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[#34] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
[#27] 炒豆聲的困擾!
i like LP and also like 炒豆聲.
NO 炒豆聲 NO LIFE!

自己道行吾夠…以前就係頂吾順/攪吾掂啲炒豆聲、刮坑紋聲…聽啲舒情浪漫情歌時,突然失驚無神卜幾聲…乜浪漫氣氛都差曬!交響曲慢靜樂章…失驚無神又卜一聲(尤其開大音量…更難頂),打个比喻,一隊交響音團現埸演奏浪漫樂章時(背境好靜),臺下有个人突然咳幾聲(無心的)當然您可話夠LIVE...,甘不如吾好將手机set去靜音…相信就更LIVE...,反而刮坑紋聲還好…尚有規律可預。


講LIFE...感受好是福!我自己就無福消受。

無公平及刻意作比較,但聽CD已滿足矣❤。

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2019-06-22 10:13
[#32] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
回覆id9527:
得出以上結論的原因只有2個:
其一是器材未夠班
其二是耳朵未夠班
回應:
哈哈哈!小弟的確係木耳一對,家中的器材有如微型組合,邊到夠大大的金耳朵同超級組合相提並論!!!!!
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2009-01-31 00:47
[#31] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
I just back to home,
and appreciate every brother suggestion,. ^.^ ,

Anyway, Happy New Year
dlld
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2009-01-30 23:19
[#30] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
dlld,

Pls check pm!
童虎
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2009-01-30 22:32
[#29] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
actually in most case, the surface would look dull ,lose shiny if the LP is worn by cartridge.
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 22:17
[#28] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
如果你已經試過洗, 然後由頭播到尾都係炒豆, 好大可能係隻碟之前已經洗壞左仲唱壞埋, 基本上你用乜野方法洗都照樣炒豆~~

馬雅人
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2009-01-30 16:21
[#27] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
i like LP and also like 炒豆聲.
NO 炒豆聲 NO LIFE!!
max360
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2009-01-30 15:22
[#26] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
dlld:

I mean experiment on canto-pop LP from Duck Street that easily get one at $10
hercules
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2009-01-30 14:39
[#25] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
dlld c-hing,

if you can see many fine scratch, it will be the reason of bi le bark la sound... but not dirt..

You can have a test...
turn off your turntable. place the cartridge on your problem LP, turn it manually and see if the 'pop' sounds are consistent with the fine scratch location.

if you find very few fine scratch but still serious 炒豆聲.... and also bad quality high frequency.. then it is 頑固污垢....

The only solution is dangerous 漒水....
I have tried many many other methods... but none can work..
Finally I carry out experiment of 漒水 and suprised with the marvelous result....
However, I have damaged some LPs and my hands and legs during the experiment...

Then I know, road to HiFi need to pay.....
>.<
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 14:30
[#24] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
wrong typing, should be

Most of my LP collection is in good sound even though its have fine scratch, but some have serious bi le bark la sound with fine scratch, So I guess RELATE to the inner groove have a extremaly 頑固的污垢..
dlld
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2009-01-30 13:36
[#23] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
hiphopzz c-hing

Most of my LP collection is in good sound even though its have fine scratch, but some have serious bi le bark la sound with fine scratch, So I guess not reatled to the inner groove have a extremaly 頑固的污垢
dlld
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2009-01-30 13:35
[#22] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
dlld c-hing,

choice C is for testing of a & b...

bty, is there many fine scratch in your LP..?
For fine scratch, you can increase the cartridge pressure...
The trade-off is too much pressure can wear your LP...
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 12:49
[#21] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
To hercules, hiphopzz, tckl & hiphozz

Really thanks for your suggestion,

There are different methond can remove or dig out the 極度頑固的污垢,
a) is 濕唱 come with the cheap cheap cartridge as a dust cleanner wi
b) 紅威寶 and wipe with microfiber cloth ,
c) canto-pop LP

Thanks a lot
dlld
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2009-01-30 12:35
[#20] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
for people still using hand cleaning, try 紅威寶 and wipe with microfiber cloth ($15 each from HMV, popular, toray brand), as microfibre having hair much finer than the groove, but I never try it, as I don't have such dirty LP.

Let try with canto-pop LP, it's cheap and not hard to get!

http://www.sleevetown.com/vinyl-cleaning.shtml#cloth
hercules
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2009-01-30 11:46
[#19] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
oh thanks tckl hing...

It's lucky that I have just newly bought a vacuum LP cleaner....

but I hate its size......
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 11:26
[#18] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
濕唱 can be a good way to decrease serious 炒豆聲 if you have vacuum LP cleaner to suck off the cleanning fuid after wet playing.
otherwise, the 炒豆聲 may be more serious if you cannot dry up lp after wet playing as hercules hing mentioned. sure better to have a nude diamond tip cartridge is the better way.
tckl
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2009-01-30 11:14
[#17] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
yes... I also guess 濕唱 is bad to cartridge... although I didn't experience the adverse effect to cartridge yet....

So there is no harmful to LPs...right..?

To me, serious 炒豆聲 only comes from those LPs of 50's and early 60's...

General cleaning is enough for LPs after 70's...
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 11:11
[#16] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
濕唱 indeed reduce static, lubricating and cooling by reduce the friction between groove and stylus, and let the stylus as cleaner to collect the dust, but at the same time, you may dissolving the glue between the diamond style and cantilever, and corroding the metal of cantilever, and the wetting surface also collection the dust.

http://www.vinylparadise.com/LPCollec/LPClean/LPclean1.htm

So it's only perform with cheap cartridge and despairing LP before discard, not a way for your everyday playing.

And I dunno how serious the 炒豆聲, if you getting $10 LP from duck street, don't expect a very quiet LP, even some of them have groove damage that never restored. Some tolerance to 炒豆聲 is a must for vinyl player, if you find intolerable and no music enjoyable at all, you should replace it.
hercules
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2009-01-30 11:02
[#15] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
my trick...漒水... result is excellent.. only if perform properly...

However, it is very dangerous..
Can easy hurt your LP and yourself if not perform properly...

Thus, not recommended...

濕唱 and alcohol is not good...?
濕唱 deamge LP...? Why..?
Acording to my limited chemistry, alcohol have no chmeical reaction with plastic... so why not good..?
hiphopzz
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2009-01-30 10:15
[#14] 炒豆聲的困擾!    
Thanks every C-hing opinion

I belive 黑膠背景會靜如深海, if the vinyl lp is in good and clean condition even though it was not a new one.

For convinent , CD is much easier and mre conveninen, but if you always have leisure and free time properly set up and take care of it, the muscial is so fantastic and make me enjoyable.
dlld
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