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[#1] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
我也是音響發燒友,以前經濟好景時,玩盡各類名牌音響器材及線材,金額超過二百萬,但最終還是走回返撲歸真的音響路途。



綜觀本人多年玩音響、不斷換器材、換線材的經驗,我發覺很多器材線材商家們都是要捉著發燒友的虛榮心理,而不斷又不斷的標奇立異、巧立名目的製造出各式各樣的器材及線材,而聲稱是為該廠最新的音響之尊、音響之最,致令中了音響毒的發燒友將辛苦賺來的多餘閒錢或甚至勒緊肚皮挨餓的發燒友不遺餘力且無止境的向他們的錢包供奉,但得出來的結果就祇是聲音被改變了,但是否靚聲了則閣下自理。



至於 Tara-Lab的線材,我也曾玩過不少型號,大部份型號都屬清爽聲一類,如果你不在意最新型號,找些二手線材較抵玩,而且二手線材被 run-in 過,較新線中性耐聽。



現在我買什麼器材線材,都不會盲目以價位去評定其質素,也不會理會它們是 6N、7N、8N,一切祇靠自已的喜好,吃得多魚翅鮑魚,再吃咸魚白菜也好好味,既然如此,何必浪費無謂金錢?現在線材的花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費。









bosewelove
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2010-02-09 11:15
[#2] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
同意與否?
bosewelove
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2010-02-09 11:57
[#3] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
現在你音響setup 如何呢
藍晶晶
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2010-02-09 11:59
[#4] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
Dear bosewelove,

I cannot agree more with your comment.

My system is only one-tenth of yours in terms of amount (i.e. only HK$200,000) but I still cannot get over the mental hurdle of paying HK$10,000 for a power cable, for example.

It appears some (but not all) of the so-called high end cables are simply sound tuners. It will change the sound but not the fundamental quality of the original sound.

Once again, thanks for starting up this thread and it truly represents what is in my mind. Personally, I have come across a lot of "King's New Cloth" over the years. I hope that you and I are not the only ones who are "simple" enough to tell the naked truth about the King.
higo
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2010-02-09 12:02
[#5] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
agree....
所以我堅持盡量用原裝跟機線....
外國forum曾經都搞過好多貴線vs雞線 AB blind test....結果都係難以分辨到 (or分別好細)
sherman1215
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2010-02-09 12:14
[#6] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
本人覺得任何一種銷費品(相機、音晌、汽車、紅酒......如是),都有同一共同點,其實鎖費者本身都是一個shopaholic,當他需要鎖費時,當一有藉囗時,就不顧一切都要買些東西回家(那管是什麼東西),本人正是這類!



最後修改時間: 2010-02-09 12:16:08
chamcham
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2010-02-09 12:15
[#7] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    

Paying lots of money in cables and wires have the lowest CP ratio in playing hi fi.

I will rather spend on equipment or software.
jimmyihv
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2010-02-09 12:29
[#8] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
其實別人地俾得起,又與我何干?不能將一個標准強加係別人身上。的人喜歡插條 Ruby Hill 係 Kenwood 機處,他喜歡,開心,咁又點?
accphoto
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2010-02-09 12:43
[#9] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
different not equal to better

at least there are some that wake up

in a commercial world other people are trying hard to get their hands into your pocket and think up lots of pseudo schemes and products. it is all about marketing.

people tend to forget electronics are just a tool to bring out the contents thru software media. eg. you hear a talk show thru a portable radio and you heard someone's misfortune and you have a feel for it. will u feel more if you use a marantz 10b? same with music to bring out emotions. if you are constantly changing equipment it means u have not achieved what you prefer. u become a sound engineer trying to use equipment to approach live performance. might as well save some money on equipment and go to live concerts.


cpu8088
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2010-02-09 12:47
[#10] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
"""不能將一個標准強加係別人身上"""

this is by no means imposing a standard on someone.

here just some voicing their opinion, not standard at all.
cpu8088
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2010-02-09 12:50
[#11] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
....返撲歸真
This is the key point..
If you only stay in 撲 for 20 years and had experience nothing, you only got the 真!
You said anything that noone will hear you/buy you..
That is the way of Hifi, that is the way of we HK people..
You can never play lofi and talk about HiFi..
that is all...
ONLY after you have tried all that, you , yes, can 返撲歸真
T72BM
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2010-02-09 12:58
[#12] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
只要器材能清楚表達無次換線, 換釘或換位置後的点点分別, 那付多少錢都值得(當然要在能力之內). 反之一萬的線和三千的都差不多, 那花三千都是浪費因為按推理三千和三百也不會有天與地的別, 如此類推還是原裝線才合理!

anthlai
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2010-02-09 13:14
[#13] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
玩HIFI好比烹飪,HIFI器材,線材就係原料,自已就係廚師,你功夫好就平價貨色都煮得好食,功夫唔好比哂D一級食材你煮都冇用啦,唔一定買得起貴食才就一定好食,俾你煲千年陳皮紅豆沙,你落錯鹽咪唔好食囉...
阿鐵
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2010-02-09 13:17
[#14] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
咁好難講,我又真係聽個條萬萬聲的電源線,係套 "properly setup system" 入面,影響幾大。到最後,值唔值得真係好睇個人。有的人只追求完美,有的人講 CP, 是否多餘浪費,不能一慨而論。
accphoto
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2010-02-09 13:30
[#15] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
功夫好 in your sense only represent trial and error. there is no scientific base to rely on unless you have made measurements and verify those claims from cable manufacturers.

tell me any reviewers actually verify the xxx n of cables?
cpu8088
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2010-02-09 13:57
[#16] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
要答你的問題必須如你般試盡各類器材線材,睇嚟都無乜邊位夠 "哥利" 認同你呢~~~~~~ 一笑
belle
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2010-02-09 14:05
[#17] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
玩音響最緊要睇有幾多預算及閒錢﹐有錢玩就花得起﹐無錢玩就抵你死。
ambience
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2010-02-09 14:40
[#18] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
有錢玩就花得起

yea all money goes to retailers and manufacturers.

they may be selling a dream. who knows !!!
cpu8088
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2010-02-09 14:45
[#19] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
>>>外國forum曾經都搞過好多貴線vs雞線 AB blind test....結果都係難以分辨到 (or分別好細)

sherman1215 hing, any more information? i'm interested to know more about it before i buy expensive cables, thx

chamcham hing, shopaholic means excuse of shopping?
culsay
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2010-02-09 15:28
[#20] 花費對我來說 3,000 元之內才是合理,超過這價位的線材,實在多餘兼浪費..    
3k內pc呢幾年可以既都試盡,最終用回原裝線.....
kenny104
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2010-02-09 15:32
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