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[#29] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
話雖 彈下 3/5 仔的分音

但3/5仔可做出的離箱感,定位準確度,確是一絕。我玩過~20款喇叭,還未有一對比得上3/5仔
可能是拜謝佢密封式的設計
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Summilux 兄,

除了 LS3/5A 的單元, 分音等設外, 另一原是它 "細"
- 較接近 "point source" 嗎! :)
rcwy
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2018-06-05 10:20
[#28] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
#11

班門弄斧, 只是傳聞, 有錯請糾正

I heard a slightly different story.

BBC offered Rogers the LS3/5 licence in Feb 1974. Rogers produced the first and last batch of 20 units of LS3/5 in 1974 with newer KEF driver units. BBC needed a batch of LS3/5 for in-house use and therefore got the whole (or part) of the first batch from Rogers. Unfortunately BBC found the performance of Rogers LS3/5 was impaired by not using the original KEF driver units. Due to the fact that original KEF driver units were not available anymore, Rogers had to halt production for 1 year until BBC redesigned LS3/5 to fit the new KEF drivers – LS3/5a in 1975.

Design of LS3/5 is good, however, all of the 20 units of Rogers LS3/5 might need to be avoided.
ordinaryman
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2018-06-04 10:04
[#27] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
http://www.g4dcv.co.uk/ls35a/graphtimeline.htm

http://www.g4dcv.co.uk/ls35a/manufacturers.html
cornercube
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2018-06-04 05:29
[#26] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
http://uk.kef.com/explore-kef/about-kef/kef-bbc-and-ls35a
timtube
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2018-06-04 01:32
[#25] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
Yes, I thought that you are Mr. Chow, may be I made a mistake, thomasc2 hing, thanks
254mm
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2018-06-04 00:07
[#24] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
""'then, what is the reason behind?, thanks Chow Sir"""

To me or a Mr. Chow?
thomasc2
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2018-06-03 23:46
[#23] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
then, what is the reason behind?, thanks Chow Sir
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[#22] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
“”“It was for the same reason why earlier tubes of the same model from the same manufacturer always sound better than later production.“”“”

I would agree only if those "earlier tubes" refer to tubes produced at their golden ages, at which time, due to large demand and competition, vast investments in terms of new machinery, materials, technology and manpower were continuously made. Since then, upon defeated by transistors, production of tubes around the world had basically come to a halt. Remaining productions were limited to small scale, by old machine and probable unskilled/inexperienced workers. No further meaningful new investment could be expected in the maintenance of the machinery, testing of new materials or invention of new technology. So, we can comfortably believe quality of the tubes produced in the golden ages should be the best in the tube history.

Loudspeaker is a completely different story. The B110/T27A (or whatever) were produced some 50 (or 60 years?) ago, at which time, the concept of hifi was just only budding . Since then, speaker design and production technology in every aspect, have advanced for thousands of miles, and are still advancing.

In respect of the cessation of the 3/5A driver units by KEF, I had actually also raised the same question on a popular foreign loudspeaker forum very many years ago. The answer I got was simple, more persuasive, but different from yours.

最後修改時間: 2018-06-03 23:31:55
thomasc2
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2018-06-03 23:25
[#21] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
And just to be clear, the 9 ohm LS3/5 cross-over is known as "FL6/16".

Falcon Acoustics used to make and sell this cross-over (not sure for whom?) but not any more.
timtube
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2018-06-03 12:16
[#20] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
If so, why KEF would have decided to terminate the production of
B110/A6362 (and eventually the B110/SP1003 as well).
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KEF couldn't care less what BBC wanted. It was only interested to reduce production cost and its own speakers were already designed for the later KEF driver model.

It was for the same reason why earlier tubes of the same model from the same manufacturer always sound better than later production.
timtube
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2018-06-03 12:11
[#19] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
"""ls3/5 分音器線路圖"""

這是...16Ohm的嗎?



"""...it was so successful that BBC wants to have it mass produced by commercial manufacturers such as Roger..."""

If so, why KEF would have decided to terminate the production of
B110/A6362 (and eventually the B110/SP1003 as well).
thomasc2
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2018-06-03 12:05
[#18] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
話雖 彈下 3/5 仔的分音

但3/5仔可做出的離箱感,定位準確度,確是一絕。我玩過~20款喇叭,還未有一對比得上3/5仔
可能是拜謝佢密封式的設計
Summilux
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2018-05-31 11:53
[#17] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
個人在80年代初開始玩3/5a(前后玩過3對),再用電分加超低音,到90代迷上號角全頻,根本沒有興趣聽分頻器喇叭
我算是中了全頻毒,想回頭聽有分音器喇叭,實在有一些困難。
ktli
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2018-05-31 11:37
[#16] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
Goodmans 80, 幾十年前聽過, 真是一聽難忘
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[#15] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
金麟豈是池中物,
一遇風雲便化龍,
九霄龍吟驚天變,
風雲際會淺水游。
成也風雲,敗也風雲。
毋用強求,一切隨緣。

成和敗,都喺分音器所為

這幾年聽 Goodmans 80 和 西電 755A 之類的全音喇叭,無分音器的音染。快捷,真實,明朗。

用得分音器,註定要享受分音器的音染。好比食醬油雞, 不是說醬油雞不好味...而是缺少了原汁原味的雞味。後續再講究用哪牌子的醬油去煮,是後話了。
Summilux
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2018-05-31 09:05
[#14] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
No, it is as rare as Kingswood Warren LS3/5A i.e. LS3/5A made by BBC itself.
timtube
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2018-05-30 23:18
[#13] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
請問LS 3/5 有在巿場流通的嗎?
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2018-05-30 22:41
[#12] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
Wow!
雪耳
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[#11] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
Contrary to what some believed, the LS3/5 was not just a prototype. It was put into operational use and formally documented by BBC:
www.bbceng.info/EDI%20Sheets/10055_1.pdf

In fact, it was so successful that BBC wants to have it mass produced by commercial manufacturers such as Rogers. And Rogers was first invited to make the LS3/5 and not LS3/5A.

When KEF stopped production of B110/A6362, Rogers got stuck and has to ask BBC to modify the spec to use B110/SP1003 instead, which became LS3/5A.
timtube
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[#10] ls3/5 分音器線路圖    
Soli Soli... 無事放了一個屁
Summilux
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