員 14.xxx.xxx.134 |
2016-10-14 14:40 |
