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[#1] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise     
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looking for troubleshooting suggestion

it is a DC battery power MC stage -Technics SU-300MC

it has loud crackle..static noise

cleaned all the connector and the relay..etc..
different battery...different RCA..etc..still Crackle..static..noise

what else i should look into.......

etc..

recap ?

haha

thxxxxxxxxxxxxxx







最後修改時間: 2021-05-03 19:20:59
hahayanyan
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2021-05-03 19:20
[#2] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise     
有沒有受潮, 發毛.
曾經有一機要拆卸下前面晶體管, 再徹底清潔晶體管腳與腳間地方, 之後正常了.

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2021-05-07 14:12
[#3] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
冇發毛.... 但一定受過潮

Haha... 我買曬啲cap.. Not yet arrive..

等我一陣間試下你講嘅嘢

Thxx

Haha
hahayanyan
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2021-05-07 14:19
[#4] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
Haha

hahayanyan
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2021-05-07 17:49
[#5] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
those are the NPN transistor used..............

i suppose i can test it on the board by B>C, and B >E a by diode test

can i test it on the board?

i jsut did some measurements..and i get some strange result..haha.....all seem goes bad... how come?

haha



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2021-05-07 18:08
[#6] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
Seem some of the transistor seem bad...


If it is a replacement... Which brand etc.. Has better sound..?

Haha

hahayanyan
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2021-05-07 20:49
[#7] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
seem 2 of the SVTM47LP are bad................................ which is used for the MC AMP parts.......... and cannot find replacement..haha
hahayanyan
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2021-05-08 00:06
[#8] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
haha seem no luck for finding the SVTM47

i look at a few DIY design, there are similar design which use those Q1 or Q4 at the input stage

hope there is one good SVTM47 is still good...........so i can measure the HFE and get a better match..haha

haha...also thx to hk888 for some suggestion too..

haha





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hahayanyan
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2021-05-08 11:40
[#9] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
建議用這個,low noise,動圈放大專用。

https://www.littlediode.com/components/2SA991.html

羅密歐
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2021-05-08 12:06
[#10] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
羅密歐.....................thxxxxxxxxxxxx

dummy question... "Does Brand of those Transistor " really matter? ...as i just check..Taobao does not have NEC 2SA991 haha ..where i can get those NEC

low noise.....
High class MC application too.......

haha..............

also looking at

2N3799 Motorola (metal can...look so high class. hahaha.)

https://www.datasheets360.com/part/detail/2n3799/7651678775153697444/


2SA 970 Toshiba

https://www.datasheets360.com/pdf/-2262243666460842475?query=2SA%20970%20Toshiba&pqid=108480905

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hahayanyan
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2021-05-08 12:18
[#11] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
2SA991是非常舊的管,早已停產,因此供應商不會多。如不想跟littlediode買,只可買一推拆機管回來,再挑選合格的來用。
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2021-05-08 12:25
[#12] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
2SA970建議用KTA1268代用,或買拆機管。
羅密歐
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2021-05-08 12:33
[#13] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
羅密歐

happy to buy from anywhere, just nicer if i can get that from taobao..haha seem NO luck for NEC made 2SA991

haha thxxxxxxx

especially from the info u given "low noise..and for high class MC stage"

i love that technics prepre

seem some KEC KTA1268 AROUND.. too......



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hahayanyan
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2021-05-08 12:34
[#14] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
2N3799 Mouser有售。
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2021-05-08 12:35
[#15] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
2N3799 Mouser --made by Central Semiconductor

also taobao have those too.......... sound like a choice too

i suppose that 3799 seem higher noise than the 2SA991 u suggested ..something to learn today..haha


haha thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

another dummy question 可買一推拆機管回來,再挑選合格的來用

if i buy a few 2SA991 拆機管回來.................. what parameter i need to measure in order for " 合格"


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hahayanyan
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2021-05-08 12:37
[#16] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
2SA991本來就是跟2SC1844配對的,見#9。

SVTM47LP可能只是個暫編號,因為網上資料極少,真身後來改了個正式編號2SA991。(純屬我個人猜想)

羅密歐
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2021-05-08 13:05
[#17] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
oh..yes..it sort of mentioned


seem no fancy looking metal can to be used...

and i should try to look for few 2SA991 拆機管...... or from littlediode

thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx thxxxxxxxxxxxx



要學到更細心去睇資料

Thx thx thx 每日 學多一點點係好重要


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hahayanyan
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2021-05-08 13:11
[#18] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
is about trust or no trust..too

haha

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2021-05-08 13:17
[#19] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
#18 國產管價錢低廉,一試亦無妨,反正損失不大。只要是正常的BJT,它無論如何也是會工作的,只是noise未必如原裝真品那麼低。
羅密歐
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2021-05-08 13:25
[#20] Technics SU-300MC - crackle and static noise    
seem at least no harm to trouble shoot...purpose....not for hifi sounding purpose lower S/N etc..is not expected from those China unknown made PNP BJT

as that technics i having now..is not little noise.. it has super loud Crackle POPOPOPOP Noiseeeeeeeeeeeeeee



and i also need to double check some Diode today toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


haha funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


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2021-05-08 13:28
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