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[#1] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
現時兩聲道系統:

CD Player: Denon DCD-S10II
Pre-amp: Sound Explorer Tube Amp (local made)
Power Amp: Audiolab 8000P x 2 Bi-amp
Speaker: ProAc Studio 150

請問是否可以用 5-6 萬元買一套前、後級得到可觀既改善?

另外 AV 方面用緊 Marantz SR18,有冇可能換一部 AV Amp 而聽 CD 方面唔差過而家土炮膽前加Audiolab 8000P bi-amp?



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Eddie Wan
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[#2] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
又或者3-4萬既 Integrated Amp?
Eddie Wan
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2009-12-15 10:08
[#3] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
suggest spend on upgrade speakers and some room treatments. probably spend half of that $50,000 will do.

cpu8088
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2009-12-15 10:37
[#4] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
cpu8088,

Thanks. For my existing setup, what new speakers will you recommend? Say another model of ProAc.
Eddie Wan
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2009-12-15 10:59
[#5] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
i believe the best way is to upgrade the pre+power-amp combo.


請問是否可以用 5-6 萬元買一套前、後級得到可觀既改善?
.......是

另外 AV 方面用緊 Marantz SR18,有冇可能換一部 AV Amp 而聽 CD 方面唔差過而家土炮膽前加Audiolab 8000P bi-amp?
.......冇
AlexKY
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2009-12-15 11:28
[#6] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
AlexKY,

If I prefer simplicity to go for an integrated amp, any suggestion?
Eddie Wan
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2009-12-15 11:30
[#7] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
IMHO, the weakest part is the CDP. Try borrow a Revox or Meridian CDP and you'll save a lot of money and time. The next would be your preamp.

If you intend to go for int. amp. Revox B250, 251 or B286 will be best choice below 10K.

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com-buddy
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2009-12-15 13:09
[#8] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
"the weakest part is the CDP"
=============================

Oh my god, I am afraid I will start from some itchy thought and end up replacing the whole set of gears!
Eddie Wan
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2009-12-15 13:48
[#9] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
sell your gears + 50K
and setup a simply and good sound system

AMP : MF Tri Vista 300 Int amp
Speaker : Dynaudio 25th
CD : Meridian G08

If you could find it at 2nd hand market, total cost would be around 65K,,,,,

Modern good sound !!!

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2009-12-15 16:06
[#10] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
喇吧可最後換~因為你而家呢對唔係咁差遮
係cdp同amp比較差~你換完之後已經發覺同以前差好遠~到時再決定換唔換喇吧啦

如果要前後~幾萬蚊選擇唔太多~可參考有條tread講primare~有個師兄quote左價三萬三就有前後~再唔係用佢部int i30都一樣ok~二手常有出現既~淨低既錢夠你買cdp

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michael23
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2009-12-15 17:51
[#11] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
如果轉玩CAS + active speaker, 你個budget可以飛天啦, 諗諗佢~

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大肥怪
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2009-12-16 02:01
[#12] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
eddie

speakers have to be chosen according to your music taste and room size. if your room is over 150 sq ft get a pair of good 3 way and if under a pair of high grade 2 way will do.

also consider if your room is reflective with lots of glass and bare wall. perhaps u need to add carpet and curtain or drapes.

changing speakers will have more effects than changing electronics

cpu8088
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2009-12-16 06:02
[#13] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
"""changing speakers will have more effects than changing electronics """"

1000 % agree with cpu8088

Besides, 2nd hand Bryston pre+power (such as BP-DA25 + 4BSST) amp is a very good combo to try, good sound and low price (below 20K)



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[#14] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
cpu8088 hing,

Why over 150 sq ft use 3 ways and below 150 sq ft use 2 ways? should i consider woofer and cabinet size also?

thanks.
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2009-12-16 13:46
[#15] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
googoolonglong 兄:

你有sense,幾路分音和聆聽面積沒有直接關係,音箱呎吋和低音口徑才是重點。大於Tannoy西敏寺和JBL S-9500都係2 way設計。

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孟波
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[#16] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
thats a guide by no means it is a rule for domestic set up

some japanese like to use watt puppy 3 way in a 90 sq ft room. but then their walls are not concrete while actual boundaries are wider.

with some commercial cinema or disco speakers they are 2 ways and design for large venues.

jbl and tannoy 2 ways are by no means selling like hot cakes, be all end all great sound. to cater for full range 2 ways has its own limitation

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cpu8088
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[#17] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
即係點?你究竟想表達乜野?
孟波
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2009-12-16 21:26
[#18] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
學李天命先生的說法,以同情地理解cpu8088寫過既論點:

>>>speakers have to be chosen according to your music taste and room size. if your room is over 150 sq ft get a pair of good 3 way and if under a pair of high grade 2 way will do.>>>

意思好明顯係話選擇喇叭要跟自己音樂口味同房間呎吋,如果地方大過150方呎搵好既3路啦,細過150方呎高級2路得架啦。

對有人問點解用150sq ft界定3路定2路,然後佢又話>>thats a guide by no means it is a rule for domestic set up>>

即係呢個係指引而唔係規矩,如果cpu8088你想叫人照之前既150方呎界定選擇喇叭,但後面意思又好有彈性,模棱兩可喎,你係想叫人照做定唔使照呢?

這豈非廢話?



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[#19] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
身痕花錢唔緊要,最緊要還是錢花得其所。在末花錢前先停一停、唸一唸!究竟自己想要D吖嘢同想Upgrade去吖嘢聲,清楚後之後在Budget範圍內小心用自己耳朵去選擇適合自己的器材!

有時候發燒友身痕就好像肚子餓上酒樓,最好先要了解自己想吃甚麼才點菜。就好像有人不愛吃魚,有人喜歡吃香口的食物,有人怕吃辣,也有人喜愛清淡一點。唔講清楚就叫部長幫你點菜其實出事率頗高啊...!

由於每人口味也不同,作為朋友,我都會介紹自己認為是最好吃的東西給你。不過你最怕吃魚,我卻點了條蘇眉你嘆,我卻到了上菜時發現原來你不愛吃魚,到時我只能Say Sorry,不過你卻要唔想食都要硬食,最慘仲要找數...!

玩Hi-Fi最怕花咗錢仲要Down grade...!身痕還身痕,身痕都要唸清楚聽清楚才決定都末遲呀!



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[#20] 五萬元身痕升級計劃    
答番樓主問題, 個人認為你對ProAc系好野,遇到好機可再發揮其潛力,所以應把筆直集中於前後級上。

e.g. 用一半筆直買部audio research sp11, or audio note M3(2nd hand)
AlexKY
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2009-12-16 23:47
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