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[#21] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
Never think Cardas is sweet. Only a boost in mids but at the expense of higher frequency extension, dynamics, texture and bass reproduction.

A trash cable targeting the inexperienced audiophiles only!
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Very entertaining comment from a guy that uses siltech, which is equally horrible if not worse.


WChurchill
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2008-05-16 02:36
[#22] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
但Cardas 有(Golden Ratio) 蘆髐騍v喎!炒股可能得喎.
inwood
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2008-05-16 02:36
[#23] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
但Cardas 有(Golden Ratio)黃金比率喎!炒股可能得喎.
inwood
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2008-05-16 02:44
[#24] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
Sigh : I never found Golden Reference has an expressive mid's. I think it is a balanced full frequency cable that makes me feel there is no cable. The speaker cables are especially good -- effortless presentation without stress.

Anyway...
Kenny
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2008-05-16 05:51
[#25] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
I had an experience used cardas GR PC for my PS audio PPP. I don't believe it's good, even worst than PPP default PC alot and alot.

How to define well train ear. If buy alot expansive equipment to listen for long time and feel comfortable means who got golden ear than I doubt it. I think need to listen more live concert to compare the home system. if I am wrong correct me please.
monami
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2008-05-16 11:44
[#26] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"""Human ears (and brains indeed), although limited to 20 to 20KHz, can tell a lot other than frequency extension."""

what are the "lot" you referring to???

besides i dont think excel has shop in the country where i normally reside, and i have no immediate plan to go to hk or china


cpu8088
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2008-05-16 12:49
[#27] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"""I had an experience used cardas GR PC for my PS audio PPP. I don't believe it's good, even worst than PPP default PC alot and alot."""

a good cable can bring out deficiencies in electronics and speakers
cpu8088
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2008-05-16 12:50
[#28] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"""Ur personal experience in gears is next to zero"""

thats only your wrong perception.

why would someone want my experience. your experience is a name you use to call your "past mistakes" lol

cpu8088
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2008-05-16 12:54
[#29] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"""May be the Burmester does sound dry."""

wow a very bold imagination.

wont you go out and buy a burmester and have an audition before you make a judgment?

who is talking about zero personal experience here???

cpu8088
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2008-05-16 12:59
[#30] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"""If most of us agree that a good cable should add nothing to the music (and surely should try to transmit as much information), then why Cardas can add "wet" sound to the music. """"

wet sound? you can always dip the cable into water to get wet. what actually you are describing as "wet"?



"""Clearly that is due to some distortion that Cardas provides, or indeed filters OFF!!! Human ears can easily be misled."""

clearly you dont know anything. cardas cable does not distort or filter off anything. just a cable with no network. human ears cannot mislead. it is your brain perceive and imagine.

""" More mids and less highs (or tricky roll offs) are often be regarded as SMOOTH, WET and engaging sound!"""

more mids will render a singer stands in front of the band not within the band or behind it. it has nothing to do with your so called smooth, wet or engaging sound.
cpu8088
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2008-05-16 13:26
[#31] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
Only a fool will say that "a good cable can bring out deficiencies in electronics and speakers:.

I strongly think that the stupid resides in Vancouver. U are as stupid as Canadians, living in a country which has nothing but natural resources and think BIG. AR Q again!

No more time to play around with Hi Fi ArQ lar!
IBMR51
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2008-05-16 14:27
[#32] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"a good cable can bring out deficiencies in electronics and speakers" How about Cardas, which add sugar and "sweet" and wet to the system? A good cable?
IBMR51
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2008-05-16 14:50
[#33] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
agree,cardas cable is "sell the rock in the box" poduct,the golden ratio
http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insights&content_id=5&pagestring=Why+Cardas?apply to the audio cable is ridiculous i bought the golden reference few month ago, is not a good cable. i sold it already.
inwood
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2008-05-16 23:37
[#34] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insights&content_id=5&pagestring=Why+Cardas?
inwood
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2008-05-16 23:38
[#35] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
can anyone explain what is sweet, sugar and wet sound characteristics in more specific terms?

i am scratching my head trying to understand chinglish here

cpu8088
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2008-05-17 00:38
[#36] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
"""is not a good cable. i sold it already."""

you sold it. so it was no good. most probably it brought out the deficiencies of your electronics and speakers



cpu8088
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2008-05-17 00:39
[#37] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
My dear Hi Fi Ar Q,

Could you reproduce some concrete research with proven data on how the Golden Rule improve sound quality in Cardas cable? Or how other cables suck without the Golden Rule?
IBMR51
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2008-05-17 00:48
[#38] Cardas Golden Ref. 係咪最甜的銅線?    
Just to point out one thing. Even different brand of Violin and Piano. They can reproduce different sound as they have different design and make as well as even the Stradivari. It is the same like cable, differnt cable has different sound orient.
Vivid
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2008-05-17 02:08
[#39] cpu8088    
"it brought out the deficiencies of your electronics and speakers" most probably u bought a cardas cable with high expectation.


inwood
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2008-05-17 03:10
[#40] cpu8088    
"""Could you reproduce some concrete research with proven data on how the Golden Rule improve sound quality in Cardas cable? """

if you say please then i will think about it.

"""Or how other cables suck without the Golden Rule?"""

what makes you think i consider "other" cables suck??? there are lots of good cables around even diy.



cpu8088
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2008-05-17 08:32
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