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[#21] 電腦Vs music streamer    
電腦本身就唔係給你聽歌用!即使你買到Mac Pro都咁話!簡單D買部-件過audiophile 嘅network player或server 就已經可以!
PP777
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2020-03-03 18:25
[#22] 電腦Vs music streamer    
I also used to connect macbook to dac directly few years ago.

Then later added a network bridge (Allo Usbridge) as roon endpoint — sound is 2x improvement

I also use ifi iusb 3.0 before usb signal going into dac. 30% improvement

Later i added an audio grade switch for reclocking signal , fed by LPS ( not sure if sound improved)

Recently changed Allo Usbridge to Allo Usbridge signature — another 20% improvement

I find more high quality filters and reclocking along the signal path improves sound quality with more details and musicality+ less rough edge

May be Jitter is improved.

The experience is very different from conventional sources, when a simple path sounds better
barnabe
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2020-03-03 18:38
[#23] 電腦Vs music streamer    
Yes you may need to use a lot of stuffs finally for pc basis system and gettimg a lot of boxes, accessories etc..A one box solution may be much simpler to get good sounding.

最後修改時間: 2020-03-03 19:25:54
PP777
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2020-03-03 19:25
[#24] 電腦Vs music streamer    
Actually one needs to really listen himself to decide which route to go re CAS.
BenYC
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2020-03-03 19:39
[#25] 電腦Vs music streamer    
電腦要有一些常識技巧並非人人可以處理,streamer 買番來即插即用,
聽過一些基於linux streamer, 有幾萬,幾千,幾百,本質上就是一派linux聲底分別不大,平貴只是在分析力上差異,RPi類最差處理大堆頭全無細節一堆垃圾推出來就萛,幾千好一些,幾萬就...........
PC識得攪嘅我會推薦起碼處理大堆頭非常輕鬆樣樣有
tmcc2006
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2020-03-05 13:42
[#26] 電腦Vs music streamer    
#25
你所講的PC我估係指 X86 架構的CPU,如 Intel / AMD, 而RPi 我估你係指 ARM 架構的CPU, 如Rapsberry Pi
音訊的資訊量係其實好細。即使係PCM 192都係唔高。即使係4K影片的資訊量,一台 Pi 4 都已經可以解碼。重點係佢有硬解。
若你玩 UPSAMPLE / FILTER, 咁其實用PI 就會好吃力。因為果啲軟件多數無用到CPU的硬解指令集。但若果啲軟件能使用CPU的硬解指令,咁做呢啲 UPSAMPLE / FILTER 的動作,PI也可以輕易做到。

以上係電腦處理數據上的一些概念,至於聽感,電腦因為太多複雜的元件,即使PI這麼細少的電腦也很多噪聲。所以如何隔離電腦和 audio path 是最大的困難。Streamer ”買番來即插即用“便是幫大家解決這個問題的方法
beeos
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2020-03-05 14:14
[#27] 電腦Vs music streamer    
另一辦法是外置 USB 轉 spdif interface 再駁 dac. 這可保持用PC的靈活性也平宜多了因一般家庭已有電腦,也可駁上電視看 YouTube.
BenYC
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2020-03-05 18:24
[#28] 電腦Vs music streamer    
Hi, Brother,

I am using this connection : Notebook > IFI Defender > IFI Igalvanic > IFI i usb 3.0 > DAC

Do not know the function of Allo US bridge? Is it useful if I add the US Bridge among the devices I am using? If yes, where should I put?

Thanks.
0005
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2020-03-05 20:06
[#29] 電腦Vs music streamer    
I changed my mac mini to use LPS and it's quite simple to do. I later added iso regen which improve sounds quite a lot.

My setup is LPS->mac mini (internal SSD, no NAS)->iso regen -> DAC

shektau6
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2020-03-06 23:34
[#30] 電腦Vs music streamer    
Re #28
Allo usbridge is a network bridge
It takes data from your network via LAN cable then overt it into usb signal. U can also use similar devices to change it to Spdif signal.
Main problem with computer as source is a lot of jitter. The network bridge separate the signal chain from your computer

The lan signal can be either thru your modem via wifi or another lan line into your computer.

There are audio grade modem or switches ( good dedicated clocks) that makes the LAN line signal better before it goes into the network bridge.
barnabe
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2020-03-07 09:57
[#31] 電腦Vs music streamer    
I guess the dcs network bridge would be the best one for converting signal from Lan to usb
barnabe
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2020-03-07 10:06
[#32] 電腦Vs music streamer    
#30. Thank you, brother for the details of the Allo US Bridge. But I am not using NAS, just notebook, and I got ifi igalvanic and iusb3.0, do not know where to put this US Bridge. Maybe it is not necessary.

Thanks again.
0005
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2020-03-08 21:06
[#33] 電腦Vs music streamer    
Pls. click below linkage:

https://allo.com/sparky/usbridge-signature-player.html
ChanCT
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2020-03-08 21:29
[#34] 電腦Vs music streamer    
I'm using Volumio Primo. Like it's built-in coaxial digital output. Use it as music server and most of the time listening to Tidal. Power it with a linear power supply.

https://volumio.org/product/volumio-primo/

I re-clock SPDIF using Empirical Audio Synchro-mesh powered by my simple DIY battery pack
http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/synchro-mesh

Volumio UI needs improvement. Sound quality is good, especially after re-clock.
odysseyhk
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2020-03-09 23:39
[#35] 電腦Vs music streamer    
C-Hing mentioned Allo.

Actually, I ordered Allo Shanti power supply to power my Volumio Primo. Hope it help improve sound.

https://allo.com/sparky/shanti.html
odysseyhk
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2020-03-09 23:41
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