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[#1] 新手求教    
各位師兄大家好!

小弟係入門玩家,而家系統係

擴音機 marantz 8003
喇叭 energy RC10
訊源 tidal from avr

我想細細聲聽音樂,但係每次都要開得比較大聲,樂器聲音先至比較清楚

小弟主要聽串流 流行音樂,請問如果想改善這個問題,應該升級以下哪一方面效果比較明顯:

1)推力較大的擴音機
如 marantz model 30

2)揚聲器
如 wharfedale diamond 12.2

3) 數碼訊源
如 ifi neo stream

或者師兄你們如果有其他建議歡迎提供,謝謝!



BBQ83
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2022-11-25 19:23
[#2] 新手求教    
first...


get a good CD disc ,. which known to be a very good and dynamic recording

if u feel good = your amp..etc..speaker..etc in generally..ok
also means = u need some effort to handle those Compressed or not so good streaming music, or streaming related equipment need some touch ...


if good CD recording still no goooooooooooood... then lets us know how bad... ,lets see if anyone here can give some suggestion




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hahayanyan
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2022-11-25 19:25
[#3] 新手求教    
試biwire
phil.ng
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2022-11-25 19:46
[#4] 新手求教    
留意 NAD m33
phil.ng
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2022-11-25 19:51
[#5] 新手求教    
試吓用地氈等吸音隔音物料,會有改善。另外馬蘭士樂器聲比較後的,所以可能真係要校大聲啲先聽到
hahaha1234
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2022-11-25 20:26
[#6] 新手求教    
>>#1...想細細聲聽音樂,但係每次都要開得比較大聲,樂器聲音先至比較清楚...
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up下.

A類擴音機 或 比較 合適, 低輸出(細細聲)時 d失真都係低.

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喇叭 貴d d聲清d有層次d. e.g.B&W都係6"附近, 7千蚊 vs 1萬幾蚊 vs 3幾萬蚊, etc.
cornercube
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2022-11-25 21:37
[#7] 新手求教    
#1

IMHO, you should upgrade your speaker, what is your budget? If you want the speaker in high resolution and rich in details even in low volume, Both Energy and Wharfedale speaker are not decent enough, get a pair of ELAC speaker in used market which suit your budget.........
blackspin
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2022-11-25 22:55
[#8] 新手求教    
謝謝 各位指教!
BBQ83
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2022-11-26 17:39
[#9] 新手求教    
This is what I would do:

1. Add a carpet.

2. Add a proper dac.
BenYC
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2022-11-26 18:22
[#10] 新手求教    
大部分音樂基音在150hz~1.5Khz左右,想改善音量細而可得到音量平衡,這此範圍量要足夠。
as09899
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2022-11-26 19:54
[#11] 新手求教    
喇叭佔極大因素,去聽下監聽喇叭。
沉默的膏蟹
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2022-11-26 21:53
[#12] 新手求教    
Actually, how is the speaker connected to both avr and integrated amp? Manually swap the speaker cable?
BenYC
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2022-11-26 22:25
[#13] 新手求教    
廠商設定的喇叭平衡曲線,須然大多是平坦的。
但覺得好聽的聲音曲線頻率並不是平直的。
因始要喇叭發出好聲音,就要先掌握到好聽的曲線組合是怎樣,再想出方法去調整,才有好既聲音結果。
as09899
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2022-11-26 22:30
[#14] 新手求教    
我想細細聲聽音樂,但係每次都要開得比較大聲,樂器聲音先至比較清楚 <<< 但係這個現象同大部分錄音唔好嘅音樂 冇乜動態 甚至有點壓縮.. 就有這個情況㗎噃

如果佢對喇叭及擴音機嘅配搭... 係可以有動態強弱音都聽得清楚嘅... 咁就係關乎 軟件 or streaming device issue


所以我建議第一步係要用排除法... 看看是否跟本喇叭及擴音機嘅配搭 有沒有問題

工具就是他這部cd機.. Plus a good pop music recording which he normally listen to..

如果喺相對肯定有動態嘅錄音都係差嘅

就係你們每一個人的建議其中一項目

如果用這個相對有動態嘅靚錄音係講得好嘅..

Then focus on steaming chain..


hahayanyan
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2022-11-26 22:35
[#15] 新手求教    
#10

I cannot concurred with this, the 2nd and 3rd harmonic of music would extend much wider than the said range, that is how we hear for the decay, sustain, ambience, inner details.........
blackspin
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2022-11-26 22:46
[#16] 新手求教    
大聲先有野聽一般是因後級唔夠力(或可說喇叭難推),動態唔夠。但看圖用地磚,大聲點應會撞聲。先加地毯把房中的撞聲減低才慢慢攪吧。

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BenYC
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2022-11-26 22:53
[#17] 新手求教    
但係佢話開大聲先至會覺得 清楚

冇提及 細聲唔清楚大聲有炒ear

初步判斷係同動態有關...if listen. To good quality 嘅cd冇問題..

事情簡單好多喇 and such test can be easy



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hahayanyan
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2022-11-26 23:25
[#18] 新手求教    
Change the speaker. Go to listen different speakers with your preferred volume, then find out the one you like.

Some speakers can only perform well with high volume. But some can do a decent job even with low volume.
lfyeung
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2022-11-26 23:27
[#19] 新手求教    
#17

You are right. However, I suspect the original poster was not aware of this problem as he thinks he has bigger problem. Yet, whatever the problem is, get the room more tolerating and accommodating to hifi will only get better. Plus, with the carpet added, his conclusion may change. Just do slowly, one thing at a time. Do the sure thing first. :-)

(Yes... I really dislike tile floor.)
BenYC
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2022-11-26 23:31
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