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[#1] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
對於極度頑固的污垢;普通既自己手冼碟方法唔係咁work,(即消毒火酒溝水)
有冇C hing 用藍威寶溝水去冼頑固的污垢而又唔damage黑膠?
希望可以話比小弟知既其中方法如果work又唔damage黑膠.Thanks


dlld
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2009-01-29 18:33
[#2] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
極頑固的污漬,倒不如羅去被人洗,唔使咁煩,所和都係面對現實,玩CD已經足夠,個人並唔覺得家陣CD的質素同黑膠唱片差好多,只係過唔過到心理關口,依然某些地方黑膠唱片始終要比CD佔有優勢,但個人覺得無需要太執著這方面
255159255
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116.xxx.xxx.214
2009-01-29 18:51
[#3] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
極頑固的污漬,倒不如羅去被人洗,唔使咁煩,所以我都係面對現實,玩CD已經足夠,個人並唔覺得家陣CD的質素同黑膠唱片差好多,只係過唔過到心理關口,依然某些地方黑膠唱片始終要比CD佔有優勢,但個人覺得無需要太執著這方面
255159255
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2009-01-29 18:54
[#4] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
clean LP no need clean, 炒豆聲LP clean after still 炒豆聲. get another copy and see if you have luck.

seanbeer
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116.xxx.xxx.23
2009-01-29 22:51
[#5] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
紅威寶效果好
tkc
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218.xxx.xxx.198
2009-01-29 22:54
[#6] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
炒豆聲的確很困擾。這台超級洗碟應該Work,但貴得很!

童虎
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119.xxx.xxx.16
2009-01-29 23:31
[#7] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
Thank C-hing opinion,
I think need the most powerful cleaing fluid to dissolve the 頑固的污垢, would try 紅威寶 and 消毒火酒 , after that, still have 炒豆聲, would try to find another one Lp
dlld
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2009-01-29 23:40
[#8] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
Anything else ?

Thanks !
dlld
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2009-01-29 23:50
[#9] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
do you try 濕唱 with cheap cart??

if you don't mind loose of high frequency, soak the groove in diluted 藍威寶 than sonicator for 30 sec.
hercules
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2009-01-30 00:18
[#10] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
"個人並唔覺得家陣CD的質素同黑膠唱片差好多,只係過唔過到心理關口,依然某些地方黑膠唱片始終要比CD佔有優勢,但個人覺得無需要太執著這方面"

really?!!!

得出以上結論的原因只有2個:
其一是器材未夠班
其二是耳朵未夠班
id9527
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2009-01-30 01:34
[#11] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
結論的原因只有是器材未夠班~
沙田超人
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2009-01-30 01:45
[#12] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
結論的原因只有是器材未夠班呢個機會相當大,我聽過有D HIFI友話奀q來未聽過黑膠背景會靜如深海,而且必定有塵聲及炒豆聲咁話.
wings8899
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2009-01-30 04:20
[#13] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
According to Vinylengine we should never:

1.try 濕唱(Don't know why?)
2.消毒火酒溝水 as it will damage the vinyl consistency
3. Or even clean it at all1(???) as they claim every time you play the record you are cleaning it anyway.

I would agree the first two but not sure about the third. Personally I would prefer wet clean with vacuum sucking. Most washing liquid produced by renown analogue hardware specialists(Like VPI, LAST etc)should be adequate. Which one is the best will be individual preference. I myself would use the hospital water based skin decontaminate hydrex as they are free for me. I mixed them with soap and sterile water(free again) and it seems working very well for me.
Naim-Man
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2009-01-30 07:20
[#14] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
Thanks every C-hing opinion

I belive 黑膠背景會靜如深海, if the vinyl lp is in good and clean condition even though it was not a new one.

For convinent , CD is much easier and mre conveninen, but if you always have leisure and free time properly set up and take care of it, the muscial is so fantastic and make me enjoyable.
dlld
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2009-01-30 08:22
[#15] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
my trick...漒水... result is excellent.. only if perform properly...

However, it is very dangerous..
Can easy hurt your LP and yourself if not perform properly...

Thus, not recommended...

濕唱 and alcohol is not good...?
濕唱 deamge LP...? Why..?
Acording to my limited chemistry, alcohol have no chmeical reaction with plastic... so why not good..?
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 10:15
[#16] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
濕唱 indeed reduce static, lubricating and cooling by reduce the friction between groove and stylus, and let the stylus as cleaner to collect the dust, but at the same time, you may dissolving the glue between the diamond style and cantilever, and corroding the metal of cantilever, and the wetting surface also collection the dust.

http://www.vinylparadise.com/LPCollec/LPClean/LPclean1.htm

So it's only perform with cheap cartridge and despairing LP before discard, not a way for your everyday playing.

And I dunno how serious the 炒豆聲, if you getting $10 LP from duck street, don't expect a very quiet LP, even some of them have groove damage that never restored. Some tolerance to 炒豆聲 is a must for vinyl player, if you find intolerable and no music enjoyable at all, you should replace it.
hercules
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2009-01-30 11:02
[#17] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
yes... I also guess 濕唱 is bad to cartridge... although I didn't experience the adverse effect to cartridge yet....

So there is no harmful to LPs...right..?

To me, serious 炒豆聲 only comes from those LPs of 50's and early 60's...

General cleaning is enough for LPs after 70's...
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 11:11
[#18] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
濕唱 can be a good way to decrease serious 炒豆聲 if you have vacuum LP cleaner to suck off the cleanning fuid after wet playing.
otherwise, the 炒豆聲 may be more serious if you cannot dry up lp after wet playing as hercules hing mentioned. sure better to have a nude diamond tip cartridge is the better way.
tckl
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2009-01-30 11:14
[#19] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
oh thanks tckl hing...

It's lucky that I have just newly bought a vacuum LP cleaner....

but I hate its size......
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 11:26
[#20] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
for people still using hand cleaning, try 紅威寶 and wipe with microfiber cloth ($15 each from HMV, popular, toray brand), as microfibre having hair much finer than the groove, but I never try it, as I don't have such dirty LP.

Let try with canto-pop LP, it's cheap and not hard to get!

http://www.sleevetown.com/vinyl-cleaning.shtml#cloth
hercules
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2009-01-30 11:46
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